Staggs says changes to Fantasyland...

[ChrisM]

jt,

As a sophist in a former life let, allow me to advise you that you're not particularly well suited to practice the art. While I admire your effort and enthusiasm, you appear to lack the creativity, wit, and literary chops to pull it off with any aplomb.

To put it more bluntly, you're being utterly dominated by the plebes in here. It's embarrassing. Please stop.

 

[castevens]

Nor did I say he has. But he has been trying to give hints to something. Obviously, other than Lee's confirmation on the Casey Jr. food cart, nothing has been said because technically, no one CAN say anything. Juan for NDA reasons, and Lee because he won't post info without being completely confident on his sources.

Don't hate... speculate.

Which doesn't mean hate on other's speculations by telling people something isn't happening when you just don't know.

BTW... Scary*

It's easy to say things wont happen, well, because many do not. I have been an architecture junky for a very long time, and I will say that a majority of the buildings that are planned in Boston (even many that are put through and accepted and some that are started!) do not happen. This is also true with Disney. A lot of ideas are thrown around, and some of the crazy rumors that never happened may have even been TRUE (at that point, then changed).

But in the end, many of the planned rides/attractions/details will not come to fruition.

 

[Hakunamatata]

I think if Staggs came out and said "We are moving "X" here, and building "Y" here", someone would ask him where he got his information and tell him he is wrong because they have deduced otherwise. :brick:

 

[jt04]

jt,

As a sophist in a former life let, allow me to advise you that you're not particularly well suited to practice the art. While I admire your effort and enthusiasm, you appear to lack the creativity, wit, and literary chops to pull it off with any aplomb.

To put it more bluntly, you're being utterly dominated by the plebes in here. It's embarrassing. Please stop.

Please.

65 posts vs almost 10,000.

I have seen literally dozens of posters challange me as you have including a certain spirit. I'm still standing. :wave:

 

[jt04]

I think if Staggs came out and said "We are moving "X" here, and building "Y" here", someone would ask him where he got his information and tell him he is wrong because they have deduced otherwise. :brick:

I love the speculation as much as anyone. But there should be some boundries. Staggs should have been more specific. I'm sure he has learned from this. Lasseter must be rolling on the floor laughing himself silly.

Like this :ROFLOL:

 

[IWant2GoNow]

It's easy to say things wont happen, well, because many do not. I have been an architecture junky for a very long time, and I will say that a majority of the buildings that are planned in Boston (even many that are put through and accepted and some that are started!) do not happen. This is also true with Disney. A lot of ideas are thrown around, and some of the crazy rumors that never happened may have even been TRUE (at that point, then changed).

But in the end, many of the planned rides/attractions/details will not come to fruition.

This I know.

*looks at Pop Century Legendary Years*

:lol:

 

[Lee]

65 posts vs almost 10,000.

Ever hear of quality over quantity?:lol:

I have seen literally dozens of posters challange me as you have including a certain spirit. I'm still standing. :wave:

Yes. And many, including that friendly spirit, just got tired of :brick: and gave up.
Can't really blame them...

 

[IWant2GoNow]

Please.

65 posts vs almost 10,000.

I have seen literally dozens of posters challange me as you have including a certain spirit. I'm still standing. :wave:

Now I understand where Grizz was getting the post count misrepresentation from... :lookaroun

 

[jt04]

Not me.


Not me.


Not really.
Staggs began changing the FLE well before we really knew about it here. His recent comments only confirmed what many of us already knew/suspected.
We are actually running a few months behind what is really going on. That's why I'm now playing catch-up. Trying to trade in my older info for some that is more current.

I'm not being honest? Please.
I don't deal in misinformation or spin. I don't promote my opinion as truth.
I deal in information, which leads to facts. If I don't trust what I hear, I don't bring it here. Why? Because I don't want to mislead anyone, or get anyone's hopes up when the information may not be 100% accurate.
That's why I'm playing this FLE kinda close right now. I'm sorting through a mountain of info to get to the truth.


Where do you even get that from? You think Dumbo isn't moving? Why?


As soon as I get a bit more confirmation on a few points I'll begin to pass on what I know.


Nope. I never said that. I said I took a tidbit of information and made an incorrect step in logic. Won't happen again. No more trying to read between the lines.

Dumbo is just me giving my take on how I think the changes will look. Although Tirian or Corrus or someone like that once said it was only moving a very very short distance.

I never accused you as some are trying to make it sound. Challanged yes, accused no.

Gotta go. It has been fun.

 

[Grizzly Hall 71]

Now I understand where Grizz was getting the post count misrepresentation from... :lookaroun

Yes yes yes. That's the exact reason I don't want to go over 1,000. Because I'll turn into someone like jt.

