Spoilers in this thread/Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull

EPCOT Explorer

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I just got back!LOVED IT!Instant classic if you ask me.:)

I was thinking this one might be the last, but on this thread I hear talk about another Indiana Jones movie ? This is not the first time that I heard talk of anothing Indiana Jones movie. On amazon I heard talk about a 5th Indiana Jones movie. I will look forward to it.

There was one scene in the 4th Indiana Jones movie that freaked me out. I will not post about it here, since some reading this thread have not seen the film. I am sure those who have seen it will guess what scene I am talking about. This scene in a way was even more creepy that the scene in the Temple of Doom when that poor man was sacrificed to Kali :lookaroun

Yeah,I was pretty freaked with that one.

Great movie, and perhaps third best Indy film. The one most frivolous thing though: CG gophers... why? They looked so fake, added so little to the film, and they could have probably used real gophers. The scene of Indy against a mushroom cloud was iconic though.
AMAZING!It coulda been the poster.
I thought it was fun. The plot was hokey, and the banter when Marion first came out was cringe-worthy. There were many, many hard-to-believe moments.

But, just like with James Bond movies, none of that really matters. The hero is cool, and the chase-scenes are fantastic. I absolutely loved the refrigerator scene. Don't expect any life lessons here, and don't expect everything to make sense. Just expect to be entertained.

And I was.

AWESOME MOVIE!:sohappy:
 

WDWFREAK53

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The only movie I can really think of that last had the Soviets as villains was Red Dawn. Mean while, there really have been tons of movies with the Nazis or Nazi-like villains like V for Vendetta, Hellboy, and many others.

I did read somewhere that the Soviets really did consider using psychic warfare to spy on America. The reason why they were after the crystal skull was because it would've helped them do that.

Rocky IV :lookaroun

Miracle :lookaroun
 

Fun2BFree

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I understand the 50s B-Movie aspect as well, but still. It was lame. In both senses of the word.

I never got why Lucas continues to emulate 50s B-Movies and Sci-Fi serials. Why is he trying to homage something that was crap? Surely Indy deserves something with less cheese. :shrug:
 

Jellyfish

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I'm not a fan of IJ but i did liek this film. I had no idea of the storyline though lol, But it was a good film. I like the motorbike bit and the waterfall bit :)
 

Master Yoda

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The only movie I can really think of that last had the Soviets as villains was Red Dawn. Mean while, there really have been tons of movies with the Nazis or Nazi-like villains like V for Vendetta, Hellboy, and many others.

I did read somewhere that the Soviets really did consider using psychic warfare to spy on America. The reason why they were after the crystal skull was because it would've helped them do that.
Nearly every major government has delved into researching and or practicing different levels of psychic warfare.
 

Computer Magic

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"good" reviews for this movie are based on the nostalgia of the characters coming back to the big screen. We all want Indy...we want to go on his adventures...we want to enjoy them...
I agree.

It was Indy meets Star Wars. How cool would have been if the millenium falcon would have floated out instead of the space ship
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Fun2BFree

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It was Indy meets Star Wars. How cool would have been if the millenium falcon would have floated out instead of the space ship
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My friends and I were actually discussing if the movie's ending could be worsened by the replacement of the aliens with Jar Jar Binks.

"Meesa comin' wit' yoo, Indee!" :lookaroun
 

Master Yoda

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cause a face melting ark isn't far fetched at all! hehehe :drevil:
Or glowing Shankara stones with magic properties or a cup that gives everlasting life guarded by a 500 year old Knight.:lookaroun

In all seriousness the theory of aliens being involved with the Maya, Nazca lines and Area 51 have been around much longer than the Indy franchise. They are simply a more modern legend that most of us are familiar with. Let's be honest how many of us had actually heard of the Ark of the Covenant or the Thuggee cult before we saw Indy 1 and 2?
 

enough

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to quote another Indy viewer who shares the same feelings about this movie that I do:

"If I ever see George Lucas in person I am going to punch him in his turkey neck."

This latest Indy film was just awful - all across the board it was bad.

I wouldn't mind the main theme (the crystal skull and it's alien origins + the delivery of modern tech to an ancient society) if it were wrapped in a well put together story. It seemed like all the threads kept unraveling and none of them were every really totally flushed out. Even the Marion+Indy=Mutt story line was haphazard and squishy.

But, the thing that really killed this movie for me (and since it happens early on it set me up for disappointment from the get-go) was seeing the outline of Indy against the backdrop of the Atom bomb.

