News Splash Mountain retheme to Princess and the Frog - Tiana's Bayou Adventure

[G00fyDad]

Considering millennial era stops in 1996, I’m sure most are them are the ones yelling “that’s not my Star Wars” to the currently represented saga as we at the time hated the prequels and loved the originals as our parents may have even influenced us.
Millennials cannot help help what their children enjoy though. The youngest millennial is turning 26 this year.

Who are these kids you are talking too? Do you consider 26 years old to be a kid or do you have your generations confused? Or am I the lost one? Lol

I'm 50. Maybe I am confused. (Where's my statin meds?) I know that those that grew up when the prequels came out love them and think the originals were garbage. I think the prequels are garbage. We ALL think the sequels are garbage.

They had such potential with the sequels and they took too many suggestions from Lucas. They should have gone with the Timothy Zahn stuff and not de-cannoned the EU.

 

[Dranth]

I struggle to realize why some people in this site get confused when people defend attractions.

It is a Walt Disney World fan site. People here are insanely attached to things and will debate about rides and theories to no end. It is no different than a Harry Potter fandom, or being overly obsessed with football players. It is contentious because this is literally what we do here. Lol. There is no other place for us to debate this kind of stuff with because nobody in the real world cares. So, here we are. A bunch of Disney nuts.

For the record, I disagree about agreeing to disagree. I still think it is ridiculous if someone cannot pick up the plot of Splash Mountain. It is insanely clear.

It is insanely clear to you. Not everyone. It wasn’t to me but to be fair, I never cared to figure it out either.

 

[Dear Prudence]

ANYWAY, what is the best version of Splash Mountain and why is it the original Disneyland? jussstttttt kidding.

Maybe.

 

[BubbaisSleep]

I'm 50. Maybe I am confused. (Where's my statin meds?) I know that those that grew up when the prequels came out love them and think the originals were garbage. I think the prequels are garbage. We ALL think the sequels are garbage.

They had such potential with the sequels and they took too many suggestions from Lucas. They should have gone with the Timothy Zahn stuff and not de-cannoned the EU.

Lol it all gets confusing, I don’t know all the names myself.
I’m a 30 year old millennial and everyone my age and older hated the prequels and loved the original series, largely due to our parents or older siblings/family. The prequels would be my childhood the same as my dad born in 1969 would have the original trilogy be his childhood.

I admittedly am never around kids or people younger than me so I have no idea what kids are saying today but they’re crazy if they don’t care for the OG series.

 

[Brer Oswald]

ANYWAY, what is the best version of Splash Mountain and why is it the original Disneyland? jussstttttt kidding.

Maybe.

The music. And the atmosphere. It’s so unique. I’ve only been on that version once, yet I dream about it all of the time.

 

[Dear Prudence]

The music. And the atmosphere. It’s so unique. I’ve only been on that version once, yet I dream about it all of the time.

While I think that WDW has a way better lead up and chase than Disneyland does (like Brer Fox and Brer Bear chasing Brer Rabbit over the mountain, I wish Disneyland had that so badly), Disneyland reminds me more of the Catfish Bend books, where a lot of inspiration for Disneyland's come from. I just read High Water at Catfish Bend, and I really wish Disney had done something with this that included the Brers.

 

[Ghost93]

I think the reception to that comment has more to do with the notion that has been tossed around that the Brer Rabbit stories can’t be separated from the 1946 movie. They absolutely can, as the uncomfortable elements aren’t even relevant to the ride, and if they wanted to remove all specific references to the movie (music and character designs) while still keeping it themed to Brer Rabbit, they absolutely could. Disney just doesn’t care to.

The plot is relatively simple and easy to pick up on. Though I will admit that it is more difficult to pick up on than a movie, such is usually the case with the theme park ride medium (particularly dark rides and thrill rides). I’m sure most have had issues picking up on the plot for rides like Pirates or Mansion. It’s easier to pick up on repeat rides, enhancing the appreciation for those attractions.

