SPOILER: The Acolyte -- Disney+ Star Wars -- begins June 5, 2024

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Your comment makes sense only if you ignore the earlier point you were trying to make and the conventional definition of linear television, but you keep doing you.

Bad day/week/month/decade for Irish

Star Wars continues to sink…
…but even worse - that data link yesterday pulls the curtain back on the sacred unicorn of all Iger Disciples…Disney+

I’ll send tissues

 

[erasure fan1]

Ahsoka season 2 will likely see production once The Mandalorian & Grogu has wrapped filming, as both projects utilize the Volume technology and thus would likely have to compete for the space

I'm going to plant the flag of mando and grogu will not use the volume. From what Jon has said in interviews, this is a full big screen experience. And to me that's not the volume. The volume is great for something like a show or made for tv movie. But it absolutely isn't up to par for a feature film. I don't think this is the film that they reign in the budget.

This needs full blockbuster treatment. The worst thing they could do for this film would be, 1. Not have Mando and Grogu be the focus of the whole story. Don't Kenobi or Mando season 3 it. And 2. Cheap out on production. If this looks like the tv series just on the big screen, it's going to take a beating. This needs to hit big.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

In this case the show was created and run as a traditional linear show even though it was broadcast on a streaming platform.

So just make it up, then?

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I'm going to plant the flag of mando and grogu will not use the volume. From what Jon has said in interviews, this is a full big screen experience. And to me that's not the volume. The volume is great for something like a show or made for tv movie. But it absolutely isn't up to par for a feature film. I don't think this is the film that they reign in the budget.

This needs full blockbuster treatment. The worst thing they could do for this film would be, 1. Not have Mando and Grogu be the focus of the whole story. Don't Kenobi or Mando season 3 it. And 2. Cheap out on production. If this looks like the tv series just on the big screen, it's going to take a beating. This needs to hit big.

I agree…

I just don’t see a compelling story there

I also see no one in San Francisco or Burbank capable of writing/finding/judging one.

 

[Disney Irish]

So just make it up, then?

No, it was produced by Marvel Television which was the Television Division of Marvel run by Jeph Loeb prior to it coming under Marvel Studios under Feige. All their shows from the ABC shows, to Freeform, to Netflix, were all run the same way. The Netflix shows were not treated differently in terms of production, budget, etc., just because it was on Netflix. So for all intents and purpose they were linear shows, just happen to be on Netflix.

 

[erasure fan1]

I agree…

I just don’t see a compelling story there

I also see no one in San Francisco or Burbank capable of writing/finding/judging one.

This is a film I'm going to try and stay positive. I've always been a fan of Favreau and I really liked season one and two of Mando. That said, this does have a slight panic feel from Disney. As if Iger was like, ok Kennedy, you need a film out to theaters, asap. So they chose this because it's by far the most bankable star wars thing they have.

Are they just rewriting season 4? Did they actually come up with a great idea and that's why it leap frogged everything else? There's definitely some questions there that could be of concern. This movie started filming a month ago and we don't really have the slightest idea of what we will see. All we know is "new adventure". Are they just kind of making it up as they go, just like George did. Or is there actually an idea there.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

No, it was produced by Marvel Television which was the Television Division of Marvel run by Jeph Loeb prior to it coming under Marvel Studios under Feige. All their shows from the ABC shows, to Freeform, to Netflix, were all run the same way. The Netflix shows were not treated differently in terms of production, budget, etc., just because it was on Netflix. So for all intents and purpose they were linear shows, just happen to be on Netflix.

Just to reaffirm: so spending 5x as much for a shorter stream show nobody watched is a BAD idea?

 

[Disney Irish]

Just to reaffirm: so spending 5x as much for a shorter stream show nobody watched is a BAD idea?

I've said 10,000x over the last 5 years, the budgets for streaming have been way too high. So yes it was a bad idea that all of Hollywood has fallen into.

Using the Marvel linear shows, even the Netflix Marvel shows, as an example shows they know how to properly budget shows. They just need to get back to that.

There is no gotcha moment here, move on.

 

[Hawkeye_2018]

I'm going to plant the flag of mando and grogu will not use the volume. From what Jon has said in interviews, this is a full big screen experience. And to me that's not the volume. The volume is great for something like a show or made for tv movie. But it absolutely isn't up to par for a feature film. I don't think this is the film that they reign in the budget.

This needs full blockbuster treatment. The worst thing they could do for this film would be, 1. Not have Mando and Grogu be the focus of the whole story. Don't Kenobi or Mando season 3 it. And 2. Cheap out on production. If this looks like the tv series just on the big screen, it's going to take a beating. This needs to hit big.

The Volume was used in Thor L&T and The Batman.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I've said 10,000x over the last 5 years, the budgets for streaming have been way too high. So yes it was a bad idea that all of Hollywood has fallen into.

Using the Marvel linear shows, even the Netflix Marvel shows, as an example shows they know how to properly budget shows. They just need to get back to that.

There is no gotcha moment here, move on.

I don’t need any gotcha moments, Ace…the truth is winning out on key subjects

Every
Single
Day

 

[Disney Irish]

I don’t need any gotcha moments, Ace…the truth is winning out on key subjects

Every
Single
Day

If winning on a Disney Fan site is important to you, well that says a lot about you, Ace.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

If winning on a Disney Fan site is important to you, well that says a lot about you, Ace.

It says I don’t spend just as much time here making excuses no one believes about bad management at a company with serious, long term problems.

 

[Disney Irish]

It says I don’t spend just as much time here making excuses no one believes about bad management at a company with serious, long term problems.

Or it says that you only care about winning some fictitious argument on a site with anonymous people. Something I've noticed with a lot of posters you disagree with.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Or it says that you only care about winning some fictitious argument on a site with anonymous people. Something I've noticed with a lot of posters you disagree with.

Well that may be their truth…and sometimes mine…but not always

Agree to disagree

 

[Disney Irish]

Well that may be their truth…and sometimes mine…but not always

Agree to disagree

Well as one of my signatures says, this is a theme park forum not a competition, there is no winning or losing. Maybe something to remember in these discussions, just a piece of advice.

 

[erasure fan1]

The Volume was used in Thor L&T and The Batman.

I hadn't seen that, but it would make sense since so much of love and thunder looked really cheap. That's not what you want for your first star wars film in 7yrs.

The volume is great if you want to extend a alleyway or put a building in the back skyline, like they did in the batman. But most all of the batman was shot on practical sets. So if they keep it to that, ok, it's fine. But if it looks like a tv show, we're in trouble.

 

[Hawkeye_2018]

The Volume is just a different way of filming CGI. It can look great or somewhat cheap, just depending on how much time and money they want to allocate.

 

[Serpico Jones]

The Batman used the volume very sparingly. It was used during the scenes in which people met with Batman on the skyscraper overlooking Gotham City and for the final shot of the Batmobile chase.

 

[Wendy Pleakley]

The Volume tech seems very seamless to me. A lot of that footage will age better than movies where the actors are in front of green screens most of the time.

The presumably bigger budget means we should see some epic space battles. The shows have generally been limited to single ships duking it out. I'd expect to see a bunch of Mandalorians come together.

That scope is where I'd expect to see a movie outdo the TV show. Sci-fi shows will always be heavy on the virtual environments. That's not the area I'd expect to see a big difference between TV and movies.

 

[flynnibus]

in case people didn't know... 'the volume' is not some singular thing anymore. You can find all kinds of videos of people building these out and using them. I wish I had the link I had in my mind handy, but I can't find it right now