Surferboy567
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Yeah, I realize it doesn’t fit maybe that specific spot but it does belong SOMEWHERE in WDW. It’s my favorite classic Disney film.
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News Splash Mountain retheme to Princess and the Frog - Tiana's Bayou Adventure
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Yeah, I realize it doesn’t fit maybe that specific spot but it does belong SOMEWHERE in WDW. It’s my favorite classic Disney film.
Brer Oswald
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It definitely does. If not Adventureland though, I’m not sure where. Epcot? Hollywood Studios?
Surferboy567
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You could make a small case for Morocco in Epcot. It’s better then what is there now...nothing.
tirian
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I’ll post my reply in the “political” thread and tag you to make sure you see it.
Brer Oswald
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“Splash Mountain features important characters from Black American Folklore. After much deliberation, we’ve realized it would be a disservice to completely remove this tribute to important heritage. As the world situation improves, we will continue to develop more stories with diverse backgrounds into our films and theme parks. We will also look for a more appropriate way to bring Tiana and her friends to Walt Disney World. The Princess and the Frog makeover of Splash Mountain will still proceed in Disneyland when the time is right.”
RSoxNo1
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Oh, I'm getting rid of VillageHaus is well to solve the Beauty and the Beast problem. I'm perfectly content with Tangled being the Snuggly Duckling Restaurant with no attraction. I'm with you that Tangled was "meh" but the Snuggly Duckling was the best part of that movie.
Brer Oswald
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Maybe it is the best part of the movie. I’m not entirely sure. I fell asleep both times I watched it.
MerlinTheGoat
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I didn't like Tangled either, but I actually do think it could make an excellent ride. Just because a movie is bad doesn't mean a ride based on it is going to also be bad. And likewise not all good movies sound like good ride concepts.
For example, I absolutely adore Ratatouille. But I never thought it would lend itself well to a ride format. It has an incredible story and characters, but the environments aren't very visually interesting. It's predominantly quite bland industrial kitchens and other ordinary looking buildings (only with some brief flashes of more classical Parisian architecture). Ratatouille is a movie I love watching, but had no interest whatsoever in seeing adapted into a theme park environment. And as it turns out, the ride confirmed my assumptions. There are plenty of Disney movies that I really love but don't think have much potential as rides.
On the opposite side of the coin, I dislike Tangled and don't like revisiting its story. But visually I think it lends itself VERY well to a theme park ride. It has lovely environments. If given to talented imagineers with a good budget, it could be an incredible ride. They're currently building a Tangled ride at Tokyo Disneysea as part of the Fantasy Springs expansion. It's a boat ride with a relatively smallish show building (38,900 reportedly, similar to Epcot's Mexico ride, but I dunno how many levels it has or if there are any drops). So it doesn't seem like a full-on E ticket. Even still, the Asian parks often get assigned larger budgets and far more talented imagineers than the other parks, so hopefully it'll be a fun little ride regardless. We'll see.
Avatar turned out to be a similar situation to how I feel about Tangled. I don't like the movie at all but the visuals were gorgeous and lent themselves well to a theme park experience if well executed. And thankfully the land ended up being gorgeous as well. I have some issues with the rides, but that's largely because I don't care for simulators and the over saturation of video screens in modern rides. And consider the boat ride too short and lacking in animatronics. Not really the IP's fault though, there's still a ton to love about the land as a whole.
For example, I absolutely adore Ratatouille. But I never thought it would lend itself well to a ride format. It has an incredible story and characters, but the environments aren't very visually interesting. It's predominantly quite bland industrial kitchens and other ordinary looking buildings (only with some brief flashes of more classical Parisian architecture). Ratatouille is a movie I love watching, but had no interest whatsoever in seeing adapted into a theme park environment. And as it turns out, the ride confirmed my assumptions. There are plenty of Disney movies that I really love but don't think have much potential as rides.
On the opposite side of the coin, I dislike Tangled and don't like revisiting its story. But visually I think it lends itself VERY well to a theme park ride. It has lovely environments. If given to talented imagineers with a good budget, it could be an incredible ride. They're currently building a Tangled ride at Tokyo Disneysea as part of the Fantasy Springs expansion. It's a boat ride with a relatively smallish show building (38,900 reportedly, similar to Epcot's Mexico ride, but I dunno how many levels it has or if there are any drops). So it doesn't seem like a full-on E ticket. Even still, the Asian parks often get assigned larger budgets and far more talented imagineers than the other parks, so hopefully it'll be a fun little ride regardless. We'll see.
