News Splash Mountain retheme to Princess and the Frog - Tiana's Bayou Adventure

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Roger_the_pianist

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But did they fix up the ride and maintain the Br'er Rabbit storyline? No. Then quietly dropping "Plantation" in 2009 avoids a confrontation later.

I know I'm gonna get backlash for this: but Disneyland's Splash Mtn literally sits right beside...a Plantation. Haunted Mansion was referred to as as a plantation house early on, and it's clearly that in the context of New Orleans Square. I'm not saying it's intentional to have a Song of the South ride beside a plantation house, but such can be observed.
 

owlsandcoffee

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But did they fix up the ride and maintain the Br'er Rabbit storyline? No. Then quietly dropping "Plantation" in 2009 avoids a confrontation later.

I know I'm gonna get backlash for this: but Disneyland's Splash Mtn literally sits right beside...a Plantation. Haunted Mansion was referred to as as a plantation house early on, and it's clearly that in the context of New Orleans Square. I'm not saying it's intentional to have a Song of the South ride beside a plantation house, but such can be observed.

You're not wrong. To my mind the solution they've come up with is just dandy. Now if they touch the Mansion I'll have some problems.
 

EagleScout610

Owner of a RKF - Resting Kermit Face
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I just love imagining someone throwing a sales pitch in Japan saying "We want you to retheme this and you will fully pay it."

I just think it's hilarious.

Is there any proof that Tokyo has the most well maintained Splash?
"Please?"
"No"
"Please?"
"No"
"Pleaase?"
"No"
"Pretty please?"
"No"
"Here's a Lifetime pass"
"No"
"Five dollars?"
"NO"
 

Cadbury

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I had a dream that I was at D23 and Chapek was on stage and he announced Splash would close in Late 2021 at Disneyland. That's when people started booing and throwing Br'er Rabbit plushes at him. The dream ended with him in the fetal position buried in plushes crying "Save me Moana"
I'm ready when you are!

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Ghost93

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There is no way Disney would back out of a retheme of Splash Mountain in California or Orlando. If it was ever discovered that Disney was considering backing out of the retheme in the United States, the media would tear the Disney company apart. I understand people who love the ride as is may be in the denial phase in the stages of grief, but the retheme will happen.

I wouldn't be surprised if takes many years for the retheme to occur in Orlando, but the change is inevitable.

I think the real reason there has been no update on the retheme is that Disney lied when they said [in June of 2020] that they had been planning the Splash Mountain retheme for at least a year. While Disney may have had some conversations about one-day retheming Splash Mountain to move away from Song of the South, I don't think the retheme was anything more than a vague, early concept. And then in the summer of 2020 — at the height of the Geroge Floyd protests — Disney quickly panicked and feared getting canceled, so announced way too soon that they plan to retheme Splash Mountian from Song of the South to Princess and the Frog to avoid being labeled racist.

Anyway, while I do love Splash Mountain as is, I think the retheme is a good call. It makes little sense to have an attraction advertising a movie that has been essentially self-banned by Disney. And Princess and the Frog needs more representation in the parks.

I think to make the retheme work, Disney is going to have to tweak large portions of Frontierland. Maybe the street leading up to Splash Mountain (with the Country Bear Jamboree and Pecos Bill restaurant) can be changed into a New Orleans-themed street? I've heard rumors about the Country Bear Jamboree possibly being permanently shut down sometime in the near future, so I wouldn't be surprised if this is the route Disney took.
 
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Cadbury

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I think to make the retheme work, Disney is going to have to tweak large portions of Frontierland. Maybe the street leading up to Splash Mountain (with the Country Bear Jamboree and Pecos Bill restaurant) can be changed into a New Orleans-themed street?
I hope. Having something themed to New Orleans will then give WDW a reason to do something for Mardi Gras every year. I know Port Orleans does their own thing for Mardi Gras but you don't really see it in any of the parks.
 

EagleScout610

Owner of a RKF - Resting Kermit Face
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There is no way Disney would back out of a retheme of Splash Mountain in California or Orlando. If it was ever discovered that Disney was considering backing out of the retheme in the United States, the media would tear the Disney company apart. I understand people who love the ride as is may be in the denial phase in the stages of grief, but the retheme will happen.

I wouldn't be surprised if takes many years for the retheme to occur in Orlando, but the change is inevitable.

