UNCgolf
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They explained the bee keeper. It was a SWORD agent sent through the sewers into Westview, and when he passed through the hex he was changed into something to fit the setting just like everything else that passed through.
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They explained the bee keeper. It was a SWORD agent sent through the sewers into Westview, and when he passed through the hex he was changed into something to fit the setting just like everything else that passed through.
Jedijax719
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Ok, yeah, I guess I probably overlooked that.
As for the other things, I don't think we will see much or any of it. They have too much plot to hash out with everyone else to start brining in witnesses, engineers, and special cameos.
DCLcruiser
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Ralph - agreed
Monica's engineer - Didn't we meet her? It's Major Goodner. Whoever she is, I assume we'll find out more in CM2. There is a theory that she is a Skrull, possibly Talos' daughter who Monica befriended in CM1.
Bee-Keeper - As said, he's just an agent turned into a period appropriate version.
Witness - That I hope they do go into more. Probably Dottie.
Cameo - I hope it's not himself, meaning Vision vs. White Vision. Although, I guess in the end they could merge and bring back Vision outside of the Hex, as we knew him.
doctornick
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Didn't she refer to the engineer as "him" or something like that? I remember there were theories about it being Riri Williams (Ironheart) but that the pronoun thing lead people to rule that out.
Jedijax719
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Yes she very specifically referred to a male.
DCLcruiser
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Ep.5 - No Gender
MONICA: "I know an aerospace engineer who'd be up for this challenge." https://www.imdb.com/title/tt10161318/quotes/?tab=qt&ref_=tt_trv_qu
Ep.6 - Unisex
MONICA: "That’s it. My way back into the Hex will be here in an hour. Just gotta meet my guy over the ridge. Let’s roll." https://scrapsfromtheloft.com/2021/...-6-all-new-halloween-spooktacular-transcript/
Ep.7 - Goodner is who Monica expected, but there is a reference to multiple people
MONICA: "Thank you so much for coming. My mother would appreciate your loyalty."
GOODNER: "She’s not the only one we’re loyal to, Captain. Let me show you what we brought you. … Did we get your specs right?"
WandaVision - Episode 7 - Breaking the Fourth Wall [Transcript] - Scraps from the loft
Read the transcript of "WandaVision" - Episode 7 - Breaking the Fourth Wall. Monica plots her return, Wanda navigates unsettling complications, and Vision forms a new alliance.
scrapsfromtheloft.com
...So, if there are multiple people, again that could be the Skrull up in Fury's space station, SWORD or other MCU characters.
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sedati
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Phicinfan
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Okay this is my personal opinion, but I am starting to wonder.....
If we get the big conclusion we all thought we were getting?
First - we now know WandaVision has been extended for at least 2 more seasons.
Second - the order of movie releases has been changed from when the first concept of WandaVision was started.
What if all we get is some big cliff hanger, that ties into Spiderman 3 and Dr Strange 2?
So maybe we don't find out who is behind pulling strings on Agatha(if anyone is...)
So maybe we don't find out exactly what plan is for Pietro?
So maybe we don't find out what happens to Hex Vision vs. White Vision?
Again, not guarantees were made, just that it ties into the movies.
We know this episode minus the credits and post credit scene(if there is one) will be about 40mins or so.
I personally wouldn't be shocked if we get into some big action scene, and it ends on a cliff hanger, to entice the movie draw even more. Classic TV type move there.
Just me thinking as I wait for Friday
If we get the big conclusion we all thought we were getting?
First - we now know WandaVision has been extended for at least 2 more seasons.
Second - the order of movie releases has been changed from when the first concept of WandaVision was started.
What if all we get is some big cliff hanger, that ties into Spiderman 3 and Dr Strange 2?
So maybe we don't find out who is behind pulling strings on Agatha(if anyone is...)
So maybe we don't find out exactly what plan is for Pietro?
So maybe we don't find out what happens to Hex Vision vs. White Vision?
Again, not guarantees were made, just that it ties into the movies.
We know this episode minus the credits and post credit scene(if there is one) will be about 40mins or so.
I personally wouldn't be shocked if we get into some big action scene, and it ends on a cliff hanger, to entice the movie draw even more. Classic TV type move there.
Just me thinking as I wait for Friday
DCLcruiser
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There's no season 2, 3 or anything beyond Friday's episode.
'WandaVision' Director on Pulling Back the Curtain in Episode 8, Agatha Easter Eggs, and Season 2
Matt Shakman also reveals what it was like using practical effects and the importance of grief to the story being told.
collider.com
"We have no plans for WandaVision Season 2 at all — that could change, of course. It all depends on what's the story. We were very focused on telling this story over nine episodes and hopefully coming to a conclusion that feels satisfying and also surprising" (Matt Shakman - Director).
Phicinfan
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Interesting, that is new news, as I could have sworn I saw a commitment by Marvel for 2nd season for Wanda and Loki and Falcon. I will have to look and see if I can find that linkThere's no season 2, 3 or anything beyond Friday's episode.