Honestly, the music is the best part of Splash Mountain — more so than the use of the Brer Rabbit stories. So I can see why if Disney was abandoning ties to SotS it would do away with the Brer Rabbit theme altogether.

While I support the retheme to Princess and the Frog, the one thing I will definitely miss about the OG Splash Mountain is the music. The Princess and the Frog has a decent soundtrack, but it doesn't have songs nearly as catchy as "How Do You Do," "Everybody's Got a Laughing Place" and "Zip-A-Dee-Doo-Dah."

 

[Sir_Cliff]

Honestly, the music is the best part of Splash Mountain — more so than the use of the Brer Rabbit stories. So I can see why if Disney was abandoning ties to SotS it would do away with the Brer Rabbit theme altogether.

While I support the retheme to Princess and the Frog, the one thing I will definitely miss about the OG Splash Mountain is the music. The Princess and the Frog has a decent soundtrack, but it doesn't have songs nearly as catchy as "How Do You Do," "Everybody's Got a Laughing Place" and "Zip-A-Dee-Doo-Dah."

Must say that I will definitely miss the music from Splash Mountain. I don't know if this is a controversial take, but I think PatF has a pretty weak soundtrack. They keep including PatF songs in their nighttime spectaculars, but I have wondered how many people at the end of Harmonious, for example, are excited to hear the classic Dig a Little Deeper or remember more than that line when walking out the front gate afterwards.

 

[Midwest Elitist]

They could have like, oh I don't know, kept Zip as it wasn't controversial. For the 50 years the park has been open.

 

[Ghost93]

Must say that I will definitely miss the music from Splash Mountain. I don't know if this is a controversial take, but I think PatF has a pretty weak soundtrack. They keep including PatF songs in their nighttime spectaculars, but I have wondered how many people at the end of Harmonious, for example, are excited to hear the classic Dig a Little Deeper or remember more than that line when walking out the front gate afterwards.

I think "Almost There" and "Friends on the Other Side" are both great songs. Not as good as the ones on Splash Mountain, but very solid. Going to Take you There/Going Down the Bayou is a lot of fun and the song that would best suit a Splash Mountain retheme.

"Down in New Orleans" is pleasant, but feels very typical Randy Newman...nothing special. Boringly competent. "When We're Human" and "Dig a Little Deeper" are mediocre.

"My Belle Evangeline" is pretty, but wouldn't be well suited for Splash Mountain.

 

[Animaniac93-98]

Must say that I will definitely miss the music from Splash Mountain. I don't know if this is a controversial take, but I think PatF has a pretty weak soundtrack. They keep including PatF songs in their nighttime spectaculars, but I have wondered how many people at the end of Harmonious, for example, are excited to hear the classic Dig a Little Deeper or remember more than that line when walking out the front gate afterwards.

Despite getting two Oscar nominations for its songs, I don't think this take is controversial at all. Most people seem meh on the music.

Having said that, the PatF segment of Mickey and the Wonderous Book at HKDL was arguably the show's highlight and I liked the movie's float in Soundsational.

 

[Dear Prudence]

Despite getting two Oscar nominations for its songs, I don't think this take is controversial at all. Most people seem meh on the music.

Having said that, the PatF segment of Mickey and the Wonderous Book at HKDL was arguably the show's highlight and I liked the movie's float in Soundsational.

I think the only thing that saves the PATF songs is the singers. I don't think Randy Newman is a good song writer or singer. Even some of the lyrics in Almost There are...reductive. I think the singers and arrangements save what otherwise would not be good.

 

[Ghost93]

Despite getting two Oscar nominations for its songs, I don't think this take is controversial at all. Most people seem meh on the music.

I'd say the soundtrack is good, but it is on the lower end of the Disney Princess soundtracks. If I were to rank the music of the princess movies:

1. Beauty and the Beast
2. The Little Mermaid
3. Aladdin
4. Pocahontas
5. Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs
6. Frozen
7. Moana
8. Sleeping Beauty
9. Enchanted
10. The Princess and the Frog
11. Mulan
12. Frozen II
13. Cinderella
14. Tangled
15. Brave.

