News Splash Mountain retheme to Princess and the Frog - Tiana's Bayou Adventure

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Castle Cake Apologist

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yensidtlaw1969 said:
I happen to think there's some interesting potential for an Interactive Queue at the Mansion, but what was built is overly cartoonish, noisy, and out of step with the ride it precedes.
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Even worse, it breaks the established logic of the ride in an obnoxious way. The ghosts aren't able to fully manifest until Leota does her thing, but here they are, before we even enter the house, reciting poetry and sneezing and blowing bubbles. Within the logic of the attraction, before the Seance Room, the spirits are only able to manipulate the environment around them, not directly interact with us. We're also supposed to think that they might be a threat to us until we see the beginnings of the Swinging Wake in the Ballroom, yet in the queue they're already playful and fun.

Then there's the obvious design flaws, like the fact that there's no room for a body under the tombstones in the queue. The whole thing is just bad.

Not to further derail, but here's an excellent piece on the interactive queue and the damage it does to the attraction's story:
longforgottenhauntedmansion.blogspot.com

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. In March and April of this year (2011), major additions came to the WDW Mansion. Since this is the first time a big change has occurred ...
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GoneForGood

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A random thought:
I've heard people saying that Splash is very hard to maintain. Which explains it's current condition.
For me, that begs the question. Will they bite the bullet and suddenly turn that attitude around for the PATF version? Or will they make changes to the attraction and show building to make it easier to maintain. Or just remove certain AAs and swap in screens/projection mapping to make it easier?

The way they maintain the current version scares me enough.
 
UNCgolf

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Lil Copter Cap said:
That's a fair assessment, absolutely. Not to say there AREN'T bad apples that have made their way into the offices of Imagineering.

The reported $450 million, however, leads me to believe that OTHER projects were partially funded through this Guardians budget. I think of how the film industry will take money from a production to fund another production simultaneously. Disney does/did this specifically with their films and Disney+ projects. And, in my opinion, one of the exact reasons why Bob Chapek has placed Kareem Daniel as THE centralized budget manager going forward. [source: CNBC]

I know film/TV is a different beast...but that's the only way I can justify their reported over bloated budget.
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It's possible, but that would be easier to believe if it wasn't happening on basically every project. They supposedly spent over $100M on the Little Mermaid almost a decade ago and that ride looks like it was done as cheaply as possible other than the queue/facade.
 
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Kirby86

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BrerCountry said:
A random thought:
I've heard people saying that Splash is very hard to maintain. Which explains it's current condition.
For me, that begs the question. Will they bite the bullet and suddenly turn that attitude around for the PATF version? Or will they make changes to the attraction and show building to make it easier to maintain. Or just remove certain AAs and swap in screens/projection mapping to make it easier?

The way they maintain the current version scares me enough.
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Seeing as how maintenance for attractions as a whole is less then steller and not just a Splash issue. I'm assuming it'll still be in rough shape after a bit.
 
Incomudro

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BrerCountry said:
A random thought:
I've heard people saying that Splash is very hard to maintain. Which explains it's current condition.
For me, that begs the question. Will they bite the bullet and suddenly turn that attitude around for the PATF version? Or will they make changes to the attraction and show building to make it easier to maintain. Or just remove certain AAs and swap in screens/projection mapping to make it easier?

The way they maintain the current version scares me enough.
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I'm betting on the second unfortuantely.
I'd love to be wrong, but the way they run things lately - I can't see them keeping the majority of those AA's, getting them working, and keeping them working.
That just doesn't seem to be the way they do things now.
I'm of the belief they will slash half the AA's, or keepthem in a smi static mode, add screans, and an excellent Tiana AA.
 
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Vegas Disney Fan

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Animaniac93-98 said:
It took Disney the better part of 2 years to turn Maelstrom into Frozen.

If they close it early 2023 I could see a late 2024 opening...maybe.
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The one thing Splash/Frog might have going for it is I think they’ll want it open for the hot summer months.

I won’t be surprised if it takes them 2 full years but I also wouldn’t be surprised to see them doing everything possible to have it open by summer crowds 24.
 
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BrerCountry said:
A random thought:
I've heard people saying that Splash is very hard to maintain. Which explains it's current condition.
For me, that begs the question. Will they bite the bullet and suddenly turn that attitude around for the PATF version? Or will they make changes to the attraction and show building to make it easier to maintain. Or just remove certain AAs and swap in screens/projection mapping to make it easier?

The way they maintain the current version scares me enough.
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Part of this redo may address some of the issues, as I believe at Disneyland specifically some maintenance can only be done during a full shut down of the attraction, due to lack of access.

I would hope they are making maintenance more accessible for overnight work.
 
Sir_Cliff

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BrerCountry said:
A random thought:
I've heard people saying that Splash is very hard to maintain. Which explains it's current condition.
For me, that begs the question. Will they bite the bullet and suddenly turn that attitude around for the PATF version? Or will they make changes to the attraction and show building to make it easier to maintain. Or just remove certain AAs and swap in screens/projection mapping to make it easier?

The way they maintain the current version scares me enough.
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I am also kind of curious how/if they will address the maintenance issues the ride currently faces in Florida as in California the issues are far less obvious. If the main issue in Florida is that they don't want to take it down long enough to fix the relevant issues and park ops basically don't care, then there's really nothing they can do. If there is some issue that comes with AAs & humidity, it would be nice to see them try and resolve that. Unfortunately, I suspect it will be a combination of using less AAs with the excuse that this resolves the maintenance issues and Orlando management doing what Orlando management does once it opens in whatever form that may take.
 
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imagineer97 said:
The wording of Disney's statement really sounds snippy to me. Maybe this is still happening for WDW, but I'll bet they were not happy with this being brought up outside of their own terms.
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This is the vibe I got:
Aniki: *Mentions 2024*
Disney Fans: WRITE THAT DOWN!! WRITE THAT DOWN!!
Disney Scrambling to do damage control:
 
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imagineer97 said:
The wording of Disney's statement really sounds snippy to me. Maybe this is still happening for WDW, but I'll bet they were not happy with this being brought up outside of their own terms.
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They are not having the best run recently. Guardians opening date spilled by their head communications guy, and now this one. This is one of the risks they run when there are projects lingering around for years and years on the sidelines.

I think there is definitely something to be said about how it used to go. Say nothing until construction is underway, and then let us know what is happening, and have a rapid opening within the following 12 to 24 months.
 
Dear Prudence

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Sir_Cliff said:
I am also kind of curious how/if they will address the maintenance issues the ride currently faces in Florida as in California the issues are far less obvious. If the main issue in Florida is that they don't want to take it down long enough to fix the relevant issues and park ops basically don't care, then there's really nothing they can do. If there is some issue that comes with AAs & humidity, it would be nice to see them try and resolve that. Unfortunately, I suspect it will be a combination of using less AAs with the excuse that this resolves the maintenance issues and Orlando management doing what Orlando management does once it opens in whatever form that may take.
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Japan is also humid and has most extreme weather and theirs is maintained, the US parks are just cheap and lazy.
 
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