News Splash Mountain retheme to Princess and the Frog - Tiana's Bayou Adventure

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Animaniac93-98

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People here are talking about incorporating New Orleans into Frontierland, but what about the Tokyo approach of using New Orleans as a transition between World Bazaar [Main Street] and the rest of Adventureland?

 
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Fox&Hound

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yensidtlaw1969 said:
I took a minute recently and got creative sketching out how I thought Frontierland could be modified to bring some New Orleans flavor into the mix without messing with the main drag. This is roughly what I was picturing in my post early in this thread about pushing out the area beyond the Railroad Tracks and retheming the existing buildings to look like New Orleans, essentially building a Mini Land that is largely separate from the existing Frontierland (though of course the new look of the Mountain will intrude somewhat).

The transition happens as you move under the Train Station, the outdoor queue for Splash/PATF winds through a "park" in "New Orleans" with streetlamps throughout, jazz floating through the air, and appropriate-looking buildings on every side. Move the current Restrooms at the Splash Exit and build Tiana's Palace as a table service Restaurant in that area, with a window next door serving hot Beignets for maximum effect. That way you get a whole New Orleans mini-land out of the deal, Tiana's Restaurant would be right there as you get off the ride, and most of it is cordoned off from the Old-West stylings of Frontierland.

Not to scale, of course, but you get the idea:

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Oh my gosh!!!!! This is breath taking. It is so beautiful and warm and full of life. Wow! I could look at that all day. Wow- you are extremely talented.
 
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Kate F said:
Hey, everyday people reading this thread right now. Join the Save Splash Mountain Facebook Group. Nearing 1,000 members.
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I’ll join the group. That said I’m not as worried about losing the SoTS theme to be honest as I am about this being a cheap reskinning in light of 1) COVID; 2) Chapek being Chapek; and 3) the veil of wokeness being used as a “criticism shield” to disguise the fact that corners were/are being cut.

I hope at the very least if TWDC sees there is resistance to this project among fans they will at least put the necessary funds into making this a worthy replacement to the original and/or delay the project as long as possible unless/until they can allocate said funding.
 
Kate F

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yensidtlaw1969 said:
I took a minute recently and got creative sketching out how I thought Frontierland could be modified to bring some New Orleans flavor into the mix without messing with the main drag. This is roughly what I was picturing in my post early in this thread about pushing out the area beyond the Railroad Tracks and retheming the existing buildings to look like New Orleans, essentially building a Mini Land that is largely separate from the existing Frontierland (though of course the new look of the Mountain will intrude somewhat).

The transition happens as you move under the Train Station, the outdoor queue for Splash/PATF winds through a "park" in "New Orleans" with streetlamps throughout, jazz floating through the air, and appropriate-looking buildings on every side. Move the current Restrooms at the Splash Exit and build Tiana's Palace as a table service Restaurant in that area, with a window next door serving hot Beignets for maximum effect. That way you get a whole New Orleans mini-land out of the deal, Tiana's Restaurant would be right there as you get off the ride, and most of it is cordoned off from the Old-West stylings of Frontierland.

Not to scale, of course, but you get the idea:

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Forgive me for wandering into some serious Armchair Imagineering territory!
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Look, this is nice and all but...could you move it over to New Fantasyland which people consider underwhelming and that way Tiana won’t be separated from the rest of the princesses?
 
WondersOfLife

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lilypgirl said:
I am / was. I found it a few weeks ago dirty , drab and honestly boring. Sometimes things just need to change.
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You lost me at boring. I’m okay with the redo as long as it’s good. But the ride in its current form is definitely not boring. It is one of the all time best storytelling achievements ever created by Disney.

What makes you think a ride themed to PatF in a SWAMP is going to look any cleaner? Also, you described it as “drab” which means dull.

Im actually convinced that you’ve either 1). Never ridden the ride 2). You’re here to troll 3). You just want to be quirky.

All respect is shot out the window. It’s okay to be like “I personally don’t like A B and C about this ride.” It’s okay to say you’re looking forward to the change. But saying “it’s boring” to a ride that constantly builds up suspense, have a thrilling drop, and dozens and dozens of animatronics & details every second on the ride? That’s just a completely ignorant statement and literally makes you lose all credibility for any future argument.

