EricsBiscuit
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With the amount of Imagineers they’re losing from the move, I would imagine (no pun intended) that they need to reprioritize where they’re allocating their resources.
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News Splash Mountain retheme to Princess and the Frog - Tiana's Bayou Adventure
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For ground up attractions, yes, for rethemes, three years post announcement to just begin would be a new low, even for Disney.
Ghost93
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The thing is, Disney announced the retheme a couple of years before they initially planned to announce it. The climate of 2020 and the protests made Disney announce way sooner than they were ready to announce.
I doubt the actual retheme will be ready before 2025. And even then, I wouldn't be surprised if the retheme process dragged out till 2027 or later due to the expensive nature of it.
Maybe, if Disney REALLY drags its feet, they will open the retheme in 2029 to commemorate the 20th anniversary of The Princess and the Frog and the 40th anniversary of Splash Mountain. Disney has a weird obsession with anniversaries, and I think 2024 (the 15th anniversary of PatF) doesn't give them enough time.
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JoeCamel
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I wish there were a "scratching my head" rating on this board....
Respectfully, much of this is Wrong. They paid a lot of money to garner interest. Companies don't do that without plans...you don't drop money on a lot of awareness to do nothing for a few years. It is then having to do it all again.
peter11435
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Except they really did announce this before they really had any plans.
WondersOfLife
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Yes, actually... they do. My dad literally told me that when I was like 7. And he’s never seen song of the south.
If youre old, and you listen to the lyrics of the song, it makes total sense. “Bree Fox and Brer Bear are gonna get it today.” “Home sweet home is the lesson today.” Agreed.
I was under the impression that we were talking about WDW’s version since this is a WDW thread. I’ve never been on Disneyland’s.
Regardless, the ride is good enough without knowing about SOTS. And Tiana should go somewhere else.
shambolicdefending
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If rumor is that Splash retheme plans aren't going well inside WDI, that should be the least surprising thing any of us hear all spring.
Of course they're not! There's almost no possible way they could go well.
At 2020s price points the retheme will almost surely cost several times more than the original construction. It will probably take just as long or longer than the original construction. And these things always seem to be complicated by stricter engineering processes and requirements.
The focus group studies have probably shown the idea to have mixed popularity with customers, and that's before anybody factors in the operational impact of shutting down a flagship attraction for two years or more. Possibly (probably?) right smack on top of the 70th Anniversary season.
Then we get to the small details of staffing shortages, supply chain delays, economic freezes in China, and workforce relocation that are taking up so much immediate bandwidth.
And has anybody checked to see how Disneyland Forward talks are going with the city?
With all the cost and operational headache it's going bring, and everything else the suits have to deal with right now, Splash is probably not a happy topic at HQ.
But, they'll get around to it, I'm sure. Maybe right after they get the Rocket Rods sorted out and running again?
Of course they're not! There's almost no possible way they could go well.
At 2020s price points the retheme will almost surely cost several times more than the original construction. It will probably take just as long or longer than the original construction. And these things always seem to be complicated by stricter engineering processes and requirements.
The focus group studies have probably shown the idea to have mixed popularity with customers, and that's before anybody factors in the operational impact of shutting down a flagship attraction for two years or more. Possibly (probably?) right smack on top of the 70th Anniversary season.
Then we get to the small details of staffing shortages, supply chain delays, economic freezes in China, and workforce relocation that are taking up so much immediate bandwidth.
And has anybody checked to see how Disneyland Forward talks are going with the city?
With all the cost and operational headache it's going bring, and everything else the suits have to deal with right now, Splash is probably not a happy topic at HQ.
But, they'll get around to it, I'm sure. Maybe right after they get the Rocket Rods sorted out and running again?
Completely absurd. I've been on Splash literally hundreds of times, and have never seen SotS. It's just a great attraction.
G00fyDad
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He did not say that it was not a great attraction.
True, he stated that you had to have seen SotS in order to understand the context better. I say that's absurd because it is simply a great attraction.
Dear Prudence
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Imagine!--actually paying attention and picking up on an attraction's clearly delineated plot! (especially since WDW has that great chase build up)
LittleBuford
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How is it absurd? It’s factually true that someone who’s seen the film (or knows the story) can better grasp the narrative of the ride. That goes for just about any attraction at Disney that is based on a movie.
LittleBuford
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As @Ghost93 noted, it’s impossible to deduce from the ride itself that Br’er Rabbit is using reverse psychology in order to be thrown into the briar patch at the end. Someone who doesn’t know this can still come away from the attraction feeling that the plot makes sense, but they are likely to think that Br’er Rabbit escaped death by chance rather than by design.
Dear Prudence
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It's really not impossible at all. Someone's inability to figure it out doesn't make it impossible for someone else
LittleBuford
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There is nothing in the dialogue or mannerisms of the animatronic to suggest that Br’er Rabbit wants to be thrown down. That’s not a criticism; there’s only so much an attraction can (or should attempt to) convey. And again, this observation holds true for any ride based on a movie.
Exactly. Someone of reasonable intelligence who is paying attention enough could deduce that, particularly if the show elements are in good working order.
Like Haunted Mansion being a retirement home tour for ghosts, it literally is evident in the ride that you are alive on a tour, but some people never notice that. It is ok, but nowhere near impossible or absurd.
Carousel of Progress is not literally the same family, but a very Norman Rockwell style depiction of family live throughout decades. It is not impossible for someone to deduce that, it just takes some thinking. To say it is impossible is a silly hyperbole.
You should go back and listen to the music from the ride or read the ride dialogue again. A lot of inferences can and should lead one to that conclusion you say there is no evidence for.
You can also know how reverse psychology works without this particular example of the trickster character from the film. My seven year old gets it. I would understand if one says it is more difficult to appreciate or get, but not impossible by any means. You made a claim that somehow it is impossible to understand.
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Dear Prudence
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I don't think it's that difficult to understand. The Disneyland version tells the story in the lyrics fairly explicitly?! Brer Rabbit says don't throw me in the Briar Patch, Brer Fox says that's just where you're going, and Brer Rabbit sings a verse at the end how home sweet home is today's lesson, and "what Brer Fox don't know is the Briar Patch is where my home is!" If you actually pay attention, it tells you what's going on.
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