News Splash Mountain retheme to Princess and the Frog - Tiana's Bayou Adventure

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Animaniac93-98

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I don't know how someone can watch The Princess and the Frog and have their main takeaway not be the visuals, the music, the humor, the characters, the morals etc...but "Tiana is a woman who owns a business! What a #girlboss"

I mean, yes, that is true, but her being a workaholic at the expense of friends and family wasn't framed in a good light in the actual movie.
 

Tha Realest

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The backstory does read like bad fan fiction.
This goes back to my point that I’ve not yet seen any indication that WDI’s best and brightest are working on this. There’s a deft way to weave a message (or messages) within a compelling narrative. Other than a grab bag of laudable goals, it’s very unclear to see how this presents a compelling narrative within the parameters of the existing ride structure.
 

Drdcm

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I’m still going to give imagineering the benefit of the doubt. This must be PR driven and not imagineering given the topics they’ve chosen to focus on. PR isn’t motivated by our experience, it’s the company’s image that is their priority.

Their PR has been odd for a while now. They have been reactionary and sometimes actively hostile towards fans and some news websites. They’ve been unable to navigate any controversy without alienating large swaths of fans and creating enemies. It’s just one misstep after another.
 

Tom Morrow

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Just reading that thing, you can imagine the levels of focus grouping that every element of that backstory went through to try and please everyone.

-She's a capitalist...but she gives back to her community!
-She's a strong, independent woman...but she also lets her employees co-own and help run the business!
-People might complain that Louisiana doesn't have mountains...let's invent an overly-elaborate salt mine backstory!
-People, understandably, didn't like how Tiana was a frog for most of the movie...let's keep a rigid sequel timeline so we can't bring back Facilier or Ray!
-People, understandably, want the first black princess to be a good role model...let's give her an additional 1,200 businesses to run since just the one from the movie, which she fought to open in the middle of the Jim Crow-era, might not be feminist enough.

Guys...just send us through the environments from the film but keep Tiana human this time. This didn't need to be hard. You didn't feel the need to give an overly-elaborate backstory to the Seven Dwarfs Mine Train or Frozen Ever After.

I'm reminded of The Simpsons' "Poochie" episode, where they try so hard to please everyone and check a bunch of boxes that they come up with something undeniably lame.
 

GhostHost1000

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I’m still going to give imagineering the benefit of the doubt. This must be PR driven and not imagineering given the topics they’ve chosen to focus on. PR isn’t motivated by our experience, it’s the company’s image that is their priority.

Their PR has been odd for a while now. They have been reactionary and sometimes actively hostile towards fans and some news websites. They’ve been unable to navigate any controversy without alienating large swaths of fans and creating enemies. It’s just one misstep after another.
I think the (poor) decision to replace Splash was PR driven, but the attraction story and components are likely imagineering. I cannot give them a pass on that.

I have a bad feeling the forced things happening with this attraction are going to cause this replacement of splash to fail both with fans online and it may not even be as popular to guests in the park as splash was
 

Tha Realest

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I'm reminded of The Simpsons' "Poochie" episode, where they try so hard to please everyone and check a bunch of boxes that they come up with something undeniably lame.
Again, some of our greatest works of art manage to balance multiple meta commentaries and do so within a compelling narrative. It can be done. It has been done with diverse casts. It just feels like this was workshopped to death to include those things you list, AND tie it in to a try to be released D+ series, AND had to hew to an existing and difficult to reengineer ride system.
 

Animaniac93-98

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I’m still going to give imagineering the benefit of the doubt. This must be PR driven and not imagineering given the topics they’ve chosen to focus on.

A one minute YouTube video of an Imagineer showing off work on one of the AAs for the ride would have been far more interesting and done a better job getting people excited for the attraction.

When promoting a ride, people want to hear about the actual ride, not a fictitious brand of hot sauce.
 

Tha Realest

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I think the (poor) decision to replace Splash was PR driven, but the attraction story and components are likely imagineering. I cannot give them a pass on that.