To be fair, I don't think a single Disney Princess movie has a "bad" soundtrack, but some are much better than others.

 

[Ghost93]

I think the only thing that saves the PATF songs is the singers. I don't think Randy Newman is a good song writer or singer. Even some of the lyrics in Almost There are...reductive. I think the singers and arrangements save what otherwise would not be good.

I think the problem with Newman's Disney songs is that they all feel kinda...samey? "You've got a Friend in Me" from Toy Story is an undeniable classic. But I don't know how on earth Newman snagged Oscars for "If I Didn't Have You" (Monsters Inc.) or "We Belong Together" (Toy Story 3).

He's definitely no Alan Menken.

 

[Animaniac93-98]

I think the problem with Newman's Disney songs is that they all feel kinda...samey? "You've got a Friend in Me" from Toy Story is an undeniable classic. But I don't know how on earth Newman snagged Oscars for "If I Didn't Have You" (Monsters Inc.) or "We Belong Together" (Toy Story 3).

He's definitely no Alan Menken.

James and the Giant Peach was a Disney movie with better Newman songs.

The title music from Monsters Inc and the instrumental version of "If I Didn't Have You" that now play outside Tokyo Disneyland are great.

 

[Sir_Cliff]

I think the problem with Newman's Disney songs is that they all feel kinda...samey? "You've got a Friend in Me" from Toy Story is an undeniable classic. But I don't know how on earth Newman snagged Oscars for "If I Didn't Have You" (Monsters Inc.) or "We Belong Together" (Toy Story 3).

He's definitely no Alan Menken.

I can't think of Randy Newman without remembering the MadTV sketch that weirdly captured his songwriting!

 

[Brer Oswald]

Honestly, the music is the best part of Splash Mountain — more so than the use of the Brer Rabbit stories. So I can see why if Disney was abandoning ties to SotS it would do away with the Brer Rabbit theme altogether.

While I support the retheme to Princess and the Frog, the one thing I will definitely miss about the OG Splash Mountain is the music. The Princess and the Frog has a decent soundtrack, but it doesn't have songs nearly as catchy as "How Do You Do," "Everybody's Got a Laughing Place" and "Zip-A-Dee-Doo-Dah."

The music is great, but if that’s really the “problem”, there’s no reason they can’t just write new music and change the designs of the three Brer characters. It would certainly cost a lot less, and keep much of what people like about the attraction. It’s not as if the contents of SotS are well known within the main stream, so most casuals aren’t going to make the association with Brer Rabbit and the film (only Disney diehards will, as is the case now, and Disney diehards should know what is wrong with the film if it truly bothers them).

But as has been mentioned before, the main reason that they are doing the retheme is to tie another E-Ticket into the lucrative Princess Brand.

 

[Brer Oswald]

Despite getting two Oscar nominations for its songs, I don't think this take is controversial at all. Most people seem meh on the music.

Having said that, the PatF segment of Mickey and the Wonderous Book at HKDL was arguably the show's highlight and I liked the movie's float in Soundsational.

I like ‘When We’re Human’. It has a lot of energy and the singing is good, but nobody ever talks about it. Friends on the Other Side is also good. Dig a Little Deeper and the New Orleans song are okay.

I think it is praised within the Disney fan community because the films surrounding it don’t have amazing soundtracks. Can anyone name a song from Bolt, Meet the Robinsons, Chicken Little, or Wreck it Ralph? Tangled isn’t bad, but there’s only one or two good songs. And I’m sure most people are so tired of the Frozen soundtrack that they don’t want to listen to it anymore.

 

[Disgruntled Walt]

I truly suspect that the Disneyland version was going to be changed and WDW's left alone. They had done it with Tower of Terror with minimal backlash (probably because DCA's Tower was always known to be inferior), and it makes thematic sense with New Orleans Square. I'd wager that WDW's Splash Mountain was thrown into this because of 2020 circumstances, and now they're realizing that the job is much bigger than before.

 

[Dear Prudence]

I can't think of Randy Newman without remembering the MadTV sketch that weirdly captured his songwriting!

This is terrifyingly accurate