Spirited Spring Break News, Observations & Thoughts ...

PhotoDave219

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I like that idea, whip up a nice spreadsheet for us. I'm a planner and from Philadelphia, so I'd love nothing more than to have a list of people (laminated, of course) that I can boo and heckle if I ever run into them when I'm on vacation with my family.

Justin Upton.
B.J. Upton.
Dan Uggla.
Freddie Freeman.
Chipper Jones.
Cody Ross.
The Pittsburgh Penguins.
Frank Rizzo.
 

lazyboy97o

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@WDW1974 do you know what Disney/Marvel's share in movies such as Spider-Man are? Do they box office percentages or do they get a flat licensing fee? Also, you have to love the Marvel branding they are now doing... It's 100% the same as tacking on Disney to their features and such. Every movie now says Marvel Captain America: Winter. (Or whatever movie it might be)
I do not know about licensing fees, starting with The Amazing Spider-Man Disney owns the merchandizing rights to the Sony films in exchange for Sony keeping the character without the time limits that pushed a reboot.
 

Fe Maiden

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Justin Upton.
B.J. Upton.
Dan Uggla.
Freddie Freeman.
Chipper Jones.
Cody Ross.
The Pittsburgh Penguins.
Frank Rizzo.


You forgot the Easter Bunny and Santa Claus and JD Drew. But most loved Rizzo unless you were a Black Panther.

Uggla killed us this week, did you happen to see the video of the fans when he hit the grand slam?

http://extramustard.si.com/2014/04/15/phillies-fan-reaction-dan-uggla-grand-slam/

The Deadspin version in super slo-mo is awesome too.
 

Cesar R M

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If anyone wants to know what Disney truly fears most, then check out the news on X-Men director Bryan Singer.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr-esq/director-bryan-singer-accused-sexually-697047
Honestly, it all looks like a big money grab.
Singer gets popular, will have one of its most waited franchise movies out.. and suddenly a guy standsup and accuses them of sexual abuse that happened DECADES ago.

Nah THR basicly said money grab, based on the timing. Disney and Iger really fear the stock price dropping.
Agree, not the first time things like these happen.

I thought the same thing when we were linking to Fadra's Mommy Blog YouTube videos earlier in this thread! I remember thinking "there's almost no one there!" at that morning Fun Run on Day 4 of the conference!

My new friend Fadra shot a video of the Fun Run, and she had a panorama shot of the assembled Mommy Runners. I just went back and stopped the video and counted. There were barely 40 runners in attendance for a 2 mile run that went from the Disneyland Hotel, through Downtown Disney, Disneyland and California Adventure before they crossed the finish line on Route 66 in Cars Land. Then they had a catered breakfast and two hours of exclusive use of Cars Land. But hardly anyone was there.

Apologies in advance to @Tigger1988 who hates these Mommy Blogger videos...


There's nobody at this thing! There's more CM's lining the route than there are runners. And to be honest, some of those ladies look like they've never jogged before and will never jog again.

And New Balance gave each Mommy Blogger a free pair of running shoes for this event! :rolleyes:

40 Mommy Bloggers for a Fun Run through the Disneyland Resort that must have cost a small fortune to pull off. I can imagine how annoyed New Balance was if they sponsored this thing. It's almost criminal what they did last weekend in Anaheim. :eek:

I wonder if Disney is really betting on the "gossip" and "mouth to mouth" type recommendations/spamming that mothers and women do than actually social internet media.
 

Cesar R M

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I guess what I don't get about this, is how does it benefit Disney if those rooms sit empty? Why don't they do anything about it? It's been widely reported that there have been lower occupancy rates in recent years, especially in the deluxes. And as has been discussed on these threads, there are many reasons for that -- the central reason being price/value.

Anyone who has ever even taken one business class would know about the supply vs. demand curve. If you are not selling your product, how will continually raising prices 5 or 10% every year going to sell more of it? Who sits in a conference room and says "Our occupancy rates are the lowest they've been in over a decade ... how can we fill more of those rooms? Raise room rates another 10% this year!"

I know TDO is desperate, and they are trying to massage the numbers to look as good as they can. I also know they would love to push more people to DVC contracts. But the casual visitors with cash aren't going to buy DVC because the Poly is too expensive, they'll just go to the Waldorf instead.

Wouldn't they rather adjust pricing to match demand, and then tout to the Wall St. analysts how high their occupancy rates and all the extra revenue that comes from having guests stay on property? Sure, you might lose $100 bucks a night on the room revenue, but you'd gain in back in a heartbeat when your guests spend it on food/bev/merch that is spent in the resort and parks rather than off property.

TDO operates in a bubble where logic and reality just don't apply. It's like the bizarro world.
My guess is.. they receive the same money selling less than 60% of their total beds at their huge rates.. than having lower prices and fill the hotels higher than 95% with lower prices. (due of CM requirements, more buses to feed the parks, more food, more maintenance..etc..)
 

dreamfinder

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New Balance has partnered with runDisney to make a special "Disney" shoe collection for 2014 that will only be available at runDisney expos (so they say). Theyre probly wondering why they made the effort to produce special edition shoes for events that are only getting 18 views on YouTube. Not exactly getting the company any headlines. Awesome shoes though. NB really put some effort into it. Nice touches they added.

