News Splash Mountain retheme to Princess and the Frog - Tiana's Bayou Adventure

[EagleScout610]

I'm reminded of The Simpsons' "Poochie" episode, where they try so hard to please everyone and check a bunch of boxes that they come up with something undeniably lame.

"I must go now. My Bayou needs me"

 

[donaldtoo]

and convoluted

Too funny, as that’s the word I was actually gonna’ go with first, and then changed my mind…although, I was actually gonna’ post both, but, decided to keep it to one word…!!!!!
Either way, the whole storyline is a mess, IMO anyway.

 

[Incomudro]

Taking bets on whether the “missing ingredient” turns out to be “soul” and/or “love”

"YOU were the missing ingredient all along!"

 

[donaldtoo]

I'm reminded of The Simpsons' "Poochie" episode, where they try so hard to please everyone and check a bunch of boxes that they come up with something undeniably lame.

Yep, nothin’ but a shoehorned joke.

 

[GhostHost1000]

"YOU were the missing ingredient all along!"

I’m starting to think the missing ingredient now adays is good Disney management choices

 

[Incomudro]

I’m still going to give imagineering the benefit of the doubt. This must be PR driven and not imagineering given the topics they’ve chosen to focus on. PR isn’t motivated by our experience, it’s the company’s image that is their priority.

Their PR has been odd for a while now. They have been reactionary and sometimes actively hostile towards fans and some news websites. They’ve been unable to navigate any controversy without alienating large swaths of fans and creating enemies. It’s just one misstep after another.

If this makeover succeeds, it's going to succeed in spite of the story - not because of it.
Hopefully the visuals will be attractive enough.

 

[Comped]

So the food co-op is a treasured meeting place for the community? Also hot sauce will be in the gift shop right? Seems odd to mention she's famous for the hot sauce.

Or a popcorn bucket shaped like a hot sauce bottle...

Two things strike me about what they have announced. I feel it's ultimately counter-productive to hit people over the head like this by specifying the corporate structure of her company, that she's empowering women, etc. I don't know why they can't just let her story be empowering for women, for example, rather that explicitly stating it.

The other thing that strikes me is that I get the impression they're working against the ride system in the same way they twisted themselves in knots to explain a mountain in Louisiana. I know we've been over this, but I think they have to downplay the thrill element of the ride to better accommodate the IP and its target audience. That would explain why everything sounds very low-stakes, unlike the way in which Splash sought to build tension as you went up the lift-hill.

While I absolutely agree - I feel like this will be queue dressing at best. Unless it's going to be a really terrible attraction. Some commentators have noted that the strange lack of stakes might be the case of Disney trying to replicate the low stakes of RSR at DCA. I disagree...

• How many employee owned cooperatives were there in 1927 and did they identify themselves as such
• Would anyone in 1927 described any brand as beloved
• Can vegetables herbs and spices even grow in the soil surrounding a salt dome
• A teaching kitchen, how modern of Tiana
• Can’t wait to see what the local artisans have made for us. Fine art gallery + salt mine = success
• I’d like a fresh beignet not one squirreled away in a crate
• I love hanging out at my favorite local industrial site
• What company was holding cooking classes in the 1930s
• I finally understand the water tower, it’s to make the salt dome look smaller

They grounded this thing in so much “realism” but then we’re about to encounter talking alligators and musical animals. Did tiana grow us some special herbs?

• Absolutely. Standard advertising tactic.
• Probably not as many as they'd like, especially with salt permeating everything.
• Not exactly anachronistic though.
• Don't forget retail location and restaurant!
• Who stores them in crates anyway? They're supposed to be fresh! She surely would know that!
• Local industrial site/art gallery/retail location/restaurant/community gathering place.
• You'd be surprised.
• God the scale will suck...

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God every time I see this art it weirds me out.Honestly they all look like Tiana in a horrifying way, less like "Tiana's family" and more "Tiana's horrible cloning accident"

If I were a betting man, I'd say Disney has a few new face characters for M&Gs. Maybe...

God this photo is extremely telling. Off-model and poorly drawn characters are in focus in the foreground, while the ACTUAL ATTRACTION is a featureless blurry blob of grays.

On purpose, it seems...

Hot sauce in a popcorn bucket

Or as a popcorn bucket.

 

[Scuttle]

I'm reminded of The Simpsons' "Poochie" episode, where they try so hard to please everyone and check a bunch of boxes that they come up with something undeniably lame.

