ford91exploder
Resident Curmudgeon
Then Disney should advertise it as such not as a blanket discount.
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Spring Discount offer
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Then Disney should advertise it as such not as a blanket discount.
Tuvalu
Premium Member
That's why Disney always uses the terms "up to <discount amount> off" and "select" resorts... Like you said, a way to legally cover themselves.
ford91exploder
Resident Curmudgeon
Oh agree - This kind of stuff is the is how legal legends are made, All you need is a hungry AG/DA to start going after TDO on this kind of stuff.
After all retailers and car dealers found out the hard way they could not do this kind of 'sale' with a single item at the 'promotional price' - 'nailed to the floor' in retail parlance and sell the remainder of the stock at full price.
Unfortunately the discounts are always limited and as DStrawn has said the number of rooms and room types at a given resort are based on the number of unbooked rooms, not the total number of rooms at that resort. If the resort is booking well at full price, there is no need to discount rooms. Think of it as a sale on an article of clothing. A particular dress comes out and many people purchase it at full price. The dresses that are left (assuming any) may not be in your size or the color you wanted. They may be sold out of this dress totally and the sale price doesn't apply. Unfortunately if you book a room at the full price and a discount comes out, there are no guarantees that this discount can be gotten for you because in essence what we are doing is trading in your full price room for a discount package of the same components. If the same components aren't available, then a straight change cannot be done. As a for example, last year when Free Dining was released, there were a number of people that were very disappointed as the Port Orleans resorts Riverside and French Quarter both were not included in this offer. The were included on some PIN Codes but not across the board. If a person wanted the Free Dining offer and staying at the Moderates they had to change resorts entirely to get that discount. I tell my clients, if you are unwilling to be flexible or travel without a discount, let's wait and see what the offer is. If your dates are set and you are willing to travel with or without the discount, let's book it now to be sure you have the room and we can look at discounts as they become available, and make a decision if the discount offer is worth the change, if needed. Marie
That wouldnt surprise me at all, but of course it isnt in the wording of the offer that was given. French Quarter is not one of the usual resorts that is included so I was a bit surprised to see it was not listed as an exclusion. Thanks for the additional info!! Marie@wannabeBelle,
POFQ is not one of the options listed on Disney's spring offer page. When I spoke with a CM about POFQ, she said the resort was not included in this offer.
I think the airlines are actually far worse!!!! Airlines frequently have sales but again not every seat on every flight is the same pricing, even if it is to the same destination and from the same city of origin. At least with the resorts, the full price is the highest price you will pay for that resort/ room category and that will not change unless that room type is sold out completely, in which case the room type is just not available. With the airlines, the pricing on any given seat on any given flight can go up or down and there is no ceiling to that. The seats are the same, the flight is the same etc. Track flights for a period of time ( I do this a lot for my own trips) watch how the pricing fluctuates day to day even hour to hour. It is enough to give anyone a headache!!! I recall something on the news a little while ago about Senator Schumer investigating why even though the price of gas is coming down, why the airlies pricing is staying the same or going higher. Here is an article on it: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/dec/15/charles-schumer-wants-federal-probe-airline-fare/ Marie
Oh and if you do find a flight that is less than the price you paid, if you call the airline to change to the lower flight pricing, in most cases unless you have purchased a certain type of ticket, a change fee is applicable. Even my beloved JetBlue implemented this fee not too long ago. The only airline that I know of that doesn't have a change fee and you can do the change yourself online is Southwest Airlines, who also doesn't charge any luggage fees for up to two checked pieces of luggage per person. I have heard JetBlue is going to start having a tiered ticket system to include a charge for checked luggage but I wasn't able to find out when that would start or what the proposed charges would be. Marie
ford91exploder
Resident Curmudgeon
Other than Chuckie not understanding economics and paying his taxes (while expecting the proles to).
Having BEEN in the HQ side of the airline industry airlines buy fuel futures often 12-36 months in advance with the price being determined THEN so the fuel used TODAY was priced a year to three years ago.
So if the price of fuel goes up the contract owner eats the difference, If it goes down the Airline eats the difference. So today's petroleum prices have no bearing on Airline fuel costs unless they run out and need to buy on the spot market.
