Splash Mountain re-theme announced

[ImperfectPixie]

You can still do this via Youtube. Also, the ride will still be there in a slightly different format.

You can explain it to the next generations

You obviously do not get it.

 

[lebeau]

Do you think the Disney executives woke up one day, and thought “Splash Mountain is an unpopular attraction, how can we re-theme it to attract guests to that area?”

Or,are they replying to current loud social media outrage, proving how woke they are, with a surface level showing by sticking a princess on one of their already most popular attractions?

What difference does it make?

You're making my point for me.

Of course we have the ability to evaluate the merits of others' complaints without walking in their shoes. Judges do it every day.

Earlier, the opposite was said in this thread, in defense of the initial anti-Splash Mountain complainers.

I see it differently.

I'm guessing you're not a judge. This is not a courtroom.

I go back to my point. You don't see the difference? I find that disturbing.

 

[Bill in Atlanta]

The problem is that someone, somewhere, can always find a way to be "offended" by just about anything. I have Scottish heritage and sorry but the beloved Princess Merida is a stereotype. If you loved that character how would you feel about me and tens of thousands of others bending Disney and forcing them to remove her and all Brave merchandise from the parks and from the MK Fireworks show? Or maybe I have dwarfism and do the same to 7 Dwarfs Mine train and all references to the dwarfs? What if I'm Nepalese and find the representation in Animal Kingdom offensive and petition for an entire re-theme of that area?

Sometimes you will be offended. Life isn't always fair and equal. There are much, MUCH more important things we could be doing to help poor communities to have a better future than doing a re-theme on Splash Mountain.

How about Disney take the $50 million from this re-theme and put it towards the devastated urban school systems that need it so desperately? Most people calling for this re-theme as a hugely important thing are playing a game and don't really care about helping anyone.

Go find something better to do than destroy mostly harmless entertainment attractions that many MILLIONS more people have enjoyed than have been offended by. That is, if you really care about people so much...

Could not agree more. Very well put.

 

[The_Jobu]

Again... because it not offensive to you. Thats it?

Also... on the cheap. Need I remind you that Splash is full of recycled animatronics

Tell me what's offensive about Splash Mountain. Go ahead. I dare you. And dont bring up the movie it's "based on", that's not what is being changed.

Yeah, recycled animatronics on an entirely new ride system. Come on now...

 

[lebeau]

The problem is that someone, somewhere, can always find a way to be "offended" by just about anything. I have Scottish heritage and sorry but the beloved Princess Merida is a stereotype. If you loved that character how would you feel about me and tens of thousands of others bending Disney and forcing them to remove her and all Brave merchandise from the parks and from the MK Fireworks show? Or maybe I have dwarfism and do the same to 7 Dwarfs Mine train and all references to the dwarfs? What if I'm Nepalese and find the representation in Animal Kingdom offensive and petition for an entire re-theme of that area?

Sometimes you will be offended. Life isn't always fair and equal. There are much, MUCH more important things we could be doing to help poor communities to have a better future than doing a re-theme on Splash Mountain.

How about Disney take the $50 million from this re-theme and put it towards the devastated urban school systems that need it so desperately? Most people calling for this re-theme as a hugely important thing are playing a game and don't really care about helping anyone.

Go find something better to do than destroy mostly harmless entertainment attractions that many MILLIONS more people have enjoyed than have been offended by. That is, if you really care about people so much...

Walt Disney Co. Pledges $5M To Social Justice Nonprofits Starting With $2M To NAACP

 

[21stamps]

By removing ALL of the older attractions, Disney is removing things that allow parents to share pieces of their own childhood with their children in a meaningful, tangible way outside of stories and photographs. For children, a parent telling them "when I was a kid" stories are just that - they are intangible stories and difficult to imagine. Bring those stories to life in a tangible experience, and not only do adults have a connection to them, but they create a space in which they can connect with their children in ways that aren't usually possible. There is a lot to be said for something when a parent can say to their child "you know, the first time I rode this, I was only 10!"

Well said!
Oh my goodness, we don’t usually agree on much... but your post is exactly my thoughts too
.

 

[Bill in Atlanta]

I see it differently.

I'm guessing you're not a judge. This is not a courtroom.

I go back to my point. You don't see the difference? I find that disturbing.

Of course I see the difference. We agree that a person can use logic to evaluate the complaints of others.

 

[lebeau]

That's the rub. The ride is harmless and completely unoffensive. If people need to see themselves exactly to enjoy a theme park, they should ask for a new ride to be built, not take away a favourite to do it on the cheap.