What, if anything, did that add to the story line? Why shove Indy into a fridge and have him thrown miles away only to have him roll out unharmed? What the hell was that? It was like Lucas convinced them that they had to have Indy stumble upon a mock town setup for atom bomb testing and the writers said, "Sure, ok - but how does he get a safe distance away from the explosion so he isn't incinerated?" to which Lucas said - "um... well... he uh.... hmm.... oh, ok - a lead-lined refridgerator escape pod, of course!"

What the?!?!


so let down - so utterly let down :(
 

Flower'sChild

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Let's be honest how many of us had actually heard of the Ark of the Covenant or the Thuggee cult before we saw Indy 1 and 2?

Well I think a lot of people heard about the Ark before Raiders of the Lost Ark came out. The Ark is one of the key things that people would remember from the Bible.
 

Flower'sChild

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By the way was there ever an Indiana Jones movie where the main villain was a Nazi ?

In Raiders the main villain was a french Archaeologists called Dr. Rene Belloq who was working with the Nazis, but I never thought he was a Nazi himself.


Now in Indiana Jones And The Last Crusade I was not sure if Walter Donovan was a Nazi or just working for them. He was an American. He did seem to be a Nazi more so than Belloq. The one thing at the end though is at the end Donovan seemed to deny that he was a Nazi and said he just wanted to drink from the cup so he could live forever. Donovan said Hilter could have the world, but I just want to cup itself for eternal life. So I was not even sure if Donovan was a true Nazi or just someone working for them.
 

XaiChai

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But, the thing that really killed this movie for me (and since it happens early on it set me up for disappointment from the get-go) was seeing the outline of Indy against the backdrop of the Atom bomb.

What, if anything, did that add to the story line? Why shove Indy into a fridge and have him thrown miles away only to have him roll out unharmed? What the hell was that? It was like Lucas convinced them that they had to have Indy stumble upon a mock town setup for atom bomb testing and the writers said, "Sure, ok - but how does he get a safe distance away from the explosion so he isn't incinerated?" to which Lucas said - "um... well... he uh.... hmm.... oh, ok - a lead-lined refridgerator escape pod, of course!"

What the?!?!


so let down - so utterly let down :(

yea, cause falling from an airplane in a raft onto a river is so much more doable. In my opinion, it really set the time period and looked neat.
 

Pongo

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Let's be honest how many of us had actually heard of the Ark of the Covenant or the Thuggee cult before we saw Indy 1 and 2?

Well, in regards to the Ark, I hope a considerable number of people... At least the practicing Christians and Jews.

My deal with this new Indy is that they seem to have totally destroyed the character in my eyes. His work is based in archaeology/anthropology. His past adventures (excluding Temple of Doom, for which we all seem to share the same disgust) were ancient artifacts that were recorded in ancient texts that actually exist (the texts, not necessarily the artifacts). The artifacts were human.

By bringing in the aliens, Indiana Jones was no longer an archaeologist or anthropologist, but a cryptozoologist? No. That's not cool. Yes, the Nazca lines are mysterious, but there's no record of them ever being made by aliens. In fact, their connection to the story is almost arbitrary. They could have set the story in Austria and it would have had the same effect.

At least in the past versions, Indy's adventures were human, as they should be.

The only thing I really appreciated in this movie was that their "City of Gold" was actually a "City of Knowledge." Kind of ironic, if you think about the movie it was put in.
 

Master Yoda

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Well, in regards to the Ark, I hope a considerable number of people... At least the practicing Christians and Jews.

My deal with this new Indy is that they seem to have totally destroyed the character in my eyes. His work is based in archaeology/anthropology. His past adventures (excluding Temple of Doom, for which we all seem to share the same disgust) were ancient artifacts that were recorded in ancient texts that actually exist (the texts, not necessarily the artifacts). The artifacts were human.

By bringing in the aliens, Indiana Jones was no longer an archaeologist or anthropologist, but a cryptozoologist? No. That's not cool. Yes, the Nazca lines are mysterious, but there's no record of them ever being made by aliens. In fact, their connection to the story is almost arbitrary. They could have set the story in Austria and it would have had the same effect.

At least in the past versions, Indy's adventures were human, as they should be.

The only thing I really appreciated in this movie was that their "City of Gold" was actually a "City of Knowledge." Kind of ironic, if you think about the movie it was put in.
I went to an Episcopalian school for 4k to 6th grade and went to church twice a week and I and never heard of it until I saw Raiders. Granted I was only 10 when the movie was released but I had still never heard of it. Like it or not the legends, myths or whatever you want to call it of aliens in one form or another being involved in ancient civilizations have been around pretty much forever. Indy's past adventurers were all religious in nature (the ark, the grail, evil cult) which IMHO were far less believable the the possibility of an advanced alien civilization having some sort of influence on and ancient human civilization.
 

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