erasure fan1
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Oh I get it. I don't mind filler episodes if they're entertaining. The point was more about BoBF being an extremely short one off series. So I get why some, myself included, would want them to jump right in.
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SPOILERS: Book of Boba Fett - Latest episodes
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Disney Irish
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We don’t know yet if this will just be a one-off single season series or if they plan on multiple seasons like with Mando. So I for one am along for the ride how ever long it’ll be.
MarvelCharacterNerd
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Nothing happened any more than was already shown when Boba Fett killed Bib Fortuna and took the throne... before the series started.
We are like a minute further into the story after this episode.
This would be okay if balanced by the kind of cool El Mariachi/Desperado stylish action I was hoping Rodriguez would bring to the visuals, but again... not so much.
I'm still waiting for the series to start.
MarvelCharacterNerd
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Filler is for a season with 22 episodes. Not a self-contained series of six or seven episodes. If there's not enough story as originally conceived, they need to either have less episodes or... more story.
As with Hawkeye, the first four episodes could have been completely skipped, a bunch of unnecessary side characters eliminated, and it could have (and IMO should have) simply been the two hour movie the plot of the final two episodes allowed.
erasure fan1
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Exactly. That's what I've been saying. If I'm only going to get 6 episodes, I want them all to count.
If it's super popular than a 2nd season is a possibility. Maybe it's just me, but the way it was described when they announced it, was a mini series. I take that as a one off. Either way, with a short season I prefer a more concise format. I am also in 100% no matter the length.
Disney Irish
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Except that’s what these are essentially, they are movies broken into episodic format. Even in a movie you have filler time to round out the story, that is what we are getting.
MarvelCharacterNerd
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If the filler adds to the enjoyment of the film/series, sure. i.e. charming character moments, side trips to interesting locations, stunning visuals, exciting fight scenes, a beautiful song or dance number, a Halloween episode where everyone dresses up in wacky costumes for the sake of extra merchandising, etc.
But not just "oh, he dug in the sand for water" and then there was some bad CGI of leaping on a Harryhausen monster while another guy crawled around in a lizard suit. And a stunt double for Ming-Na jumped around some buildings. *When nothing actually happened storywise at all.*
I could watch Grogu sipping soup or trying to steal a spaceship lever for an hour and be entertained. 'Cause the kid is damn cute. Heck, I watched the hour-long loop clip of Zemo dancing from Falcon & Winter Soldier and I was freakin' mesmerized.
But I saw nothing in the 39 minutes of this first episode that was even filler-additive. I mean, did anyone not guess he somehow blew up the Sarlacc and got out and wound up making contact with someone to survive? Welp, that happened for 30 seconds here. Did anyone not guess that some people would pay tribute and some people would not? Welp, that happened for a minute or two here. I still have no idea what was accomplished with those 39 minutes however for advancing the story.
JAB
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The flashback scenes serve to both fill in the 5-year gap between "Jedi" and "Mandalorian" and to establish some of Fett's character. It makes narrative sense to start where we last saw him prior to "Mandalorian" - in the Sarlaac. Even though you might feel it's obvious, it wouldn't very interesting to skip past his escape and essentially tell the audience "just assume he got out" (and honestly, a lot of fans have wanted to see that scene for decades, so if they didn't show Fett escaping from the Sarlacc, there would have been some very upset people). The scenes with the sandpeople show his failure to escape by fighting the Tuskens and his eventual success by earning their respect instead - a lesson he's now applying to the way he plans to run his organization. The tributes were much more than "Some paid. Some didn't." It's about who paid and who didn't. It's about establishing the major players in the organization and their position towards the new management. And even among those that paid tribute, how they paid tribute does a lot to establish an uneasy tone about their motivations. The episode also raises some questions to be answered as the season moves along. Why is Fett continually using Bacta treatments (injuries? degradation from being a clone?)? Who sent the assassins after him? What schemes are Jabba's former underlings up to, tribute or no?If the filler adds to the enjoyment of the film/series, sure. i.e. charming character moments, side trips to interesting locations, stunning visuals, exciting fight scenes, a beautiful song or dance number, a Halloween episode where everyone dresses up in wacky costumes for the sake of extra merchandising, etc.
But not just "oh, he dug in the sand for water" and then there was some bad CGI of leaping on a Harryhausen monster while another guy crawled around in a lizard suit. And a stunt double for Ming-Na jumped around some buildings. *When nothing actually happened storywise at all.*
I could watch Grogu sipping soup or trying to steal a spaceship lever for an hour and be entertained. 'Cause the kid is damn cute. Heck, I watched the hour-long loop clip of Zemo dancing from Falcon & Winter Soldier and I was freakin' mesmerized.
But I saw nothing in the 39 minutes of this first episode that was even filler-additive. I mean, did anyone not guess he somehow blew up the Sarlacc and got out and wound up making contact with someone to survive? Welp, that happened for 30 seconds here. Did anyone not guess that some people would pay tribute and some people would not? Welp, that happened for a minute or two here. I still have no idea what was accomplished with those 39 minutes however for advancing the story.
You may not feel anything happened, but to me, there was a whole lot done to lay the foundation for the season and establish characters and motivation.
I think it died.
sedati
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Here I am trying to get a good screen cap of the creature fight for a new desktop image and two people have called it crappy. Yes it's not real, but it looked damn good (IMO). The particle effects as it rose up were well done and the overall movement and anatomy was complex. Compare Boba on its back to a similar scene in AOTC and you can see not only a vast improvement, but one made even more impressive as this is for home viewing.
Expectation is fun, but it's best to leave it behind once a show begins. It seems like most watch ready to hate and have a prepared checklist of things that must happen in order to be judged as good. Entertainment's job isn't to win you over. As an audience you have to be receptive. Certainly it can go downhill from there, but it really does blow my mind at what people call crap these days when compared to the entertainment of old. Or is it simply the internet's love of extremes- what happened to a good old, meh?
Expectation is fun, but it's best to leave it behind once a show begins. It seems like most watch ready to hate and have a prepared checklist of things that must happen in order to be judged as good. Entertainment's job isn't to win you over. As an audience you have to be receptive. Certainly it can go downhill from there, but it really does blow my mind at what people call crap these days when compared to the entertainment of old. Or is it simply the internet's love of extremes- what happened to a good old, meh?
BrianLo
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A lot of you really seemed to miss the point of the Episode. His comment to Fennec was about wanting to rule with Respect and not Fear. The entire purpose of the backstory was to establish where this philosophy was born from, about how the locals of Tatooine could learn to respect and subsequently follow him. Particularly since the Tusken's never really seemed to have been ruled by Jabba.
I don't think it was filler at all, it establishes the character and motivations. With a ground work for an enemy.
It also sets up the series to function not as a third season to Mandalorian, but to be easily watchable without that series empirically.
I don't think it was filler at all, it establishes the character and motivations. With a ground work for an enemy.
It also sets up the series to function not as a third season to Mandalorian, but to be easily watchable without that series empirically.
I wanted to hear more about moisture farming, repairing droids, and the family dynamic between a restless young man and his protective uncle.
That uncle and aunt relationship really paid off plotwise, didn't it? Luke was so...
Archie123
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Yep, still crappy.
sedati
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This comment is filler and fails to progress the argument.
