Splash Mountain falling apart (literally?)

Alektronic

Alektronic

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Nubs70 said:
Would anyone know what type of actuators are in the AA? Are they hydraulic or pneumatic? I would imagine that they are pneumatic. If so, the AA movement failure could be due to water in the instrument air. This would lead me to believe that the desiccators may need some pm work.
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All Analog functions are hydraulic, most Digital functions are pneumatic
 
SirLink

SirLink

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WDW1974 said:
If I ride Splash later this spring and the logs are still mildewy with a strong BO smell dating back a decade since they last were cleaned, then this will still get a FAIL from this Spirit.

Cleaning is part of the cost of doing business, TDO!
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Agreed so is refurbing attractions, ordering quality ingredients for restaurants etc...but we know they tend not to do that.
 
Goofnut1980

Goofnut1980

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Alektronic said:
Ok. It seems like there is a lot of misinformation or guessing on the how a ride really works (as usual). I'll try and correct some of the misconceptions. First of all, ride computers do not reboot, they are not that kind of computers. There are 2 ride control computers for EVERY ride, one is the Control computer and the other one is the Monitor computer.

Here is the basic scenario for most water rides like Splash, POTC, Kali, Maelstrom (Small World and Gran Fiesta are just basic because it no lifts or drops).

The Splash Control Tower CM is watching the whole ride through the camera monitors. That is their job to make sure everyone is safe and sitting down and not doing anything they shouldn't be doing. So if they see someone standing up, they hit the RIDE STOP button, that stops the lifts and raises the boat stops. Usually they make a PA announcement to that zone and if that person sits down and everything else is good to go, then the CM raises the RIDE STOP button and pushes the reset button and then everything carries on normally.

But what happens sometimes when a log stops and it just happens to be on the edge of sensor and may not blocking it all the way or could be a disagreement, then the ride won't reset if detects a problem. So the tower calls maintenance to look at it to see if it is a sensor failure or just out of position. It used to be easy to fix, all they had to do was switch to maintenance mode and jog the log to the proper position and switch back to normal. BUT now because they worry so much about the LEGAL stuff and somebody suing them from jogging the boat another 6 inches, maintenance is allowed to move the boat in maintenance mode. So what happens is they have to evacuate all the logs, so the first thing they have to do is shut down the water. Once the water is shut down, then all the Operations CM's can RAC(Remote Access Control) out basically by putting an lock on the E-Stop so nobody can start the ride with CM's in the ride. So now they can evacuate each and every log(this is what takes the longest time) and when the guests are clear of the ride, then maintenance can jog that boat 6 inches, then they can start the ride back up, start the water back up and re-enter the boat counts in each zone.

So like I have said before, most of ride downtimes are guest induced, sometimes CM induced, but rarely ever a ride just breaks down, maybe 1% of the time.
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Wow.. that was super detailed! good job!

I have a random question. When the boats start back up, do they have to cycle through once completely to make sure its ok before allowing guests on the ride?
 
Nubs70

Nubs70

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Alektronic said:
Ok. It seems like there is a lot of misinformation or guessing on the how a ride really works (as usual). I'll try and correct some of the misconceptions. First of all, ride computers do not reboot, they are not that kind of computers. There are 2 ride control computers for EVERY ride, one is the Control computer and the other one is the Monitor computer.

Here is the basic scenario for most water rides like Splash, POTC, Kali, Maelstrom (Small World and Gran Fiesta are just basic because it no lifts or drops).

The Splash Control Tower CM is watching the whole ride through the camera monitors. That is their job to make sure everyone is safe and sitting down and not doing anything they shouldn't be doing. So if they see someone standing up, they hit the RIDE STOP button, that stops the lifts and raises the boat stops. Usually they make a PA announcement to that zone and if that person sits down and everything else is good to go, then the CM raises the RIDE STOP button and pushes the reset button and then everything carries on normally.

But what happens sometimes when a log stops and it just happens to be on the edge of sensor and may not blocking it all the way or could be a disagreement, then the ride won't reset if detects a problem. So the tower calls maintenance to look at it to see if it is a sensor failure or just out of position. It used to be easy to fix, all they had to do was switch to maintenance mode and jog the log to the proper position and switch back to normal. BUT now because they worry so much about the LEGAL stuff and somebody suing them from jogging the boat another 6 inches, maintenance is allowed to move the boat in maintenance mode. So what happens is they have to evacuate all the logs, so the first thing they have to do is shut down the water. Once the water is shut down, then all the Operations CM's can RAC(Remote Access Control) out basically by putting an lock on the E-Stop so nobody can start the ride with CM's in the ride. So now they can evacuate each and every log(this is what takes the longest time) and when the guests are clear of the ride, then maintenance can jog that boat 6 inches, then they can start the ride back up, start the water back up and re-enter the boat counts in each zone.

So like I have said before, most of ride downtimes are guest induced, sometimes CM induced, but rarely ever a ride just breaks down, maybe 1% of the time.
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By evacuation, does this involve just the out of sequence logs or all the logs in the entire ride?
 
Rob562

Rob562

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Clever Name said:
Considering the short duration of both Lucky and Luxo Jr., it doesn't say much for the future of electric AA's.
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I'm not sure we ever got a clear reason behind Luxo going away. It may have been because it was outdoors, or it may have been part of the Luxo lawsuit that forced them to stop using him.

-Rob
 
Bairstow

Bairstow

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Rob562 said:
I'm not sure we ever got a clear reason behind Luxo going away. It may have been because it was outdoors, or it may have been part of the Luxo lawsuit that forced them to stop using him.

-Rob
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I always thought that it was because his sporadic performances, which were only meant to be a minor way to "plus" the area for a few guests a day, were turning into street-stopping crowd crushes, and operations had him removed because of all the crowd control issues his unexpected popularity was creating.
 
lazyboy97o

lazyboy97o

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Bairstow said:
I always thought that it was because his sporadic performances, which were only meant to be a minor way to "plus" the area for a few guests a day, were turning into street-stopping crowd crushes, and operations had him removed because of all the crowd control issues his unexpected popularity was creating.
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I know it came up recently, but I just can't remember if the lawsuit played a role.
 
Alektronic

Alektronic

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Goofnut1980 said:
Wow.. that was super detailed! good job!

I have a random question. When the boats start back up, do they have to cycle through once completely to make sure its ok before allowing guests on the ride?
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Yes, it is the SOP for the Operations dept., but not required as far as the ride is concerned.
 
Yert3

Yert3

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Sped2424 said:
went Saturday I noticed some issues with the logs backing up on one another throughout the ride especially at the drop, the maintenance lights even went up during my ride through once but it was at the waterfall so it was no big deal. The laughing place had no jumping water effects at all but the chicken that people say was down is back up as i looked and all chickens were working at the end scene also Mr blue was not singing at the end other than that it was great I even noticed how that smell that I associate splash with was gone which is a good thing.
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Were the fountains underneath the turtles still on?
 

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