News Splash Mountain retheme to Princess and the Frog - Tiana's Bayou Adventure

[montyz81]

It will be new and in far better shape than Splash has been in for some time, so that’s a hard comparison to make. I would expect it to have very long lines.

Splash has been in a deplorable state for years. It’s a real pity that this is how it ends. The least they could have done was a proper refurb before its final year. Instead, half of the leaves were painted and its condition has deteriorated further this year. Ugh.

I think you all misunderstood what I was saying. I’m not talking about how many people ride, I’m talking about how many people prioritize this ride when they first hit the park or make this a top five ride for their day versus Splash. To me that would be an indicator of the retheme vs the ride itself. Think about Test Track 1.0 vs 2.0. The ride is exactly the same, but the theme is different. Still, everyone flocks to TT when the park opens. That means it was always about the ride not the theme. I was thinking that peoples prioritization of Tiana would now change because the theme of Splash has always been as important as the ride itself.

 

[ToTBellHop]

I think you all misunderstood what I was saying. I’m not talking about how many people ride, I’m talking about how many people prioritize this ride when they first hit the park or make this a top five ride for their day versus Splash. To me that would be an indicator of the retheme vs the ride itself. Think about Test Track 1.0 vs 2.0. The ride is exactly the same, but the theme is different. Still, everyone flocks to TT when the park opens. That means it was always about the ride not the theme. I was thinking that peoples prioritization of Tiana would now change because the theme of Splash has always been as important as the ride itself.

I doubt the theme of Splash is important to many. A compelling Tiana story with strong visuals would be perfectly acceptable to most. I’m not married to Song of the South.

I worry TBA will have a weak story and/or poor-quality visuals. I’m sure I’ll like the music at least…

 

[Incomudro]

But what if they make another princess ride like FEA and keep it giggles and sparkles? Building dread may not play well with that crowd.
I know which way I think they went
I think it comes down to who the target audience is for this

Disney used to put the dread along with the giggles and sparkles.
It's what made their classic films great.

 

[marni1971]

I think it comes down to who the target audience is for this

Sometimes the target audience doesn’t fit the ride format. See SGE.

 

[Disney Glimpses]

They are aware of the pushback and I'm sure they know how important it is to get this right.

This is only true if they are capable of getting it right. I'm not sure they are right now after all the changes at WDI in the last 24-36 months.

 

[erasure fan1]

I'll withhold judgment and eat my words if it turns out great, but it's shocking how they'd get rid of one of their best rides ever built and then make it dead on arrival due to the direction of the project.

I think this is how most of the people who are questioning this feel. If it's as good as splash... Great, we're all happy. But there is zero reason to think this won't be a step backwards. If it's not, than like I've said many times, I'll be happy to eat crow.

 

[WondersOfLife]

More animatronics don't automatically equal a better ride. The Great Movie Ride was full of them yet fell flat as an experience (at least for me).

Uhhhh..... Well your opinion on what attractions are considered "flat" are completely irrelevant now. lol

 

[LittleBuford]

Uhhhh..... Well your opinion on what attractions are considered "flat" are completely irrelevant now. lol

As I said, I’m certainly not alone in my view. The ride was not a hit with guests when they scrapped it.

 

[Kirby86]

Uhhhh..... Well your opinion on what attractions are considered "flat" are completely irrelevant now. lol

I liked the Great Movie Ride but in its later life it was a walk on.

 

[Disney Glimpses]

Yeah, MMRR was a good replacement for TGMR from a business perspective. What was a walk-on is now eating a lot of capacity, all day (and generating Genie+ revenue).

 

[BubbaisSleep]

As I said, I’m certainly not alone in my view. The ride was not a hit with guests when they scrapped it.

As a fan of GMR I would be a little heartbroken finding most of my party would fall asleep during the ride. The concept of GMR is great though. I wish they modernized it and added MMRR into Animation Courtyard.

 

[LittleBuford]

As a fan of GMR I would be a little heartbroken finding most of my party would fall asleep during the ride. The concept of GMR is great though. I wish they modernized it and added MMRR into Animation Courtyard.

As a fan of classic movies and old-school dark rides, I always wanted to love it, but it somehow felt less than the sum of its parts. Only the Wizard of Oz scene truly wowed me.

 

[LittleBuford]

Not according to the huge numbers of voters that outnumbered the fans of MMRR. They all said they prefer the GMR and want it back. After all, that is what MGM/Hollywood Studios was suppose to be about. The magic of movie making. MMRR merely belongs to places like a Toontown, like the one in Disneyland California. Sorry to point this out. Just informing what I've observed.

For what it’s worth, here are the guest ratings for both attractions on TouringPlans, which suggest that the new ride is generally more popular than the old:

The Great Movie Ride | Disney's Hollywood Studios

Entering through a re-creation of Hollywood's Chinese Theater, guests board vehicles for a fast-paced tour through soundstage sets from classic

touringplans.com

Mickey & Minnie's Runaway Railway | Disney's Hollywood Studios

Disney restarted regular production of Mickey Mouse cartoons in 2013. Mostly written and directed by Paul Rudish, these 4-minute vignettes—

touringplans.com

 

[ToTBellHop]

Didn’t anyone ever think that this is referring to renovations? After all, this isn’t a real announcement, and it’s nothing but speculation. Also, maps with the address showed it is not anywhere near Splash Mountain, but near Jungle Cruise. Most likely this might be something else.

It’s absolutely Splash.

 

[celluloid]

Unless I'm mistaken, it didn't score all that well with guests when Disney decided to pull the plug on it. It's a matter of personal taste at the end of the day, and I realise that you are far from alone in missing the ride.

It was also left to rot, being high maintenance and staffing. So it all circles back to why the people's concerns over PATF are well founded.

 

[celluloid]

Lest anyone claim the Mine Train is an E-ticket, Splash Mountain is the newest E-ticket attraction in the Magic Kingdom. TRON will hold the title of the newest E-ticket for all of probably 15-18 months before the shell of Splash Mountain retakes this title.

Fun to think about.

"Fun"

Exactly. It points out what has been done to the parks under the leadership since The Disney Decade.

 

[DCBaker]

Not according to the image of the address on the map. And it didn't say retheme either. Again, that was speculation.

See here - you need to be looking at the RCID map.

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https://rcid.maps.arcgis.com/apps/Solutions/s2.html?appid=ea296a2e5e274cf2856d5cb450c3a96b

 

[LittleBuford]

It was also left to rot, being high maintenance and staffing. So it all circles back to why the people's concerns over PATF are well founded.

I'm not sure I understand the bolded. If Splash Mountain were to experience the same fate as the Great Movie Ride, that would be a good thing, since they successfully replaced the latter with something more popular.

 

[MisterPenguin]

RCID maps are not always correct or trustworthy like other computer maps. I seen this design before, and they are sometimes incorrect. This is one reason why I don't look through computer maps. Those images don't mean anything either. Also, People claim which one is the correct destination, but it would turn wrong sometimes. Sorry.

Google Maps' street address for buildings inside of WDW theme parks is usually way more off than the RCID map ever is.

 

[UNCgolf]

I'm not sure I understand the bolded. If Splash Mountain were to experience the same fate as the Great Movie Ride, that would be a good thing, since they successfully replaced the latter with something more popular.

From a Disney business perspective, sure, but I assume he was talking from an individual fan perspective.

I think MMRR is fine and would have been an excellent addition, but also think it's a significantly worse attraction than GMR. Plus, GMR was like 15 minutes longer than MMRR and I think it had a higher hourly capacity too (at worst they're basically the same). That means it needs to be significantly busier to make up for the overall loss.