News Splash Mountain retheme to Princess and the Frog - Tiana's Bayou Adventure

[retr0gate]

The question is what would you do with the space occupied by CBJ if this becomes Port Orleans? Presumably a gift shop like Eudora’s I suppose if you can make up for the lost attraction capacity by doing the “Beyond Big Thunder attractions, possibly slicing into Rivers of America.

I know TDO planner would be absolutely thrilled to not have to maintain as many AAs and devote more space to merch and F&B spending.

"Jazz Bear Jamboree"

 

[JohnD]

Yeah, I saw that. I'm just saying I'm glad it's not being done regardless of the reason.

I'm conflicted. The idea of a salt dome puts a bad taste in my mouth. The tree seemed more natural. So while I don't necessarily lean toward the tree concept, I'm dubious over the salt mine concept.

 

[_caleb]

I find the movie somewhat dull outside of the animated sequences, Baskett and McDaniel's performances and the fantastic music throughout. But it's not remotely one of their worst movies. Nor is it offensive. There are other Disney movies with actual offensive mean-spirited scenes and character in them that they're still allowing to be sold and viewed. Mickey Mouse's innate design is claimed to be blackface, why isn't he being purged from the company? I know the answer, lets see if anyone else does...

I thought the new and improved you was going to avoid this stuff.

 

[MisterPenguin]

The idea of a salt dome puts a bad taste in my mouth.

And if salt loses its flavor, with what can you flavor it with? It is no good but to be thrown out and trampled underfoot.

 

[UNCgolf]

I'm conflicted. The idea of a salt dome puts a bad taste in my mouth. The tree seemed more natural. So while I don't necessarily lean toward the tree concept, I'm dubious over the salt mine concept.

The salt mine idea seems silly, but my concern with the boat/tree was how it would affect the surrounding areas. It seems like it would have added significant height and potentially been visible from areas where you really shouldn't be able to see it.

 

[JohnD]

And if salt loses its flavor, which what can you flavor it with? It is no good but to be thrown out and trampled underfoot.

 

[monothingie]

I wouldn't mind an eventual squeezing out of pirate theming....

 

[yensidtlaw1969]

I have never seen a confirmation but it is weird that not a single piece of concept art or PR piece has mentioned him or villainy. Disney has gone away from anything animated film villain based since New Fantasyland.

Frozen
Beauty and The Beast in Tokyo
Snow White's redo in DL's Fantasyland

His lack of involvement with the Disney Plus series makes it less likely, as the way the biz works is typically whoever is on contract will record their lines while they have them. Definitely not confirmation, but another strong indicator.

Snow White's Enchanted Wish fully features The Wicked Queen/Hag from Snow White. Her presence is only slightly diminished over Snow White's Scary Adventures - it's more that the tone of the finale was lightened than it is that the Villain was neutered or removed.

 

[retr0gate]

The salt mine idea seems silly, but my concern with the boat/tree was how it would affect the surrounding areas. It seems like it would have added significant height and potentially been visible from areas where you really shouldn't be able to see it.

Definitely would have been visible from Adventureland. I know there are certain angles where you can see the tree stump currently.

 

[FettFan]

The state’s own institutions disagree with you:

Beaver Control - Louisiana Wildlife Federation

WHEREAS, there is an overabundance of beavers in Louisiana and they are rapidly destroying timber, and WHEREAS, prices on beaver pelts are not enough of an incentive for Louisiana trappers to adequately control the beaver population and curtail the damage they are causing, and WHEREAS...

lawildlifefed.org

beaver facts

Beaver habits and distribution

www.louisianafur.com

Their numbers were, however, much lower in the 1930s, when, because of hunting, they were “limited to small areas of the Amite and Comite river basins in East Baton Rouge, East Feliciana, St. Helena, Ascension and Livingston parishes.”

https://lsuagcenter.com/~/media/system/8/3/e/f/83efe5757add6ad0113ccaae247c8a11/crittercornerjan2013.pdf

That’s rather amazing as I’ve lived in Livingston parish for over 30 years. Camped in the woods, paddled the rivers, ran the backroads.

No signs of beaver anywhere.

 

[LittleBuford]

That’s rather amazing as I’ve lived in Livingston parish for over 30 years. Camped in the woods, paddled the rivers, ran the backroads.

No signs of beaver anywhere.

I'm in no position to question your personal experience, but multiple organisations in your state report that beavers are present there, and in quite abundant numbers. I don't think it's all that surprising that you yourself haven't come across any. I am from London and have never once seen a bat there, though they are apparently quite common.

