SPOILERS: Snow White live action (March 21, 2025 release)

[Ayla]

Didn’t you spend some time at WDW the past year…. As long as you are worried about people spending money on Disney products

Yes, multiple times. He also bought an AP.

 

[Indy_UK]

If Disney released Pinocchio or Peter & Wendy to theaters, would they have gotten all of this hate?

They were just bad films and didn’t have difficult people involved

 

[erasure fan1]

but apart from a handful of reviews from those who’ve actually seen it, the discussion in this thread is pretty much identical to what is already taking place in the other thread, with a slightly different cast of characters.

But doesn't that tell you anything? Take away the stuff you object to, and what's left? Not much. Im not seeing a lot of discussion with the people who have seen it. And just because people are talking about one thing, doesn't mean that you can't talk about story, plot... Should that other stuff be talked about in the general discussion? Probably. But that won't change the the fact the people who did see it, aren't talking about it.

 

[LittleBuford]

But doesn't that tell you anything? Take away the stuff you object to, and what's left? Not much. Im not seeing a lot of discussion with the people who have seen it. And just because people are talking about one thing, doesn't mean that you can't talk about story, plot... Should that other stuff be talked about in the general discussion? Probably. But that won't change the the fact the people who did see it, aren't talking about it.

I would much rather have a thread consisting of a handful of reviews than the ten-page mess we’ve ended up with. It’s just more of the same.

I don’t think most of the people who’ve contributed to this thread have seen the film, so the inference you draw in your last sentence doesn’t seem valid to me.

 

[Ghost93]

It should be clear from what I’ve written that this film is the furthest thing from how some have characterised it in the forum. There is no propaganda, there is no communism. This is most definitely a family film in the classic mould—not necessarily the best thing in terms of quality, but “safe”, traditional entertainment that is very unlikely to raise any parental hackles. The only thing I found remotely questionable from a child-friendly perspective was the inclusion of the words “where the sun don’t shine” in one of the songs. But other than that, this is one of the most traditional films Disney has come out with in years, complete with love’s kiss waking up a dead princess! It’s ironic, then, that those most loudly denouncing it as woke propaganda are the very people who would most approve of it were they actually to see it.

I agree that the movie is pretty traditional, despite the reputation it has on the Internet. I haven't commented much on this particular Snow White thread because it's clear that the vast majority of the people complaining about the movie haven't seen it and I'm not going to waste time arguing with people's imagined grievances about what they think is in the movie. It's exhausting.

 

[Agent H]

I agree that the movie is pretty traditional, despite the reputation it has on the Internet. I haven't commented much on this particular Snow White thread because it's clear that the vast majority of the people complaining about the movie haven't seen it and I'm not going to waste time arguing with people's imagined grievances about what they think is in the movie. It's exhausting.

Might as well not come back to this thread. I don’t foresee it getting better.

 

[erasure fan1]

I don’t think most of the people who’ve contributed to this thread have seen the film, so the inference you draw in your last sentence doesn’t seem valid to me.

How's that? Are the people who have seen it talking about it? Or are they obsessed with arguing with people they say haven't seen it? Or has no one actually seen it? I said the people who have seen aren't talking about it. How's that not seem valid?

 

[Chi84]

How's that? Are the people who have seen it talking about it? Or are they obsessed with arguing with people they say haven't seen it? Or has no one actually seen it? I said the people who have seen aren't talking about it. How's that not seem valid?

I’m going to see the film in a few weeks on a Disney ship so I check in on this “spoilers” thread to find out what people who have seen the film think of it.

Instead, I see posts like yours.

 

[LittleBuford]

The [bandits] were first made known to us through those infamous production photos. Based on what I can cobble together from the information we have at our disposal, these bandits were originally meant to be a parallel group to (and not a replacement for) Snow White’s companions, who were conceived of as magical beings of some sort.

I wrote this based on a poor recollection of the information I had in mind:

Post in thread 'Live-Action ‘Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs’'

Aug 1, 2023

Who screened it? It makes a difference.

Don't knows. But here's the further information regarding the early screening of the film. That's included the budget as well.

• wtyy21

• 

I somehow misremembered these (unverified and unverifiable) screening reactions as mentioning some magical (non-dwarf) beings. Perhaps I was thinking of something else, or just imagining things!

At any rate, while looking through the (now-locked) main Snow White thread, I found reference to something I'd forgotten: Martin Klebba revealed back in 2022 that he'd be playing Grumpy:

Martin Klebba Casually Confirms Role In Disney’s Live Action ‘Snow White’

Nearly two years ago we reported on a rumor about Pirates of the Caribbean star Martin Klebba playing a key role in Disney’s live action ‘Snow White’ remake. Today, not only do we…

thedisinsider.com

This means that Snow White was always going to have a distinct group of companions, separate from Jonathan's bandits, and that one of those companions was always going to be a character called Grumpy. In the video, Klebba says, "Just got done filming Snow White"—the choice of word ("filming" rather than "voicing") seems significant to me.