Delta for instance BOUGHT the Sunoco refinery outside of Philadelphia so they could get better pricing on JET-A than the futures market provides.
ford91exploder
Resident Curmudgeon
FYI - If you are MOSAIC on JetBlue no change fees apply no matter what the ticket class.
Smart move on Delta's part methinks!!!! Marie
ford91exploder
Resident Curmudgeon
You are a TA and I travel for business so you and I understand these things, Disney does not advertise 'Hurry Book Now - Small Block of Discounted Rooms available', Disney says 'Discounted Rooms up to 30% Discount'
Much different implication to the consumer, who never connects a possible 0% discount which is LEGAL but not RIGHT.
ford91exploder
Resident Curmudgeon
VERY smart move on DL's part!
I agree with you and you are right, people who deal with this stuff a LOT understand it more. Airlines still give me a headache though!!!! I think Disney is a little more straightfoward but it is still limited and in some cases severely so, which is why the KK agents are up at the crack of dawn when a discount is released calling in for our clients to get the best possible availability at the start. Also Disney does change availability on any discount at any time to include rooms that may not have been there before. It is an ever changing pool, so be sure to recheck back. Before I became an agent and was Pam's (@Kingdom Konsultant ) client, I would typically wait for a discount to be dropped, give her my dates (those were usually pretty set) and a list of resorts that I wanted her to see what she could get, in order of preference. She would send me a note afterwards and let me know what resort she got me, but it was kind of fun. I was going to Disney in any event, so it was all good.
In any event we do try to post these discounts so others can take advantage of them and I do see some people were able to save some money. Less Money and More Disney is always a good combination in my book!!! Best of luck to everyone who is still trying!!! Marie
PREMiERdrum
Well-Known Member
It's been a successful campaign thus far for me...
I had clients already booked at the Poly. Under this discount I got $450 lobbed off their total AND got them moved up to Concierge Club level.
I had clients already booked at Riverside who I was able to move up to AKL for less than $100 more than their original package.
I have a new booking into Coronado Springs under this deal that puts them in a Moderate at what they expected to pay for a Value.
So far for me, this has been one of the easier discount programs to navigate.
I had clients already booked at the Poly. Under this discount I got $450 lobbed off their total AND got them moved up to Concierge Club level.
I had clients already booked at Riverside who I was able to move up to AKL for less than $100 more than their original package.
I have a new booking into Coronado Springs under this deal that puts them in a Moderate at what they expected to pay for a Value.
So far for me, this has been one of the easier discount programs to navigate.
draybook
Well-Known Member
I took it with a grain of salt, but during our September trip, the lady that was checking us in said that they were trying to get POFQ off of the Free Dining list. Hearsay from a common CM sure, but she said it's in the works. Can anyone confirm/deny?
/edit: The resort was available for our bounce back offer, but I think she meant for standard promotional offers.
/edit: The resort was available for our bounce back offer, but I think she meant for standard promotional offers.
Dray, on the last General Public offer for Free Dining both Riverside and FQ were excluded. It was included on some PIN code offers however, maybe she meant excluded completely? Marie
Ember
Well-Known Member
This right here! The most important thing that I have learned with Disney is to be flexible, patient, and persistent. Whether it's for a discount on the vacation itself or a fully booked ADR. If you are flexible (not even by weeks or months, but simply able to change by a day or two) patient and persistent enough you can get what you want. This is our third year getting a fantastic deal on our room at the resort we wanted for the week we wanted. This year we wanted to add a night to our pin code discount stay and were told that an extra night wasn't available. So we waited a week and again was told it wasn't available. Yesterday I went on the site and saw there was a room available, called and voila our room is booked at the discount price. The same for ADRs. At first there are none for BOG, but I've been successful at getting the day and time I want every year by waiting and being vigilant about checking the site. I certainly wish there wasn't so much work involved in getting these things accomplished, but it can be done.
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4disneylovers
Well-Known Member
I highly recommend using an agent such as Kingdom Konsultants. Jill from there was very nice and helpful to me. I think I talked to a CM yesterday that was clueless. They didn't even tell me the offer was a max 14 days. Agents have a better working knowledge of this stuff and it is even better if they watch for deals for you.
DisneyJill
Well-Known Member
Hi! French Quarter is not one of the participating resorts. Riverside is, but I believe only the Royal Rooms.