No matter how many times you and others repeat that you did not find the ride offensive, it won't change the fact that others felt differently.

This thread would be a lot shorter if people would grasp that point.

 

[ImperfectPixie]

Well said!
Oh my goodness, we don’t usually agree on much... but your post is exactly my thoughts too
.

That's twice today!

 

[PrincessNelly_NJ]

No matter how many times you and others repeat that you did not find the ride offensive, it won't change the fact that others felt differently.

This thread would be a lot shorter if people would grasp that point.

empathy is seriously lacking in this thread.

 

[getdislove]

Welp i’m leaving now! Just wanted to make a few points. if you left this thread bc of me, you can come back now. sorry for the integration!

 

[PrincessNelly_NJ]

Oh yeah, that's exactly the same experience as sharing a treasured memory together in person. Come on now...

You could hop a plane to Tokyo...

 

[SteamboatJoe]

Again... because it not offensive to you. Thats it?

Also... on the cheap. Need I remind you that Splash is full of recycled animatronics

A minor technicality but I think the recycled AAs are primarily in the DL version. MK didn't have America Sings to poach AAs from.

 

[xdan0920]

You may no longer be the demographic they care about anymore.

Truer words have never been posted on WDWMagic.

Many of us, myself included, are no longer the target audience. What's weird is that I am an upper middle class family, two boys and owns DVC.

 

[lebeau]

empathy is seriously lacking in this thread.

I find a serious lack of empathy everywhere. But the levels here are shocking. I am embarrassed to be a part of this community.

 

[MrPromey]

Im honestly surprised they are spending the money to do this.

It probably would have been cheaper if Disney just created an updated film with the Br'er Rabbit stories but by someone from todays time, then threw it on Disney+. Then just come out with some PR saying they felt like the stories were historically important enough to keep alive but the setting originally attached to them was problematic.

And slate princess Tiana for her own dark ride attraction that doesn't come with a height requirement and drops that scare young children away from riding it. (my son who just turned 8 still has never ridden Splash Mountain out of fear from seeing that final drop no matter how much I've tried to convince him most of the ride is nothing like that)

Total disclosure, I'm against this whole thing mostly because I don't trust Disney not to screw this up since they have a mediocre-at-best track record with reskins and I'd personally rather have a great ride stay a great ride and have another potentially great ride built the way it should be rather than taking an IP with potential and doing a back-flip to try to make it fit an existing space and ride system.

I think there were ways for Disney to keep the existing ride and theme that would have been thoughtful and forward-thinking and inclusive for everyone in a positive way that would have shown true moral direction as a company by making an actual statement rather than this "we're not changing this because of why it's obvious to everyone we're changing this and don't ask us why we thought the original idea was good to begin with".

That feels like a better win for fans of the existing ride and for people who are hurt by the association to the movie. Sure, it would still p*ss off the racists to change anything but who cares about them (when it comes to their opinion on race) anyway?

 

[Dan Deesnee]

Walt Disney Co. Pledges $5M To Social Justice Nonprofits Starting With $2M To NAACP

So a supposed $50 million for a RIDE and 7 million to those organizations that might actually help change peoples lives and futures?

What a joke.

And there is not a lot of empathy here because most people realize that spending tens of millions on a mostly harmless ride featuring talking animals isn't how you achieve actual change and provide a brighter future to people in need... Amazing that I had to explain that but oh well.

 

[The_Jobu]

No matter how many times you and others repeat that you did not find the ride offensive, it won't change the fact that others felt differently.

This thread would be a lot shorter if people would grasp that point.

Yes it would, especially if you grasp that "some people" is an inherently useless value. What if people feel differently about Haunted Mansion, or Pirates? Tear it down? What is your threshold for action vs inaction?

Some people didnt like it, therefore it must be changed, is not a coherent argument. Stop bringing it up.

Just say you find it offensive and you are glad they changed it. Then people would have something to debate.

 

[orlandogal22]

I'm just curious - honest question here - for those who are pleased with this change, have you ever rode Splash Mountain? Did you enjoy Splash Mountain? Or did you avoid Splash Mountain due to the beliefs expressed in this forum as the catalyst requiring this change?

 

[PrincessNelly_NJ]

Do you think the Disney executives woke up one day, and thought “Splash Mountain is an unpopular attraction, how can we re-theme it to attract guests to that area?”

Or,are they replying to current loud social media outrage, proving how woke they are, with a surface level showing by sticking a princess on one of their already most popular attractions?

People have been talking about re-theme splash for years. Please search these forums