Avatar turned out to be a similar situation to how I feel about Tangled. I don't like the movie at all but the visuals were gorgeous and lent themselves well to a theme park experience if well executed. And thankfully the land ended up being gorgeous as well. I have some issues with the rides, but that's largely because I don't care for simulators and the over saturation of video screens in modern rides. And consider the boat ride too short and lacking in animatronics. Not really the IP's fault though, there's still a ton to love about the land as a whole.
Found these photos of a Tangled Overlay for Splash. Wonder how close we were to getting this instead of PATF
Haymarket2008
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These are fan made and are not legitimate. Also Tangled does not have a shred of a tie to Frontierland.
Also why is there a river in the middle of Rapunzel’s tower?
Gotcha.
FettFan
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Or a Villains dark ride.
I’m still salty over losing SWSA.
I still think my Tom Sawyer Island -> Ile D’Orleans plan would be a great addition to Magic Kingdom.
Brand new land, plenty of space to build a Louisiana Bayou walk-thru, a PATF ride, Tiana’s Palace restaurant, and plenty of street food stalls/counter service.
tirian
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Maybe it’s time to dust off the plans for Villain Mt. and put it in Germany at Epcot, and just say it’s close enough because Grimm Fairy Tales.Or a Villains dark ride.
I’m still salty over losing SWSA.
I still think my Tom Sawyer Island -> Ile D’Orleans plan would be a great addition to Magic Kingdom.
Brand new land, plenty of space to build a Louisiana Bayou walk-thru, a PATF ride, Tiana’s Palace restaurant, and plenty of street food stalls/counter service.
Brer Panther
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Ugh, I love Tangled but that would've been even worse than a Princess and the Frog retheme. Wouldn't have fit in Critter Country or Frontierland in the slightest.
Brer Oswald
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Villains ride will go in Mansion. Trust me.Or a Villains dark ride.
I’m still salty over losing SWSA.
I still think my Tom Sawyer Island -> Ile D’Orleans plan would be a great addition to Magic Kingdom.
Brand new land, plenty of space to build a Louisiana Bayou walk-thru, a PATF ride, Tiana’s Palace restaurant, and plenty of street food stalls/counter service.
MerlinTheGoat
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Higher res versions of those images are here (presumably the source)-
You can easily tell they're fake in the higher res versions. Amusingly there's a mixture of elements that wouldn't be bad ideas in an original non-overlay Tangled ride, but there's also lazy empty cheapness that reminds me of official Disney concept art (like Frozen at Epcot).
A couple of the individual scenes actually do look like what i'd want out of a Tangled ride (if it was a new ride, not an overlay of another attraction). The Snuggly Ducking musical scene (though i'm sure they'd never put this many animatronics in an attraction these days), a trip through the colorful sun festival village (though without the jumping fountains and with characters), and even both scenes where Flynn Rider is running from the guards and Maximus.
That said, the rest of the images mostly look like the sort of laziness i'd expect out of a modern Disney overlay like Frozenstrom. Copy/pasted insertions of random characters into random scenes. Multiple empty looking rooms and lift hills with flat wallpapered walls and just Rapunzel's hair draped over some wooden beams.
Tangled Ride
Disney's Tangled layover Splash Mountain at Magic Kingdom Park. Each new scene was created to fit the existing track, replacing the existing set with the new story. Scad 2016.
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You can easily tell they're fake in the higher res versions. Amusingly there's a mixture of elements that wouldn't be bad ideas in an original non-overlay Tangled ride, but there's also lazy empty cheapness that reminds me of official Disney concept art (like Frozen at Epcot).
A couple of the individual scenes actually do look like what i'd want out of a Tangled ride (if it was a new ride, not an overlay of another attraction). The Snuggly Ducking musical scene (though i'm sure they'd never put this many animatronics in an attraction these days), a trip through the colorful sun festival village (though without the jumping fountains and with characters), and even both scenes where Flynn Rider is running from the guards and Maximus.
That said, the rest of the images mostly look like the sort of laziness i'd expect out of a modern Disney overlay like Frozenstrom. Copy/pasted insertions of random characters into random scenes. Multiple empty looking rooms and lift hills with flat wallpapered walls and just Rapunzel's hair draped over some wooden beams.
FettFan
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Maybe it’s time to dust off the plans for Villain Mt. and put it in Germany at Epcot, and just say it’s close enough because Grimm Fairy Tales.
For the Germany Pavilion, I’d rather have an original ride based on the tale of Saint George and the Dragon.
St. George and the Dragon - who was he, and why is he in Epcot’s Germany pavilion?
In the middle of the Germany pavilion in Epcot stands a fountain with a statue of St. George slaying a dragon. Learn the legend behind this piece of art.
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ImperfectPixie
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In your opinion.
MickeyMouse10
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It's not an opinion, it is a fact.
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