SPOILERS: Snow White live action (March 21, 2025 release)

[Sirwalterraleigh]

This is such an absurd complaint given that the film features a brand-new love duet sung by Zegler and Burnap.

I don’t love the Mary Sue label…but if it was ever gonna fit…this might be it

 

[Farerb]

An interesting thing about the remake is that they gave the "not a prince" the plotline of Prince Phillip being captured by Maleficent (Evil Queen) and then gets free to save Aurora (Snow White). The truth is that Walt wanted to do it originally in Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs but it was dropped because of limitations. It was later revived for Sleeping Beauty.

 

[LittleBuford]

Honestly I'm surprised seeing some say it was better than they expected. My thoughts on why it's so low in its reviews is that the opposite would be true.

I went in with very low expectations, which probably helped. The relationship between Snow White and Jonathan was much more prominent than I thought it would be, and that did much to endear the film to me as an old romantic who misses the days of classic Disney love stories.

 

[Disstevefan1]

Isn’t that what actors do? Pretend to be someone else that may or may not be more likable?

Actors say its easiest to act the opposite of who they actually are.

 

[LSLS]

I went in with very low expectations, which probably helped. The relationship between Snow White and Jonathan was much more prominent than I thought it would be, and that did much to endear the film to me as an old romantic who misses the days of classic Disney love stories.

Could be. So, why did you go in with low expectations? Was it because of the stuff before (NO, not what the actress said, but the rumor of all the reshoots, the leaked images, etc.), or was it the trailer?

 

[Disstevefan1]

Snow back on top.

We have a long way to go. Disney has the power to keep their movies in the theaters for many, many weeks and money from whatever movie will continue to trickle in....

 

[LittleBuford]

Could be. So, why did you go in with low expectations? Was it because of the stuff before (NO, not what the actress said, but the rumor of all the reshoots, the leaked images, etc.), or was it the trailer?

None of that made me especially hopeful, but the scathing reviews are what really lowered my expectations.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Snow back on top.
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We have a long way to go. Disney has the power to keep their movies in the theaters for many, many weeks and money from whatever movie will continue to trickle in....

They have lost a lot of their ability to have people mindlessly book tickets because it’s in the theater…However.

I just found out my daughter saw this when we were in Orlando last week. She’s a tough critic and said it was “ok”

That translates to it being of decent quality.

So why did it bounce on the pavement like a deflated basketball?

No…not the rage network…

It just was never wanted for a minute…and Disneys clout is currently on the box office ebb right now.

 

[LSLS]

None of that made me especially hopeful, but the scathing reviews are what really lowered my expectations.

Interesting. I wonder if a lot of people see those reviews (and other associated things), or if it's possible a lot of people just saw a Snow White movie and thought the trailer looked good, and came out thinking it's worse than they expected. I guess a big thing I don't know is how much a common person looks at those things. I know I hate everything about movie critic reviews (to the point if I ever looked at them, I could be more likely to go if they didn't like it), but I'm not sure how much of an outlier I am. There must be business out there for so many critics to have jobs. I just can't imagine the review bombing thing happens enough to make THIS big an impact.

I wonder if a part of this not doing well is just that Snow White is not that popular of a franchise, especially for the current movie going crowd. History and importance of the movie aside, you don't have the 40-50 year old parents all excited to relive a movie from their past with their children here.

Like I said before, I hate the movie remakes like this one/Beauty and the Beast/Little Mermaid where they are very similar to the original as opposed to telling from a different perspective, but I do find it interesting to see how they do. Mermaid was the first that really caught me off guard (not sure if the thread is still around, but while I had no desire to see it, I thought the bare minimum was $1 billion), and while I didn't expect this to do well, I still expected $300 and maybe even $400 million if it got a really good word of mouth, and it's looking like it could be well under that.

 

[Disstevefan1]

They have lost a lot of their ability to have people mindlessly book tickets because it’s in the theater…However.

I just found out my daughter saw this when we were in Orlando last week. She’s a tough critic and said it was “ok”

That translates to it being of decent quality.

So why did it bounce on the pavement like a deflated basketball?

No…not the rage network…

It just was never wanted for a minute…and Disneys clout is currently on the box office ehh right now.

Snow should not have been made. They should have stayed away from Snow White. Disney probably has 100's of stories on the shelf to use.

Snow will lose money mostly because of the ridiculous money they spend to get a movie (not just this one) out the door and in theaters.

Because Disney has the power to keep their movies in many theaters for a very very long time, money will trickle in from random walk up theater goers, therefore Snow will probably not be the biggest loser in Disney's history.

 

[Tony the Tigger]

To assume (as you seem to be) that people are staying away from this film because of its multiethnic casting seems quite the stretch. If audiences are so opposed to previously all-white IPs being made more diverse, they would boycotted Wicked too.

All of the leads in Snow White—Zegler, Gadot, Burnap, and the CGI dwarfs—remain, well, white.