I think the real reason there has been no update on the retheme is that Disney lied when they said [in June of 2020] that they had been planning the Splash Mountain retheme for at least a year. While Disney may have had some conversations about one-day retheming Splash Mountain to move away from Song of the South, I don't think the retheme was anything more than a vague, early concept. And then in the summer of 2020 — at the height of the Geroge Floyd protests — Disney quickly panicked and feared getting canceled, so announced way too soon that they plan to retheme Splash Mountian from Song of the South to Princess and the Frog to avoid being labeled racist.

Anyway, while I do love Splash Mountain as is, I think the retheme is a good call. It makes little sense to have an attraction advertising a movie that has been essentially self-banned by Disney. And Princess and the Frog needs more representation in the parks.

I think to make the retheme work, Disney is going to have to tweak large portions of Frontierland. Maybe the street leading up to Splash Mountain (with the Country Bear Jamboree and Pecos Bill restaurant) can be changed into a New Orleans-themed street? I've heard rumors about the Country Bear Jamboree possibly being permanently shut down sometime in the near future, so I wouldn't be surprised if this is the route Disney took.
Exactly.
 

Disney Glimpses

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Eh...they would never publicly back out of the re-theme. In reality, while it isn't likely, it's possible they internally back out of it at WDW and it sits "in progress" for 10 or more years.

At which point, if the general opinion on things of historically problematic nature (like SOTS) changes, it could get the axe entirely.

Remember: Splash Mountain wasn't problematic to the company until 2020. The proof is, they celebrated its 30th anniversary at Disneyland in 2019. So as quickly as it became 'problematic' people can quickly go back to not caring about it. Most already have.

Anything is possible, 99.9% of people aren't as close to the news of this company as we are. We have to view it in the lens of the average person which is: they frankly don't care and view it as what it is—a theme park log flume ride.

It's not the Library of Congress. I don't think the Splash Mountain re-theme being rumored to be cancelled is going to make waves in the news cycle. Heck, the news of its re-theme barely made a real dent.

Remember the nighttime parade? It's coming, don't worry. It's coming...

They can say that for a long, long, long time.

All of that being said, I hope they push it off for a long time. I love Splash Mountain but I also want them to be flush with cash before they touch that attraction. Which is what they are not right now.
 
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swge

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Hmmm what if...

What if all pre production for the attraction was already finished including animatronics and set pieces? What if they were to make an announcement stating that Anaheim's would close this fall for a summer 2022 opening (9 month closure) and that Orlando's would remain splash for the remainder of the 50th anniversary then transition after the 18 month celebration?

what if........

..... :)
 

Sharon&Susan

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Hmmm what if...

What if all pre production for the attraction was already finished including animatronics and set pieces? What if they were to make an announcement stating that Anaheim's would close this fall for a summer 2022 opening (9 month closure) and that Orlando's would remain splash for the remainder of the 50th anniversary then transition after the 18 month celebration?

what if........

..... :)
Could we possibly expect an announcement by the end of July hmmmm?
 

ToTBellHop

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There is no way Disney would back out of a retheme of Splash Mountain in California or Orlando. If it was ever discovered that Disney was considering backing out of the retheme in the United States, the media would tear the Disney company apart. I understand people who love the ride as is may be in the denial phase in the stages of grief, but the retheme will happen.

I wouldn't be surprised if takes many years for the retheme to occur in Orlando, but the change is inevitable.

I think the real reason there has been no update on the retheme is that Disney lied when they said [in June of 2020] that they had been planning the Splash Mountain retheme for at least a year. While Disney may have had some conversations about one-day retheming Splash Mountain to move away from Song of the South, I don't think the retheme was anything more than a vague, early concept. And then in the summer of 2020 — at the height of the Geroge Floyd protests — Disney quickly panicked and feared getting canceled, so announced way too soon that they plan to retheme Splash Mountian from Song of the South to Princess and the Frog to avoid being labeled racist.

Anyway, while I do love Splash Mountain as is, I think the retheme is a good call. It makes little sense to have an attraction advertising a movie that has been essentially self-banned by Disney. And Princess and the Frog needs more representation in the parks.

I think to make the retheme work, Disney is going to have to tweak large portions of Frontierland. Maybe the street leading up to Splash Mountain (with the Country Bear Jamboree and Pecos Bill restaurant) can be changed into a New Orleans-themed street? I've heard rumors about the Country Bear Jamboree possibly being permanently shut down sometime in the near future, so I wouldn't be surprised if this is the route Disney took.
I wouldn’t say there’s “no way”, although it is unlikely. The only way I can imagine is if they decided to build a PatF ride elsewhere, as they should have done anyway. DL’s version is certainly doomed since a PatF ride won’t come to DCA and makes perfect sense next to New Orleans Square (which it may join).
 
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