News Splash Mountain retheme to Princess and the Frog - Tiana's Bayou Adventure

[WDWJoeG]

Anyone who’s seen the movie knows that Splash Mountain is heavily based on the animated sequences. It isn’t just a case of reusing some of the characters; the narratives, too, are imported into the ride.

And? What "narratives" of the Brer Fox, Bear, and Rabbit story concern you?

 

[Californian Elitist]

Anyone who’s seen the movie knows that Splash Mountain is heavily based on the animated sequences. It isn’t just a case of reusing some of the characters; the narratives, too, are imported into the ride.

Yeah. To say that the ride is “completely unrelated” to the movie is disingenuous.

 

[Midwest Elitist]

Yeah. To say that the ride is “completely unrelated” to the movie is disingenuous.

I know we don't agree on everything here (ok, we agree on way to much tbh vs our disagreements) but I appreciate how you keep everything (satis)factual.

Sorry, I just had to.

 

[LittleBuford]

And? What "narratives" of the Brer Fox, Bear, and Rabbit story concern you?

None. That wasn’t my point.

 

[LittleBuford]

Yeah. To say that the ride is “completely unrelated” to the movie is disingenuous.

Absolutely. I have no problem with people wanting to defend the ride, but to claim it has no meaningful connection with the movie is factually untenable.

 

[Brer Oswald]

It’s disingenuous to say that the narratives were created in the movie. They existed long long before. It’s why I’ve suggested several times that they just replace the music and change the designs of the three main characters. If removing all callbacks to SotS is necessary, that’s all that would need to be done.

 

[Californian Elitist]

It’s disingenuous to say that the narratives were created in the movie. They existed long long before. It’s why I’ve suggested several times that they just replace the music and change the designs of the three main characters. If removing all callbacks to SotS is necessary, that’s all that would need to be done.

The ride is still based on SotS.

 

[LittleBuford]

If you want to know my feelings on how the retheme relates to the issues you raise, you can look at my earlier posts in this thread. To summarise, I personally love the current theme and will be sad to see it go, but I also understand why the retheme is happening, think it’s the right course of action all things considered, and am remaining optimistic for the outcome.

As for this current mini-discussion, my sole point was that it is factually and demonstrably untrue that the ride’s relationship with Song of the South is limited to just using some of its characters. I’ve seen the film multiple times (I owned a copy on video as a child in the UK), so I know what I’m talking about.

 

[Dear Prudence]

Happy Friday! I have to say, I do not like the WDW show building of what is supposed to be the "mill" part of the queue for Splash. It looks like a Tough Shed. I do like some of the terrain-exterior, though.

 

[Dear Prudence]

The "Welcome Home, Brer Rabbit" banner is such a cute touch, and I quite like it, even if it doesn't hit me emotionally the way DLR does.

 

[Disney4Lyfe]

Unrelated to the wishy washy element of the flip to PatF....

This ride is in appalling condition. Worst I have ever seen it, and I have ridden it hundreds of times. What the heck is going on?

 

[MickeyMouse10]

Unrelated to the wishy washy element of the flip to PatF....

This ride is in appalling condition. Worst I have ever seen it, and I have ridden it hundreds of times. What the heck is going on?

They're probably just being cheap again. I'm surprised they don't have just stationary mannequins and statues.

 

[Disney4Lyfe]

I am pretty sure the title of this thread reads.... "attraction discussion only"

 

[drizgirl]

Unrelated to the wishy washy element of the flip to PatF....

This ride is in appalling condition. Worst I have ever seen it, and I have ridden it hundreds of times. What the heck is going on?

Probably hoping it gets bad enough that guests demand a change.

 

[Midwest Elitist]

Probably hoping it gets bad enough that guests demand a change.

They actually refurbished Disneyland pretty good though. I think it's just how WDW operates vs Disneyland. Look at the Everest refurb for another example.

 

[Disney4Lyfe]

Am I in the wrong place? Is this about Song of the South, which probably only a handful of you have actually sat through. Or about Splash Mountain? It says in the title, attraction discussion only.

 

[Ghost93]

Am I in the wrong place? Is this about Song of the South, which probably only a handful of you have actually sat through. Or about Splash Mountain? It says in the title, attraction discussion only.

I feel like most people dedicated enough to join a Disney fan forum have managed to see Song of the South if only to see what the big deal is. It was a popular VHS bootleg and nowadays it's VERY easy to find on the Internet.

 

[Disney4Lyfe]

I feel like most people dedicated enough to join a Disney fan forum have managed to see Song of the South if only to see what the big deal is. It was a popular VHS bootleg and nowadays it's VERY easy to find on the Internet.

I have not seen it. No desire to see it. And I quite like Splash Mountain.

 

[Disney4Lyfe]

I think you should watch it, just so you have an informed opinion on it. Internet Archive has a rip of it for free.

I view the movie more as a "why did they do it like this" rather than "OMG these people were so racist" but I can see why people have problems with it (the valid ones, that is. Not the ones like "there's a tar baby").

No thanks! I don't need an informed opinion on a 70 year old movie. It's a product of the time it was made, and that's enough of an informed opinion for me.

 

[MisterPenguin]

I am pretty sure the title of this thread reads.... "attraction discussion only"

This is not about the attraction, but a 500+ word soliloquy about why you think it's racist and what racism is.

Oops, you're right. I deleted my post.