 

[brb1006]

Disney doesn't do this kind of stuff back to them because it's not good form to be seen punching down.

This always comes off as so tacky to me. It’s huge “pick me” energy, and makes both parks come off as super desperate.

Maybe try using your handles to promote your own parks, as opposed to commenting on everything Disney does.

it is getting Sea World and Uni a lot of free publicity and advertisement though

And I read it as fun. If the social is fun the park might be a fun place to be

In the pre Iger era, Disney would frequently take shots at other entertainment companies. Particularly ones they deemed lesser than them. Walt Disney created Disneyland because he felt that other theme parks had a reputation for being dirty and dilapidated, and he felt he could do it better (he was right). This continued into the Eisner era, remember the Possum Park scene in Goofy Movie? They brought it on themselves by being the first to do it.

The only reason this largely stopped under Iger is because the other companies (talking Universal specifically) have actually grown to the point where they're posing legitimate threat to some of their non castle parks. Acknowledging them validates their existence and endangers the bubble they've carefully crafted.


Timber Mountain is a great log flume and easily the second best by far. But all three variants of Splash are still superior by a significant margin. There are lapses in the quality of scenery on Timber that Splash doesn't have. There's a lot of bare unthemed flume trench seen in most other log flumes and the surrounding rockwork doesn't hold a candle to Disney's. The animatronics also aren't as good as Disney's (when Disney's actually work that is). Splash is also longer, and the music is also far better.

This topic reminds me of that one time both Disneyland and Knott's Berry Farm created advertisements to honor both park's anniversaries back in 1980.

Knott's Berry Farm (which turned 60) created an advertisement featuring Mickey honoring Disneyland's 25th Anniversary published on January 1980.

Disneyland (which turned 25) created a sweet and heartfelt illustration of Mickey Mouse and a prospector (representing Knott's) that was published seven months later.

Here's more info from 8bitdan the original poster of those two ads.
"I work at Knotts and I thought this was kind of cool to share. Knotts Berry Farm (est. 1920) and Disneyland (est. 1955) are only about 7 miles apart. Walter Knott assisted Walt Disney in getting Disneyland off the ground. Interesting to see ads that show a rare relationship between what would normally be considered two "competing" businesses."

Stuff like this would sadly not happen nowadays.

 

[Disney Glimpses]

So, I guess Everybody's Got a Laughing Place made the cut for the entrance loop.

 

[Ghost93]

So, I guess Everybody's Got a Laughing Place made the cut for the entrance loop.

The song isn't as famous as Zip A Dee Doo Dah so it's less likely to be noticed by people wanting to remove traces of SOTS in the parks.

 

[HauntedPirate]

The salt mine idea seems silly, but my concern with the boat/tree was how it would affect the surrounding areas. It seems like it would have added significant height and potentially been visible from areas where you really shouldn't be able to see it.

You really think Disney cares about sight lines anymore?

 

[LittleBuford]

This topic reminds me of that one time both Disneyland and Knott's Berry Farm created advertisements to honor both park's anniversaries back in 1980.

Knott's Berry Farm (which turned 60) created an advertisement featuring Mickey honoring Disneyland's 25th Anniversary.
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Disneyland (which turned 25) created a sweet and heartfelt illustration of Mickey Mouse and a prospector (representing Knott's) that was published on Los Angels Times
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These are very sweet and classy.

 

[Santa Raccoon 77]

That’s rather amazing as I’ve lived in Livingston parish for over 30 years. Camped in the woods, paddled the rivers, ran the backroads.

No signs of beaver anywhere.

 

[mickEblu]

Snow White's Enchanted Wish fully features The Wicked Queen/Hag from Snow White. Her presence is only slightly diminished over Snow White's Scary Adventures - it's more that the tone of the finale was lightened than it is that the Villain was neutered or removed.

It was just a refresh though so it’s a moot point either way.

 

[DisneyDebRob]

You really think Disney cares about sight lines anymore?

I was getting ready to say the same thing
There was a time where it never was in the realm of possibility to build or expand something if you could see it anywhere else than the place it was supposed to be seen. The last 15-20 years or more that is less common and the views in almost all the parks, except for AK mostly, has sight line problems. Hopefully they do this one right.

 

[MerlinTheGoat]

How about just the tree atop the mountain sans the boat? A tree on its own would present arguably no disruptions to the other lands and would still probably look prettier and less awkward than the bald peak they went with imo. Far less structural weight added too if that was a problem.