As you are likely aware, friend, I completely disagree here.

As for Wicked, Cynthia has become a huge target of ridicule, it’s awful. Any posts about anything she is doing are met with hate. I think the difference is the target audience were enthusiastic about the casting, and were big enough a group to support the film (often seeing it multiple times.) Wicked could have done better at the box office, IMO.

The lead in Snow White was seen as a Latina, correctly or otherwise (as she is also part Polish) and as you well know, the backlash against her was immediate upon announcement of her casting, for that reason alone.

 

[Tony the Tigger]

Honestly I'm surprised seeing some say it was better than they expected. My thoughts on why it's so low in it's reviews is that the opposite would be true.

I think my expectations were lowered in some ways, especially by the look of the dwarfs. I am very bugged by cgi in general, and I think you either get used to it early in the film or you don’t.

In this case, I did with some, and not others. I thought Grumpy looked extra odd, while Dopey looked better than all the others (which made sense because he had a bigger part.) Doc looked good. The rest were meh.

My high expectations were of Rachel singing and becoming Snow White - and those were met.

I didn’t know where the story would go, but found it satisfying, very typical Disney fare.

And honestly, as a 53 year old man, I probably never would have gone to the theater but for the contrived controversies.

Bottom line: expectations exceeded.

 

[Chi84]

They couldn't even keep all of the songs the same. Because Disney didn't want to have her sing about love and pining for the Prince. The new unlikable Mary Sues have to be leaders with throwaway males. She probably was going to wake up another way, before the reshoots too.

Zegler acted like he was a stalker in the original. Even though out of all the princes he's probably in the film the least.

Don’t be afraid - no one wants to throw you away. Oh wait . . .

 

[LittleBuford]

As you are likely aware, friend, I completely disagree here.

As for Wicked, Cynthia has become a huge target of ridicule, it’s awful. Any posts about anything she is doing are met with hate. I think the difference is the target audience were enthusiastic about the casting, and were big enough a group to support the film (often seeing it multiple times.) Wicked could have done better at the box office, IMO.

The lead in Snow White was seen as a Latina, correctly or otherwise (as she is also part Polish) and as you well know, the backlash against her was immediate upon announcement of her casting, for that reason alone.

I’m not saying actors of colour don’t receive backlash; I’m saying that I don’t think that such backlash typically causes a film to flop.

 

[LittleBuford]

Interesting. I wonder if a lot of people see those reviews (and other associated things), or if it's possible a lot of people just saw a Snow White movie and thought the trailer looked good, and came out thinking it's worse than they expected. I guess a big thing I don't know is how much a common person looks at those things. I know I hate everything about movie critic reviews (to the point if I ever looked at them, I could be more likely to go if they didn't like it), but I'm not sure how much of an outlier I am. There must be business out there for so many critics to have jobs. I just can't imagine the review bombing thing happens enough to make THIS big an impact.

I wonder if a part of this not doing well is just that Snow White is not that popular of a franchise, especially for the current movie going crowd. History and importance of the movie aside, you don't have the 40-50 year old parents all excited to relive a movie from their past with their children here.

Like I said before, I hate the movie remakes like this one/Beauty and the Beast/Little Mermaid where they are very similar to the original as opposed to telling from a different perspective, but I do find it interesting to see how they do. Mermaid was the first that really caught me off guard (not sure if the thread is still around, but while I had no desire to see it, I thought the bare minimum was $1 billion), and while I didn't expect this to do well, I still expected $300 and maybe even $400 million if it got a really good word of mouth, and it's looking like it could be well under that.

I should make clear that I didn’t actually read any of the reviews (I was avoiding spoilers); I just knew they skewed very negative, which led me not to expect much of the film.

If you dislike remakes that hew really closely to the originals (I tend to agree), you may find aspects of Snow White to your liking, since it diverges quite a bit from the 1937 film. It’s more a reimagining than a remake.

 

[Agent H]

I don’t want to hear the same opinions. I want to hear informed opinions.

I’ve been though this before. More then any other poster on this board they won’t listen to reason.

 

[LittleBuford]

I’ve been though this before. More then any other poster on this board they won’t listen to reason.

I should know better than to waste my time. Responding to such posts only contributes to the derailment of the thread.

 

[Chi84]

I don’t love the Mary Sue label…but if it was ever gonna fit…this might be it

Why do you say that? I’m not getting that idea from the others who have seen the film.

They had to give her something more to do. A third of her original role could have been replaced with a Roomba and a Bosch dishwasher.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Why do you say that? I’m not getting that idea from the others who have seen the film.

They had to give her something more to do. A third of her original role could have been replaced with a Roomba and a Bosch dishwasher.

Just an impression from limited exposure

Not at all scientific…but when it comes to impressions that rarely matters

 

[Agent H]

I should know better than to waste my time. Responding to such posts only contributes to the derailment of the thread.

Hey don’t be too hard on yourself. this whole sites a time waster!