Splash Mountain re-theme announced

[Chi84]

Yes, I don’t believe they were forced.



I think my thoughts are not even specifically to Splash, just that I don’t want princesses everywhere. I had a much greater love for Tom Sawyer rather than Cinderella growing up.. I love the simplicity and ‘make your own attraction’ of TSI, probably why I love the Treehouse too. I think the younger generations still need those attractions, and I think our nostalgia needs it too.

With the song itself, I feel it’s the summation of the magic of Disney. I hear it, and I think of singing it during my childhood with my siblings and parents at WDW, and home.. and I think of being at Disney as an adult with friends and/or husband singing it, and I think of being at Disney with my own child singing it. Those memories and connections are quintessential Disney, imo. Without the WDW generational/full circle experiences, then some of the magic is lost.

Well we agree about the princesses. Unfortunately, I don’t think all the petitions in the world are going to have any impact on that score. Disney loves its princesses. I thought Moana was a good compromise.

 

[ImperfectPixie]

I don’t research an author before reading something., some people have better time for searches.. I just read something, see if there’s anything that strikes out at me or not.
As I said, I’m not someone who only reads something that either I know I will agree with, or has to be written by someone I think I’ll agree with.

There’s a lot of people who I may disagree with, fervently, on many things, but once in a while they’ll say something I do agree with. That’s just me, and I plan on staying that way.

Insinuating that people being choosy about the quality of the sources they read indicates that they only read what they agree with is making a pretty big assumption.

 

[21stamps]

Insinuating that people being choosy about the quality of the sources they read indicates that they only read what they agree with is making a pretty big assumption.

It was an opinion, one I found interesting and shared. Opinion, not breaking news. Op-Ed. Don’t know how many times I can say that. This is getting silly though, so that’s my last response to you.

 

[ImperfectPixie]

It was an opinion, one I found interesting and shared. Opinion, not breaking news. Op-Ed. Don’t know how many times I can say that. This is getting silly though, so that’s my last response to you.

So are the thinly veiled insults.

 

[LittleBuford]

I don’t research an author before reading something.

If not before, I look into it afterwards, just to get a better sense of where the author is coming from ideologically.

 

[21stamps]

Well we agree about the princesses. Unfortunately, I don’t think all the petitions in the world are going to have any impact on that score. Disney loves its princesses. I thought Moana was a good compromise.

I put Moana in a different category from the rest, so I would have been ok with her too.. I think they could have made a great water ride with that theme.

 

[LittleBuford]

I think it’s usually easy to spot where someone is coming from ideologically in an opinion piece.

Not really. I couldn’t have deduced that the author is a hypocrite without looking into him more.

 

[kong1802]

I envy your search engine time and skills.. you are definitely much better at it than I am.

Pro tip:

As soon as you see “Co editor” followed by: Ny Post, Breitbart, or OAN, no search is needed to know that the author is not going to be worth reading.....

Now if you don’t see those, give it a go! No search skills needed.....

Tried to save everyone some time....

And still trying.

 

[Donaldfan1934]

I guess it depends on who you define as "more people." If you limit it to the people signing petitions, then it would seem that Disney chose to side with the smaller group demanding a change. Maybe they were considering a broader audience and not limiting their decision to petitions. Or maybe they thought the smaller number of people had a more valid point than the larger number of people.

Whatever the internal influences leading to Disney’s decision may have been, the fact that more people were actively against the idea than actively in favor of it is naturally going to put Disney’s reasoning into question for some people.

 

[kong1802]

Again, I don’t read that way. I’ll read something from Michael Moore, Al Sharpton, Sean Hannity, or a complete unknown if the article looks appealing, then I read, and judge for myself. Crazy how that works.. no manual.

And I’ll read most of those too, as none of them work for the list I shared above.....

See?

 

[kong1802]

You skipped words again...

Anyway, I appreciate you and Pixie bombarding my posts and going completely off topic in pretty much most of the threads I post in.. but maybe we could get back to something related to this thread?

Exactly what I posted earlier...

So, when do people think this change even begins to take shape?

My guess, January 2022...opens by fall 2022. Changes minds by summer of 2023....

 

[Phil12]

Interpretation is correct... you are interpreting the counter petition as an alt-right call to action... when others interpret the change as an over-reaction by the corporation to appease a very small group that would've moved onto their next target if Disney execs kept mum.

TWDC doesn't care a bit about this group of people. They care about their corporate interests. Supporting white supremacy is not in their best interests.

 

[21stamps]

I went back and deleted my posts in the interaction with people who were more concerned with a weird bombardment on me, than about the topic of this thread. It’s cleaned up a bit now.

 

[Phil12]

Phil has been deleted a number of times earlier in this discussion while it was under news and rumors. He's got a free pass here to get as political as he desires... excluding hate speech. Just ignore @Phil12

And I was so desirous of your approval.

 

[aw14]

TWDC doesn't care a bit about this group of people. They care about their corporate interests. Supporting white supremacy is not in their best interests.

 

[Smiley/OCD]

I just have 2 questions...purely out of curiosity...no ulterior motives!!! I wonder what Mariah Carey and her ex, Nick Cannon think of this whole controversy...they are known for being die-hard Disney lovers, and if you google her, there are pictures of their family having a great time on SM...also, will there be a backlash IF PatF does not measure up to SM...will people feel cheated by Disney, in an attempt to placate the guests who want the change. Myself, I think the change is horrible, but as a white male, I don't know what it's like to be a PoC, so my opinion is really a mute point. I just hope that Disney will create an attraction that will not only meet the quality of SM, but will surpass it...a daunting task, indeed.

 

[ImperfectPixie]

I just have 2 questions...purely out of curiosity...no ulterior motives!!! I wonder what Mariah Carey and her ex, Nick Cannon think of this whole controversy...they are known for being die-hard Disney lovers, and if you google her, there are pictures of their family having a great time on SM...also, will there be a backlash IF PatF does not measure up to SM...will people feel cheated by Disney, in an attempt to placate the guests who want the change. Myself, I think the change is horrible, but as a white male, I don't know what it's like to be a PoC, so my opinion is really a mute point. I just hope that Disney will create an attraction that will not only meet the quality of SM, but will surpass it...a daunting task, indeed.

If the budget of $50 million is accurate, I don't think we'll be seeing anything near the same quality.

 

[Phil12]

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[aw14]

It isn’t?

I would have figured since everything was white supremacy, wrestling was too

 

[Phil12]

I just have 2 questions...purely out of curiosity...no ulterior motives!!! I wonder what Mariah Carey and her ex, Nick Cannon think of this whole controversy...they are known for being die-hard Disney lovers, and if you google her, there are pictures of their family having a great time on SM...also, will there be a backlash IF PatF does not measure up to SM...will people feel cheated by Disney, in an attempt to placate the guests who want the change. Myself, I think the change is horrible, but as a white male, I don't know what it's like to be a PoC, so my opinion is really a mute point. I just hope that Disney will create an attraction that will not only meet the quality of SM, but will surpass it...a daunting task, indeed.

There already is a backlash. Anytime Disney re-themes an attraction, a group of haters emerge and describe in detail the horrors of the changes. They are disciples of General Grizz. He was famous around these parts about 15 years ago for his involvement with Save Disney and his opposition to changes at The Land Pavilion at Epcot.

So we can look forward to a whole new round of hate when the new re-themed Splash Mountain opens. But don't worry, just shake it off!