Splash Mountain re-theme announced

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SteamboatJoe

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lebeau said:
Each individual person decides for themselves.
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The only issue I have with this take is that the wait times for the ride show no indications that the public at large had a problem with it.

EDIT: That isnt to say minority feelings aren't valid or worth considering.
 
lebeau

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Dan deesnee said:
So a supposed $50 million for a RIDE and 7 million to those organizations that might actually help change peoples lives and futures?

What a joke.

And there is not a lot of empathy here because most people realize that spending tens of millions on a mostly harmless ride featuring talking animals isn't how you achieve actual change and provide a brighter future to people in need... Amazing that I had to explain that but oh well.
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I sense there's no pleasing you, sir. Good day.
 
21stamps

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ImperfectPixie said:
That's twice today! 😂 ;)
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I think a lot of us feel the same way. One of the most magical components of Disney IS the multi generational connection. It’s why my 70&71 year old parents wanted to have one last trip this year, this time with their grandkids, to bring it full circle.

It’s why the timing of the Star Wars acquisition/movies was so perfect. All of the GenX/Oregon Trail kids are now adults with children the same age as they were when first became fans.

That connection is a huge part of what makes Disney so beloved among all ages.
 
lebeau

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The_Jobu said:
Yes it would, especially if you grasp that "some people" is an inherently useless value. What if people feel differently about Haunted Mansion, or Pirates? Tear it down? What is your threshold for action vs inaction?

Some people didnt like it, therefore it must be changed, is not a coherent argument. Stop bringing it up.

Just say you find it offensive and you are glad they changed it. Then people would have something to debate.
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You have got to be kidding me with this! Again? I'm out!
 
The_Jobu

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PrincessNelly_NJ said:
Google is free.... Read through this thread.

You cannot improve if you ask people to explain offensive things to them but then ignore them when they keep explaining it. You have not deserve to understand it. And thats fine. So stop @ me.
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But no one has said anything about why Splash Mountain is offensive.

Lots about Song of the South, but not Splash Mountain. I can wait all day but all I will get are more people saying useless things like "go look it up".
 
tirian

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MisterPenguin said:
The purpose of the retheme is to retire any references to Song of the South. It's not about finding a place for Tiana.

And as the Disney Parks Blog says about this, the ride's story takes place after the movie ends, so, Tiana shouldn't be in frog form.
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Obviously. That’s the point.
 
tirian

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The_Jobu said:
But no one has said anything about why Splash Mountain is offensive.

Lots about Song of the South, but not Splash Mountain. I can wait all day but all I will get are more people saying useless things like "go look it up".
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Yes, look up opinions on the Internet. ;)
 
Brer Oswald

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lebeau said:
We switched to Universal years ago. For us, it's a better experience although that choice has nothing to do with politics.
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That’s why I’m considering switching too. Splash Mountain isn’t a political statement for me. It’s a classic dark ride with Classic Disney charm and classic animatronics. It’s WDW’s equivalent to Disneyland’s Pirates. The retheme will most definitely get rid of the America Sings animatronics, And with it, the Classic Disney charm. It’s just going to be another screen heavy movie ride. If I’m wrong, I’m wrong. But there’s little evidence to suggest otherwise given the $50 million budget thrown around and the recent trends with the company’s newer rides.

The one thing Disney has over Universal was their classic rides. With Splash gone, Spaceship Earth getting the storytelling redo, and Small World due for a change, what’s left? Mansion? It was my least favourite of the classics, and that won’t change.

All Disney wants to do is make rides based on their recent IP. But their recent IP is weaker than what Universal has access to. Universal has the cheaper price, the better IP, and the less stressful experience. Why go to WDW if the one thing enticing me to go there, my favourite ride, is gone?

If PatF tops Splash, and I’d hope it would, that’s great. But it has to be the best ride they’ve ever made. It has to have all the charm of Splash and then some. I’ll probably test it at Disneyland and make the call if I want to return to Disney World. Till then, I’ll be spending my time elsewhere, where things aren’t as stressful.
 
lebeau

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orlandogal22 said:
I'm just curious - honest question here - for those who are pleased with this change, have you ever rode Splash Mountain? Did you enjoy Splash Mountain? Or did you avoid Splash Mountain due to the beliefs expressed in this forum as the catalyst requiring this change?
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Once upon a time I had a Splash Mountain shirt with all the characters on it. I specifically chose that design over ones with Mickey and the gang. I never found the ride offensive. I told my wife as much just last week. I always thought it was kind of weird to represent a banned movie so prominently in the parks, but I was never upset about it.

But my opinion isn't the only one that matters. If a PATF retheme makes the parks more inclusive, I'm fine with it. Hopefully it will be well executed.
 
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