All of this raises a number of questions: Was Klebba's role originally meant to be live-action? If so, was he starring alongside the same six actors whose voices we now hear alongside his, meaning that the characters were originally going to be portrayed by six actors of "average" height alongside one actor (Klebba) with dwarfism? This would have been an interesting approach to take, though I'm not sure how it would have gone down.

All of this is very speculative, of course. But I think we can be certain of the fact that Snow White was always going to have her own non-bandit companions (bearing the same names as the dwarfs of the original film), even if they've been modified in appearance along the way.

 

[Disstevefan1]

I wrote this based on a poor recollection of the information I had in mind:

Post in thread 'Live-Action ‘Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs’'

Aug 1, 2023

Who screened it? It makes a difference.

Don't knows. But here's the further information regarding the early screening of the film. That's included the budget as well.

• wtyy21

• 

I somehow misremembered these (unverified and unverifiable) screening reactions as mentioning some magical (non-dwarf) beings. Perhaps I was thinking of something else, or just imagining things!

At any rate, while looking through the (now-locked) main Snow White thread, I found reference to something I'd forgotten: Martin Klebba revealed back in 2022 that he'd be playing Grumpy:

Martin Klebba Casually Confirms Role In Disney’s Live Action ‘Snow White’

Nearly two years ago we reported on a rumor about Pirates of the Caribbean star Martin Klebba playing a key role in Disney’s live action ‘Snow White’ remake. Today, not only do we…

thedisinsider.com

This means that Snow White was always going to have a distinct group of companions, separate from Jonathan's bandits, and that one of those companions was always going to be a character called Grumpy. In the video, Klebba says, "Just got done filming Snow White"—the choice of word ("filming" rather than "voicing") seems significant to me.

All of this raises a number of questions: Was Klebba's role originally meant to be live-action? If so, was he starring alongside the same six actors whose voices we now hear alongside his, meaning that the characters were originally going to be portrayed by six actors of "average" height alongside one actor (Klebba) with dwarfism? This would have been an interesting approach to take, though I'm not sure how it would have gone down.

All of this is very speculative, of course. But I think we can be certain of the fact that Snow White was always going to have her own non-bandit companions (bearing the same names as the dwarfs of the original film), even if they've been modified in appearance along the way.

Budget estimate 140 to 160, now that made me chuckle

 

[doctornick]

I agree that the movie is pretty traditional, despite the reputation it has on the Internet. I haven't commented much on this particular Snow White thread because it's clear that the vast majority of the people complaining about the movie haven't seen it and I'm not going to waste time arguing with people's imagined grievances about what they think is in the movie. It's exhausting.

I would recommend just talking about whatever aspect of the film you want to. People who are interested in that discussion will engage and hopefully you can have a fulfilling conversation. I absolutely get that it is frustrating to go to a "spoiler" thread and see the same (non spoiler) arguments but the only way to improve that is to simply proceed with insightful discussion as best you can; complaining about the content of this thread doesn't solve anything. Just IMHO.

 

[doctornick]

I wrote this based on a poor recollection of the information I had in mind:

Post in thread 'Live-Action ‘Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs’'

Aug 1, 2023

Who screened it? It makes a difference.

Don't knows. But here's the further information regarding the early screening of the film. That's included the budget as well.

• wtyy21

• 

I somehow misremembered these (unverified and unverifiable) screening reactions as mentioning some magical (non-dwarf) beings. Perhaps I was thinking of something else, or just imagining things!

At any rate, while looking through the (now-locked) main Snow White thread, I found reference to something I'd forgotten: Martin Klebba revealed back in 2022 that he'd be playing Grumpy:

Martin Klebba Casually Confirms Role In Disney’s Live Action ‘Snow White’

Nearly two years ago we reported on a rumor about Pirates of the Caribbean star Martin Klebba playing a key role in Disney’s live action ‘Snow White’ remake. Today, not only do we…

thedisinsider.com

This means that Snow White was always going to have a distinct group of companions, separate from Jonathan's bandits, and that one of those companions was always going to be a character called Grumpy. In the video, Klebba says, "Just got done filming Snow White"—the choice of word ("filming" rather than "voicing") seems significant to me.

All of this raises a number of questions: Was Klebba's role originally meant to be live-action? If so, was he starring alongside the same six actors whose voices we now hear alongside his, meaning that the characters were originally going to be portrayed by six actors of "average" height alongside one actor (Klebba) with dwarfism? This would have been an interesting approach to take, though I'm not sure how it would have gone down.