Adieu.
 
yensidtlaw1969

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Kate F said:
Look, this is nice and all but...could you move it over to New Fantasyland which people consider underwhelming and that way Tiana won’t be separated from the rest of the princesses?
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Well . . . um . . . #NailedIt? 😜

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yensidtlaw1969

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IMDREW said:
Actually, a big E-ticket ride there would definitely NOT be the worst!
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Back before New Fantasyland I was pulling for a Mary Poppins mega-dark ride. Now I'm pulling for a modified version of the Beauty and the Beast ride from Tokyo - The exterior would need to be reworked since The Beast's Castle is already spoken for in the Fantasyland skyline . . . but if you just scoot the restrooms in Belle's Village and put the entrance back there?

Though obviously I'm beginning to show my hand as someone who wants all restrooms moved to make way for new expansion. And perhaps wandering a bit off topic.
 
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WondersOfLife said:
You lost me at boring. I’m okay with the redo as long as it’s good. But the ride in its current form is definitely not boring. It is one of the all time best storytelling achievements ever created by Disney.

What makes you think a ride themed to PatF in a SWAMP is going to look any cleaner? Also, you described it as “drab” which means dull.

Im actually convinced that you’ve either 1). Never ridden the ride 2). You’re here to troll 3). You just want to be quirky.

All respect is shot out the window. It’s okay to be like “I personally don’t like A B and C about this ride.” It’s okay to say you’re looking forward to the change. But saying “it’s boring” to a ride that constantly builds up suspense, have a thrilling drop, and dozens and dozens of animatronics & details every second on the ride? That’s just a completely ignorant statement and literally makes you lose all credibility for any future argument.

Adieu.
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Boy what self righteous over the top comment this is. First off all I am fully aware of what the word drab means so need to point that out to me. I actually have ridden the ride several dozen times and normally it is a family favorite. This past trip it was all the those things I described. It is in dire need of some help and well IMOP a new story/ theme. Same thing with COP which is my all time favorite but I honestly felt like I needed a bath upon leaving the theater. It was disgusting . Seats were stained up, carpet was gross, the ceiling tiles over the right side facing the stage in the opening room were orange and looked to be about to cave in, and audio was completely off in some scenes. It too needs a complete overhaul. Change is often necessary and can be good. Also I would not be calling people ignorant when you are the one ready to go to blows with someone on a chat board because they feel the overhaul of your favorite theme park ride could be a good thing.
 
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yensidtlaw1969 said:
Well . . . um . . . #NailedIt? 😜

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I think the main utilidor entrance is there and can't be blocked...
Look the ride already exists...they are not going to move it... The idea of a New Orleans mini land, courtyard is a good solution... I would go further and change the theming beginning at the gateway to Adventureland...that whole side of Pecos Bill and the Golden Oak Outpost kiosk thing.. building some New Orleans style flair, then fully realize it within the courtyard area of the ride... I KNOW that New Orleans doesn't fit the old west... But neither did rural Georgia...so relax on all of that...and remember that the romantic New Orleans style architecture did exist in the same time frame of the Old West... (i know PATF is set in the 20s...I was thinking of architectural bridges to story telling) All in all, though it is not optimal, if done right it really is not that bad an idea...and I am a true fan of Splash.
Now let's concentrate on getting "Be Our Guest" gutted and replaced by the BATB ride they are building for Tokyo...and while they are at it, just replace Pecos Bill's with Tiana's Palace already...
 
WondersOfLife

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lilypgirl said:
Boy what self righteous over the top comment this is. First off all I am fully aware of what the word drab means so need to point that out to me. I actually have ridden the ride several dozen times and normally it is a family favorite. This past trip it was all the those things I described. It is in dire need of some help and well IMOP a new story/ theme. Same thing with COP which is my all time favorite but I honestly felt like I needed a bath upon leaving the theater. It was disgusting . Seats were stained up, carpet was gross, the ceiling tiles over the right side facing the stage in the opening room were orange and looked to be about to cave in, and audio was completely off in some scenes. It too needs a complete overhaul. Change is often necessary and can be good. Also I would not be calling people ignorant when you are the one ready to go to blows with someone on a chat board because they feel the overhaul of your favorite theme park ride could be a good thing.
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I dont personally care about “this past trip” you took. Because like I said, I literally rode the attraction yesterday and there were several upon several effects working that hadn’t been in many years. Even the bouncing brer was working. Very proud of the maintenance on this attraction. So everything you pointed out means nothing to me because it was blown out of proportion.

COP? Yea, that attraction needs a LOT of work. Between Splash and COP, COP is the one that needs a redo. Splash is fine and in pretty darn good shape.
 
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