He thinks since he has 9,000 post he can tell everyone what and what isn't coming to the FLE. He's not even a premium member lol.

And I thought I was the most hated person on these boards. Jt has set a new record .

 

[wm49rs]

It's Duck Season!

No, it's Rabbit Season!

Duck Season!

Rabbit Season!





Sorry, couldn't resist...

 

[EmperorMilenko]

Jt , Juan and Lee have put their credibility on the line with saying changes...that aren't "minor" as you have convinced yourself is coming. It could easily be the same, or it could easily be vastly different. You seem to be misguided by the article. You say he says things are barely changing, yet he hints to another attraction being added, which you boldly deny for some reason. I have followed these boards for year and juan and lee have always been quite accurate. What do you have on your track record besides assuming everything you predict is correct. They seem to have much more solid proof than you.:shrug: Just my two cents here.

 

[lebeau]

Yes yes yes. That's the exact reason I don't want to go over 1,000. Because I'll turn into someone like jt.

He thinks since he has 9,000 post he can tell everyone what and what isn't coming to the FLE. He's not even a premium member lol.

And I thought I was the most hated person on these boards. Jt has set a new record .

Word to the wise: don't base anything on anything jt ever says. At best, he keeps things interesting around here. At worst, he's extremely annoying.

He never has any inside info and his opinions reflect his ingnorance on many, many subjects. Yet he will insist to the bitter end that they are fact. He loses most every argument, yet claims victory.

As a rule, I try my best to ignore the guy. But more often than not I get dragged in despite my better judgement.

On a more serious note, I doubt either of you are actually hated.

 

[Grizzly Hall 71]

Word to the wise: don't base anything on anything jt ever says. At best, he keeps things interesting around here. At worst, he's extremely annoying.

He never has any inside info and his opinions reflect his ingnorance on many, many subjects. Yet he will insist to the bitter end that they are fact. He loses most every argument, yet claims victory.

As a rule, I try my best to ignore the guy. But more often than not I get dragged in despite my better judgement.

On a more serious note, I doubt either of you are actually hated.

I see what you mean.

But really you don't think so? Read the intent of this thread:
http://forums.wdwmagic.com/showthread.php?t=617050



And then you tell me lol .

 

[Brian Noble]

Skaggs reacting to the doom and gloom stories of the FLE being gutted he only encouraged and fed the beast.

I think you are giving the various fansites (including our little corner of it here) way WAY too much credit.

Let's be realistic. Almost every single person posting on a Disney fansite is going to be back (often) spending money (a lot) no matter what does or does not happen in FLE. Even if a few decide they've had enough, those few are so vastly outnumbered by the rest of the "fan community", not to mention the huge vast swaths of people who think of WDW as just a nice place to maybe take a vacation someday. And, those "maybe someday" people are the people that the company worries about. Not you. Not me. Not any of the other bloviators and blowhards who are "famous" within the circles of the pixie-dust-addicted, but wouldn't turn a head in downtown anywhere USA if they wore a big sign around their necks with "Hi! My screen name at WDWMagic is ____" on it.

 

[ChrisM]

Please.

65 posts vs almost 10,000.

I have seen literally dozens of posters challange me as you have including a certain spirit. I'm still standing. :wave:

Oh my.

Obstinance coupled with obliviousness is no virtue. Even less so when mixed with a healthy dose of ignorance.

I was under the impression you might actually understand what I was sharing with you in my message. To say I was grossly mistaken would be charitable. Perhaps a different tack will take.

I can only assume you've yet to be completely lettered. Finish your studies, focus intensely on grammar, dialectic, and rhetoric, and return to us a changed, and literately adroit, man.

Please.

 

[lebeau]

I see what you mean.

But really you don't think so? Read the intent of this thread:
http://forums.wdwmagic.com/showthread.php?t=617050



And then you tell me lol .

Oh, I'm not saying you two haven't gotten on anyone's nerves!

Personally, I've argued with both of you. For what it's worth, I found you to be much more reasonable than jt.

(stopping now to prevent further thread drift...)

 

[Grizzly Hall 71]

Oh, I'm not saying you two haven't gotten on anyone's nerves!

Personally, I've argued with both of you. For what it's worth, I found you to be much more reasonable than jt.

(stopping now to prevent further thread drift...)

Why thank you .


But back to the FLE I said it before and I'm saying it again.

ALICE IS COMING. I feel it lol

 

[EmperorMilenko]

Why thank you .


But back to the FLE I said it before and I'm saying it again.

ALICE IS COMING. I feel it lol

I 100% agree. refer back to my page 54 i believe for my idea as in why i think it makes sense and i agree with you...(even if we are far off, we can always hope)

 

[ChrisM]

ALICE IS COMING. I feel it lol

Umm....Errr....Whoa.