All of this is very speculative, of course. But I think we can be certain of the fact that Snow White was always going to have her own non-bandit companions (bearing the same names as the dwarfs of the original film), even if they've been modified in appearance along the way.

(I haven't seen the film)

There was a little person in the "leaked" bandit photo. Was that person Klebba (I don't think so but conceivably it could have been a stunt performer)? Does such a little person appear in the final version of the film as part of the bandits?

I ask because this will give some insight as to whether the bandits were originally complete substitutes for the dwarfs and would have each had personalities corresponding to the dwarfs. Vs the bandits being in addition to the dwarfs all along.

Edit: okay, I see that little person George Appleby is in the final film as a member of the bandits as the character Quigg. I believe he is the one in the leaked bandit photo. But also that he has a history of being a stunt actor (including filling in for Dinklage in GoT for stunts) so that makes it still tough to know. It's possible the leaked photo was indeed involving stunt performers (which is something Disney claimed) and Appleby was there as a substitute for Kleppa's character who may have been part of the bandits and a Grumpy equivalent. Or it could be that Appleby was always a separate character and Kleppa's role was as a dwarf/magical creature in a group different from the bandits.

 

[LittleBuford]

Edit: okay, I see that little person George Appleby is in the final film as a member of the bandits as the character Quigg. I believe he is the one in the leaked bandit photo. But also that he has a history of being a stunt actor (including filling in for Dinklage in GoT for stunts) so that makes it still tough to know. It's possible the leaked photo was indeed involving stunt performers (which is something Disney claimed) and Appleby was there as a substitute for Kleppa's character who may have been part of the bandits and a Grumpy equivalent.

I find that really unlikely, because all the other individuals in those leaked photos (from what I can tell; it's possible one or two are standins) are also in the final film as the bandits. Moreover, the same actors feature in this tweet:



I Googled a couple of them, and they are actors rather than stunt performers.

 

[Farerb]

I find that really unlikely, because all the other individuals in those leaked photos (from what I can tell; it's possible one or two are standins) are also in the final film as the bandits. Moreover, the same actors feature in this tweet:



I Googled a couple of them, and they are actors rather than stunt performers.

It must be awful for them that all their scenes got cut.

 

[LittleBuford]

It must be awful for them that all their scenes got cut.

Yes, it was glaringly obvious that that’s what had happened. I’d love to know what the film was like before being reworked. Perhaps we would have ended up with something much closer to it had those production photos not leaked to such ridicule.

 

[Ghost93]

Yes, it was glaringly obvious that that’s what had happened. I’d love to know what the film was like before being reworked. Perhaps we would have ended up with something much closer to it had those production photos not leaked to such ridicule.

What made it seem obvious that they had a lot of cut scenes was the apparent romantic subplot between the short bandit and the black woman named Maple. This romance got like two lines of dialogue and it just felt...weird? Like when Snow White spoke with the short bandit seemed to have a crush on her, I was thinking "where did this come from?" I feel it's clearly a remnant of an earlier version of the movie where the bandits were actually developed characters with distinct personalities that got whittled down to the absolute bare minimum.

 

[LittleBuford]

What made it seem obvious that they had a lot of cut scenes was the apparent romantic subplot between the short bandit and the black woman named Maple. This romance got like two lines of dialogue and it just felt...weird? Like when Snow White spoke with the short bandit seemed to have a crush on her, I was thinking "where did this come from?" I feel it's clearly a remnant of an earlier version of the movie where the bandits were actually developed characters with distinct personalities that got whittled down to the absolute bare minimum.

Yep, that really stood out to me too. Given how well Jonathan worked as a character (to my mind, at least), I really wish Disney had stuck to its guns and given us the bandits as intended. Yes, the production shots were panned mercilessly, but the damage had already been done by that point, and the characters are still there in the final product anyway, although with barely any purpose.

 

[Chi84]

I guess the Disney Apologists and the supposed Modern Audience weren't enough to keep this afloat.

I guess the Modern Audience didn't see themselves in the characters. I don't know why they wouldn't though, they are just as insufferable as Rachel Zegler.

What Modern Audience wanted a remake of a 1937 movie

 

[LittleBuford]

I guess the Disney Apologists and the supposed Modern Audience weren't enough to keep this afloat.

I guess the Modern Audience didn't see themselves in the characters. I don't know why they wouldn't though, they are just as insufferable as Rachel Zegler.

If you haven't seen the film, you can't possibly opine knowledgably on any of its characters.

 

[networkpro]

I believe that this weekends drop off of 66% leads credence that the movie itself is weak. Word of mouth of a better production than the rumor mill speaks of would have persevered.