I have a bad feeling the forced things happening with this attraction are going to cause this replacement of splash to fail both with fans online and it may not even be as popular to guests in the park as splash was
Yep. PR’s job is to highlight and magnify what Imagineers create, not the other way around.

Again, the decision to drop this news late on a Friday was a choice. Whether that choice was driven by basic marketing incompetence or embarrassment is anyone’s guess.
 

Drdcm

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Yep. PR’s job is to highlight and magnify what Imagineers create, not the other way around.

Again, the decision to drop this news late on a Friday was a choice. Whether that choice was driven by basic marketing incompetence or embarrassment is anyone’s guess.
That’s my point though. I get the sense that PR is making the demands and dictating the message, and imagineering have to figure out how to make it work within PR demands. Essentially, this is a mess because they’re doing the opposite of what they should be doing make a good ride.
 

GhostHost1000

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Yep. PR’s job is to highlight and magnify what Imagineers create, not the other way around.

Again, the decision to drop this news late on a Friday was a choice. Whether that choice was driven by basic marketing incompetence or embarrassment is anyone’s guess.
They more stuff they add to the construction walls the more confusion there has been, so they release this story to uh “explain” it all which now just leads us to more questions about what the heck are they really doing
 

Tha Realest

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That’s my point though. I get the sense that PR is making the demands and dictating the message, and imagineering have to figure out how to make it work within PR demands. Essentially, this is a mess because they’re doing the opposite of what they should be doing make a good ride.
i think this is about as far as we can go to discuss these matters, but I am in complete agreement with you. The ride experience seems to be an afterthought.
 

donaldtoo

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Disney has shared new details on the storyline for Tiana's Bayou Adventure -

At a young age, Tiana developed a deep passion for cooking, and began to dream of one day owning her own business. Her father, James, taught her that good food brings folks together. One of the most exciting parts of Tiana’s Bayou Adventure is that we’re going to see where Tiana’s life has taken her following the success of Tiana’s Palace, a restaurant she had dreamed of owning and worked so hard to make come true.

Walt Disney Imagineering is creating an original, next chapter story for Tiana. Within the attraction queue, guests will discover that she continues to grow her business with Tiana’s Foods – an employee-owned cooperative. Combining her talents with those of the local community, Tiana has transformed an aging salt mine and built a beloved brand.

Tiana family photo in front of new Tiana's Foods water tower's Foods water tower


The endeavor began when Tiana purchased the salt mine and the area surrounding the large salt dome it operated from. With the help of her mother Eudora, Naveen, Louis and fellow owners of the cooperative, Tiana revived the old salt mine and the surrounding land, growing a wide array of vegetables, herbs and spices for her recipes.

This multi-faceted enterprise has turned the aging salt mine into a space that has come alive. Complete with a boutique farm and both a working and teaching kitchen, Tiana’s Foods is where Tiana and her colleagues create all sorts of new products that they are bringing to the world, including a line of original hot sauces.

Tiana's Foods Original Hot Sauce Label Logo's Foods Original Hot Sauce Label Logo


Tiana wants to give a big thanks to her family and friends and the entire community for all the support they’ve given her by throwing an amazing party during Mardi Gras season. When it turns out there’s been a bit of a mix–up with the party preparations, Tiana invites us to meet her at Tiana’s Foods to help with the missing ingredient for the party.

When we arrive, we may see that Tiana spruced up the company’s facilities with vibrant art from local artists. Food for the party is being prepared and beignets are being loaded into crates for the celebration. All kinds of preparations are underway for the journey into the bayou with Tiana, along with new and familiar friends from the animated film.

Picking up where that story left off, Tiana continues bringing people together with Tiana’s Foods, another treasured meeting place to spend time together and celebrate a diverse community. Tiana is also working with cooperative members to teach gardening and cooking to children of all ages, and inspiring other women to run successful businesses as the brand grows nationwide.

Continue following along with the Disney Parks Blog for updates relating to Tiana’s Bayou Adventure, as it makes its way to Walt Disney World Resort and Disneyland Resort in 2024.


The word contrived comes to mind.
 
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