'WandaVision' Director on Pulling Back the Curtain in Episode 8, Agatha Easter Eggs, and Season 2
Matt Shakman also reveals what it was like using practical effects and the importance of grief to the story being told.
"We have no plans for WandaVision Season 2 at all — that could change, of course. It all depends on what's the story. We were very focused on telling this story over nine episodes and hopefully coming to a conclusion that feels satisfying and also surprising" (Matt Shakman - Director).
Phicinfan
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Correction here, the one I could get to did say he isn't saying there won't be a season 2 but it will be a while as Elizabeth Olsen will be tied up in movies like Dr. Strange 2
DCLcruiser
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I think you are correct about that assumption.
Jedijax719
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Any second season they may have for Wandavision won't depend on how Wandavision ends. It will depend on what happens in both Spiderman NWH and Doctor Strange MOM since those will feature Wanda. So the plot will be completely different. It won't really be Wandavision as we've known it this season.
This article is pretty telling. I wonder which fan theories he's referring to.
tvline.com
WandaVision Director Weighs In on Fan Theories: There Are ‘Some Who Will Feel Very Smart’ After the Finale
'WandaVision' director Matt Shakman opens up about Wanda's trauma and fan theories surrounding the Disney+ series' finale.
tvline.com
MarvelCharacterNerd
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I don't expect a WandaVision season 2 because I don't expect Vision to survive season 1. Though with the White Vision intro... who knows?
Still thinking Wiccan and Speed will survive, however, probably due to a sacrifice by their dad (and mom letting him sacrifice himself again but maybe getting more closure out of it this time by having the kids survive). But expect Wiccan and Speed will be sent somewhere else to be raised (keeping them out of the films until they 'grow up') - maybe with Agatha?
Then again, maybe Wanda sacrifices the kids to save Vision and then goes cray and opens up the multiverse to try to save/find them?
So many possibilities!!!
Still thinking Wiccan and Speed will survive, however, probably due to a sacrifice by their dad (and mom letting him sacrifice himself again but maybe getting more closure out of it this time by having the kids survive). But expect Wiccan and Speed will be sent somewhere else to be raised (keeping them out of the films until they 'grow up') - maybe with Agatha?
Then again, maybe Wanda sacrifices the kids to save Vision and then goes cray and opens up the multiverse to try to save/find them?
So many possibilities!!!
Disney Irish
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So some rumors online have surfaced that the big bad won't actually be introduced in Ep9, but rather hinted at in Ep9 for the reveal in Dr Strange 2 (and maybe Spider-Man). And that big bad being Nightmare and not Mephisto.
So while I find this rumor to be ok, and hope something like this happens. I still rather have Mephisto. And for those that say they can't for China and other reason, I just realized Marvel has already had films with Mephisto in it released in China, namely Ghost Rider.
And bringing up Ghost Rider, some rumors online have floated that Marvel might bring the character into the MCU played by Nicolas Cage again. And if so they would likely have to have Mephisto in the MCU as the two characters are tied together. So whether he is brought in via WandaVision Ep9 or not, Mephisto looks to be coming to the MCU at some point in the future.
So while I find this rumor to be ok, and hope something like this happens. I still rather have Mephisto. And for those that say they can't for China and other reason, I just realized Marvel has already had films with Mephisto in it released in China, namely Ghost Rider.
And bringing up Ghost Rider, some rumors online have floated that Marvel might bring the character into the MCU played by Nicolas Cage again. And if so they would likely have to have Mephisto in the MCU as the two characters are tied together. So whether he is brought in via WandaVision Ep9 or not, Mephisto looks to be coming to the MCU at some point in the future.
Jedijax719
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Nightmare no longer makes sense. We're already been told that Agatha was responsible for prodding Wanda a long and that Wanda created everything in Westview. If Nightmare (or anyone for that matter) is involved, it will be an afterthought and forced (like hamfisting Palpatine into TROS-although I still liked that). There really isn't room for Nightmare so, if this rumor came from the same source as the last few rumors, we know it to be 100% false.
What would be interesting as a twist is if Agatha does end up being good after all. She only temporarily used this Westview anomaly to help Wanda achieve her full potential in order to protect the world. And, being actually good, Agatha fully intended to turn Westview back to its former self, helping the loved ones of those trapped, and reuniting them.ALL she ever wanted was to tap into Wanda's powers for the sake of the world. She just had to use crude methods because, well, she is a witch by nature.
What would be interesting as a twist is if Agatha does end up being good after all. She only temporarily used this Westview anomaly to help Wanda achieve her full potential in order to protect the world. And, being actually good, Agatha fully intended to turn Westview back to its former self, helping the loved ones of those trapped, and reuniting them.ALL she ever wanted was to tap into Wanda's powers for the sake of the world. She just had to use crude methods because, well, she is a witch by nature.
Phicinfan
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All legit ideas. Maybe saving her kids is how she causes the multi-verse to explode. Maybe she finds out if the Hex is ended she loses them, so she rips open the multiverse and sends them there with Agatha? Or Vision?
Then she has to work with Dr. Strange to fix what issues it causes, while actually trying to find/protect the life of her kids?
Should be fun to see what happens.