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SPOILERS: WandaVision Discussion / Reactions to Most Recent Episodes

1HAPPYGHOSTHOST

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When it comes to Fietro, Agatha says that he was Wanda's doing, but Agatha used a "crystalline? crystalloon?" illusion so that he'd be her eyes and ears (which explains how he knew it was all fake). [The Italian subtitles is just "an illusion spell."]

But that doesn't explain why Wanda would create a Fox's X-Man Pietro.

More mysteries.
Incorrect. It clearly indicates Agatha is behind him to get info from Wanda. Not that Wanda created him and she took over him. She indicates she was going to use the real Pietro's body but it was far away and full of bullet holes. so she made one up that is not as good but Wanda desperately wanted to believe it was him so she accepted he looked different. That was all Agatha
 

Jedijax719

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The finale is supposedly going to be 50 minutes INCLUDING credits. So it will probably be around 45 minutes-only slightly longer than the others at best.

There's a LOT to cover in 45 minutes. I suspect there will be quite a bit left on the cutting room floor, aka, was used as misdirects.
*Ralph is probably going to just have been a name Agnes used to make her seem like she had a family, despite nobody every having seen him.
*Monica's engineer friend MIGHT be shown in a credit scene but may not even factor in at all. Probably something that changed at the last minute but they forgot to edit it out of conversation.
*Bee-keeper was nothing most likely
*Jimmy's missing witness was probably just a way to let the audience know that NOBODY has any recollection of Westview due to Wanda/Agnes' spell.
*Cameo? Again, probably credit scene at most.
*Pietro was already explained probably as much as he is going to be.

Did I forget anything?
 

Bairstow

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The same way Darci knew about the events of Wakanda even though no one was there to see it but the Avengers themselves....plot convenience.
I think it can be assumed that the general public was made aware of what happened with Thanos et. all sometime after the snap. Maybe Captain America and the rest of the Avengers held a press conference with the UN or something.

It would be really annoying to have to write for this universe if one of your conceits is that not only no one but the main characters noticed that half of the world died and came back a couple years ago, but no one's even curious about why that is.

I mean, you already have the general Marvel Universe public now fully aware of the existence of gods, aliens, and magic, so why not?
 

Jedijax719

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I think it can be assumed that the general public was made aware of what happened with Thanos et. all sometime after the snap. Maybe Captain America and the rest of the Avengers held a press conference with the UN or something.

It would be really annoying to have to write for this universe if one of your conceits is that not only no one but the main characters noticed that half of the world died and came back a couple years ago, but no one's even curious about why that is.

I mean, you already have the general Marvel Universe public now fully aware of the existence of gods, aliens, and magic, so why not?
What must've been even worse is having half the world come back suddenly and not having the resources to support them. One would think that the amount of resources would be cut to half just from production alone. The strain on society would be immense.
 

Bairstow

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What must've been even worse is having half the world come back suddenly and not having the resources to support them. One would think that the amount of resources would be cut to half just from production alone. The strain on society would be immense.
Yeah, best not to think about it.
Just do a joke about how the kids who were a few years behind Spiderman are now in his grade and move on.
 

UNCgolf

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The finale is supposedly going to be 50 minutes INCLUDING credits. So it will probably be around 45 minutes-only slightly longer than the others at best.

There's a LOT to cover in 45 minutes. I suspect there will be quite a bit left on the cutting room floor, aka, was used as misdirects.
*Ralph is probably going to just have been a name Agnes used to make her seem like she had a family, despite nobody every having seen him.
*Monica's engineer friend MIGHT be shown in a credit scene but may not even factor in at all. Probably something that changed at the last minute but they forgot to edit it out of conversation.
*Bee-keeper was nothing most likely
*Jimmy's missing witness was probably just a way to let the audience know that NOBODY has any recollection of Westview due to Wanda/Agnes' spell.
*Cameo? Again, probably credit scene at most.
*Pietro was already explained probably as much as he is going to be.

Did I forget anything?

They explained the bee keeper. It was a SWORD agent sent through the sewers into Westview, and when he passed through the hex he was changed into something to fit the setting just like everything else that passed through.
 

Jedijax719

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They explained the bee keeper. It was a SWORD agent sent through the sewers into Westview, and when he passed through the hex he was changed into something to fit the setting just like everything else that passed through.
Ok, yeah, I guess I probably overlooked that.

As for the other things, I don't think we will see much or any of it. They have too much plot to hash out with everyone else to start brining in witnesses, engineers, and special cameos.
 

DCLcruiser

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The finale is supposedly going to be 50 minutes INCLUDING credits. So it will probably be around 45 minutes-only slightly longer than the others at best.

There's a LOT to cover in 45 minutes. I suspect there will be quite a bit left on the cutting room floor, aka, was used as misdirects.
*Ralph is probably going to just have been a name Agnes used to make her seem like she had a family, despite nobody every having seen him.
*Monica's engineer friend MIGHT be shown in a credit scene but may not even factor in at all. Probably something that changed at the last minute but they forgot to edit it out of conversation.
*Bee-keeper was nothing most likely
*Jimmy's missing witness was probably just a way to let the audience know that NOBODY has any recollection of Westview due to Wanda/Agnes' spell.
*Cameo? Again, probably credit scene at most.
*Pietro was already explained probably as much as he is going to be.

Did I forget anything?
Ralph - agreed

Monica's engineer - Didn't we meet her? It's Major Goodner. Whoever she is, I assume we'll find out more in CM2. There is a theory that she is a Skrull, possibly Talos' daughter who Monica befriended in CM1.