Add the fall of WDI to the list of Simpsons accurately predicting the future.

 

[MLeota18]

I know they promoted the ride concept originally with clips of imagineers visiting New Orleans to learn about the culture for inspiration. This sounds like they went out in teams to different areas and were told to incorporate every aspect into a ride concept. "Okay, so let's combine the art gallery with the information we got from the hot sauce tour and man, I'm just glad we found a mountain type structure in Louisiana. Salt is important for cooking and Tiana is a cook, so BAM, let's make it happen people. Oh wait, Mardi Gras. We have to include something about Mardi Gras too because who doesn't like Mardi Gras. PARTY!"

 

[Fox&Hound]

Maybe this will end up like Flight of Passage. An awesome ride with way too convoluted of a backstory. Every time I ride it I am like “shhhhh” during the pre-show. Just let me ride the banshee!

But test track 2.0 does not inspire faith. Nor does Soarin 2.0 or even Guardians. TT 2.0 is souless and nowhere near as fun as the crash test dummies. Soarin 2.0 is all CGI and even Guardians IMHO is fun but a narrative mess. The ride is so fast it is difficult to know what is going on.

If the ride is horrible maybe backlash would be enough for a Dr Facillier halloween overlay that eventually is permanent?!? Although come to think of it I would kind of love if all of this is a PR stunt and their plan all around is to have this safe, boring tour go wrong with Dr. F!

 

[Trauma]

I honestly don’t know and my google searches aren’t helping.

Are salt mines actually spaces that get repurposed?

 

[LittleBuford]

And just like that our conversation is gone like a fart in the wind. Now I remember why I hadn’t been here in years.

To be fair, it was off-topic. We took the risk of deletion when we decided to engage in such a conversation. I can’t fault the moderators, who do a great (and thankless) job overall.

 

[Drdcm]

The nature of this re-theme makes it tough to stay within the community guidelines because it rides that fine line of social commentary unfortunately

 

[mightynine]

While the...background? details? of what was released all sounds very nice., like I said previously, if this was being used for the inspiration of a new community program funded by Disney for co-op kitchens and companies and supporting women of color in that effort (honestly, I can see that show on Disney+), it works and sounds great. It just doesn't work, to me, as the building blocks for a ride experience.

On top of that, everything else just feels like someone filled the rest of the details with "New Orleans" and "Louisiana" keywords - Beignets! Bayou! Mardi Gras! - that don't feel in any way authentic like the movie did. PatF was very much a love letter to New Orleans, this feels like someone watched the movie, went to Wikipedia, and connected dots that don't really work.

It does not come across as something from a creative endeavor but rather a corporate endeavor. That's not good! Know your audience!

 

[Disney Rocks]

I'm really not a fan of the "Help the characters do X"-type of story in a theme park ride. Yes, it's an attempt to be immersive and create a first-person narrative for riders...but they're strapped into a ride vehicle and have no agency in how the experience plays out. I guess it just comes off as kind of silly to me. Haunted Mansion or even Frozen Ever After work far better as first-person stories because we are asked to only be tourists and observe while things happen to us.

 

[Scuttle]

The nature of this re-theme makes it tough to stay within the community guidelines because it rides that fine line of social commentary unfortunately

Exactly, I’d expect some understanding from the mods in this special case. We’re talking about one of the most popular attractions in Orlando.

 

[mightynine]

Exactly, I’d expect some understanding from the mods in this special case. We’re talking about one of the most popular attractions in Orlando.

Notice what was whacked. Keep the W-word out of the conversation and you'll likely be fine.

 

[mysto]

Spicy Louisiana style special edition cupcakes! Spicy popcorn in a must have bucket!

I'm certain this will be a "hit". Maybe not with parks fans who've ridden the original but a hit. I think this plot is OK and great execution may really make it work, but still not as fun as the original so far. It'll probably grow on us.

I wonder if Pecos Bill's will become Tiana's Palace? Apologies if someone already proposed that somewhere.

I like hot sauce.

 

[Scuttle]

Another one of my harmless comments was deleted. I’m outta here. I forgot why I left these forums years back.

 

[LittleBuford]

Exactly, I’d expect some understanding from the mods in this special case. We’re talking about one of the most popular attractions in Orlando.

We were talking about Breaking Bad, for goodness’ sake! Let’s not pretend the moderators stifled some super relevant and insightful discussion.