Bee-Keeper - As said, he's just an agent turned into a period appropriate version.

Witness - That I hope they do go into more. Probably Dottie.

Cameo - I hope it's not himself, meaning Vision vs. White Vision. Although, I guess in the end they could merge and bring back Vision outside of the Hex, as we knew him.
 

doctornick

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Monica's engineer - Didn't we meet her? It's Major Goodner. Whoever she is, I assume we'll find out more in CM2. There is a theory that she is a Skrull, possibly Talos' daughter who Monica befriended in CM1.

Didn't she refer to the engineer as "him" or something like that? I remember there were theories about it being Riri Williams (Ironheart) but that the pronoun thing lead people to rule that out.
 

DCLcruiser

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Yes she very specifically referred to a male.
Didn't she refer to the engineer as "him" or something like that? I remember there were theories about it being Riri Williams (Ironheart) but that the pronoun thing lead people to rule that out.
Ep.5 - No Gender
MONICA: "I know an aerospace engineer who'd be up for this challenge." https://www.imdb.com/title/tt10161318/quotes/?tab=qt&ref_=tt_trv_qu

Ep.6 - Unisex
MONICA: "That’s it. My way back into the Hex will be here in an hour. Just gotta meet my guy over the ridge. Let’s roll." https://scrapsfromtheloft.com/2021/...-6-all-new-halloween-spooktacular-transcript/

Ep.7 - Goodner is who Monica expected, but there is a reference to multiple people
MONICA: "Thank you so much for coming. My mother would appreciate your loyalty."
GOODNER: "She’s not the only one we’re loyal to, Captain. Let me show you what we brought you. … Did we get your specs right?"

...So, if there are multiple people, again that could be the Skrull up in Fury's space station, SWORD or other MCU characters.
 
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sedati

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I think it can be assumed that the general public was made aware of what happened with Thanos et. all sometime after the snap. Maybe Captain America and the rest of the Avengers held a press conference with the UN or something.

It would be really annoying to have to write for this universe if one of your conceits is that not only no one but the main characters noticed that half of the world died and came back a couple years ago, but no one's even curious about why that is.

I mean, you already have the general Marvel Universe public now fully aware of the existence of gods, aliens, and magic, so why not?
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Phicinfan

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Okay this is my personal opinion, but I am starting to wonder.....

If we get the big conclusion we all thought we were getting?
First - we now know WandaVision has been extended for at least 2 more seasons.
Second - the order of movie releases has been changed from when the first concept of WandaVision was started.

What if all we get is some big cliff hanger, that ties into Spiderman 3 and Dr Strange 2?
So maybe we don't find out who is behind pulling strings on Agatha(if anyone is...)
So maybe we don't find out exactly what plan is for Pietro?
So maybe we don't find out what happens to Hex Vision vs. White Vision?

Again, not guarantees were made, just that it ties into the movies.

We know this episode minus the credits and post credit scene(if there is one) will be about 40mins or so.
I personally wouldn't be shocked if we get into some big action scene, and it ends on a cliff hanger, to entice the movie draw even more. Classic TV type move there.

Just me thinking as I wait for Friday
 

DCLcruiser

Well-Known Member
Okay this is my personal opinion, but I am starting to wonder.....

If we get the big conclusion we all thought we were getting?
First - we now know WandaVision has been extended for at least 2 more seasons.
Second - the order of movie releases has been changed from when the first concept of WandaVision was started.

What if all we get is some big cliff hanger, that ties into Spiderman 3 and Dr Strange 2?
So maybe we don't find out who is behind pulling strings on Agatha(if anyone is...)
So maybe we don't find out exactly what plan is for Pietro?
So maybe we don't find out what happens to Hex Vision vs. White Vision?

Again, not guarantees were made, just that it ties into the movies.

We know this episode minus the credits and post credit scene(if there is one) will be about 40mins or so.
I personally wouldn't be shocked if we get into some big action scene, and it ends on a cliff hanger, to entice the movie draw even more. Classic TV type move there.

Just me thinking as I wait for Friday
There's no season 2, 3 or anything beyond Friday's episode.


"We have no plans for WandaVision Season 2 at all — that could change, of course. It all depends on what's the story. We were very focused on telling this story over nine episodes and hopefully coming to a conclusion that feels satisfying and also surprising" (Matt Shakman - Director).
 

Phicinfan

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There's no season 2, 3 or anything beyond Friday's episode.


"We have no plans for WandaVision Season 2 at all — that could change, of course. It all depends on what's the story. We were very focused on telling this story over nine episodes and hopefully coming to a conclusion that feels satisfying and also surprising" (Matt Shakman - Director).
Interesting, that is new news, as I could have sworn I saw a commitment by Marvel for 2nd season for Wanda and Loki and Falcon. I will have to look and see if I can find that link
 

Phicinfan

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okay due to blocks at work I can't post the quotes. But there are Feige Quotes 4-5 days ago that second season are being planned for most of the D+ series including WandaVision
 

Phicinfan

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okay due to blocks at work I can't post the quotes. But there are Feige Quotes 4-5 days ago that second season are being planned for most of the D+ series including WandaVision
Correction here, the one I could get to did say he isn't saying there won't be a season 2 but it will be a while as Elizabeth Olsen will be tied up in movies like Dr. Strange 2
 

Jedijax719

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Any second season they may have for Wandavision won't depend on how Wandavision ends. It will depend on what happens in both Spiderman NWH and Doctor Strange MOM since those will feature Wanda. So the plot will be completely different. It won't really be Wandavision as we've known it this season.
 

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