While I'd love to rip into misuse of Disney funds that could be better spent elsewhere, this is barking up the wrong tree entirely. New Balance did shoes in 2013 as well as 2014. And as stated, these shoes were indeed only available at the Expos. In 2013 people were lined up for the whole day just to be able to buy the shoes. This year they have switched to a virtual queue, but slots are filling up hours before the Expo opens. People are walking out having purchased 4 pairs of shoes. Lots of them are ending up on eBay, but there has been a lot of hype around these shoes since they started releasing hints back late Dec. 4 separate adult designs, and 2 for kids. In the running community, especially those who runDisney, plenty of headlines and talk about these shoes.
 

dreamfinder

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I guess what I don't get about this, is how does it benefit Disney if those rooms sit empty? Why don't they do anything about it? It's been widely reported that there have been lower occupancy rates in recent years, especially in the deluxes. And as has been discussed on these threads, there are many reasons for that -- the central reason being price/value.

Anyone who has ever even taken one business class would know about the supply vs. demand curve. If you are not selling your product, how will continually raising prices 5 or 10% every year going to sell more of it? Who sits in a conference room and says "Our occupancy rates are the lowest they've been in over a decade ... how can we fill more of those rooms? Raise room rates another 10% this year!"

There is another school of thought in the business world that relates to status. Look at the iPhone. Ridiculously expensive if you don't get a carrier subsidy. Keeping prices high helps to keep it desirable. Same thing goes for brands like Coach. Could they sell more handbugs if they were only $100 instead of $300? Heck yeah. But keeping them expensive allows them to build up a mystique and a demand. Look at how many people buy/carry knock off Coach bags. Not for the bag, but for the brand. It's entirely possible that someone in the ranks of management is operating misguidedly under this premise, hoping to build up cache. (Looks like it's failing in this case)
 

wdisney9000

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While I'd love to rip into misuse of Disney funds that could be better spent elsewhere, this is barking up the wrong tree entirely. New Balance did shoes in 2013 as well as 2014. And as stated, these shoes were indeed only available at the Expos. In 2013 people were lined up for the whole day just to be able to buy the shoes. This year they have switched to a virtual queue, but slots are filling up hours before the Expo opens. People are walking out having purchased 4 pairs of shoes. Lots of them are ending up on eBay, but there has been a lot of hype around these shoes since they started releasing hints back late Dec. 4 separate adult designs, and 2 for kids. In the running community, especially those who runDisney, plenty of headlines and talk about these shoes.

I hadnt seen anything for 2013 editions. Thanks for the info. One website I read made it seem like they had just released these around the DSMM event in Anaheim last weekend. My mistake. They are definitely nice shoes. I switched from NB a year ago and started using Under Armour shoes as they fit my foot better. I wouldnt mind having a pair of those Sorcerer Mickeys to tear up. $300 bucks though, man, I'd rather go buy some retro Air Jordans and keep em in the box forever. I have like 9 pair that Im too scared to wear and mess up. (theyre all different editions). Thanks for correcting my train of thought in regards to the NB's.
 

WDW1974

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OK, last night was a bit insane in the Twitverse.

Apparently, crazy Jason Surrell had some sort of breakdown involving this site (or someone who posts here) and he put out some tweets that, frankly, in a world with justice would have him fired from WDI.

(Let's all not forget his Christmas week retweeting of Phil Kippel's threats against myself and another 5-6 MAGICal members, which then disappeared.)

I am still confused as to what his issues were. I'm also curious as to whether he actually posts here (he fancies himself a comedian, perhaps, he is the Thickhead?) But, more importantly, the dude had his little hissy WHILE HIS WIFE WAS IN LABOR. You read that right. On what should have been the most important night of his life, the dude was arguing and fighting fanboi battles in the Twitverse.

Does the insanity ever end in the fan community? And, on some level, does it help the corporation that so many who are associated as fans, Lifestylers and even Imagineers are flat out insane?
 

PhotoDave219

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WDW1974

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OK, so I didn't get to visit EPCOT for Flower and Garden Fest, so I was thinking about maybe heading back up this weekend. Not all that serious, but ...

I thought I would check rates for a last minute Easter Holiday at Walt Disney World. This is for a 4/19-4/22 stay ... so I could spend Easter Sunday at the World and a few days after.

Here's some of what I found in a quickee search:

ASMu/ (standard room) $158;
AoA (suite) $422;
BWI $537;
BLT (Studio) $607;
SSR (Studio) $431;
FW (cabin) $425;

Yes, those are all REAL rates ... now, let's play 'What the market really sustains.'

The Ritz-Carlton Orlando $258;

Gaylord Palms $179;

WDW Swan $159;

WDW Dolphin $149;

Hilton Bonnet Creek $149;

Hyatt Regency Grand Cypress $189;

Hilton DTD $109;

Sheraton LBV $106;

Wyndham LBV $82;

The Buena Vista Palace $102;

Sheraton Vistana Resort (TWO bedroom unit) $154 ... Now, if you would prefer to check-in tomorrow (Friday, April 18) for a five day getaway, the rates largely stay the same. And, if you book using a hotels.com coupon, you can reduce these rates by 12%. RealityLand anyone...?

Thoughts? Anyone? @ParentsOf4 ?
 

WDW1974

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Nah THR basicly said money grab, based on the timing. Disney and Iger really fear the stock price dropping.

My point was Disney fears a sex scandal involving one of its top creatives and underage boys.

I don't believe this is a money grab at all, but we don't have all the facts. But there has been plenty of talk in the business about Singer and what he's into over the years.

And the fact the young man/accuser has an attorney who is absolutely one of the go-to most respected guys for REAL victims (he doesn't take cases without merit) speaks loudly to me about the veracity of the claims.
 
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WDW1974

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@WDW1974 one of your buddies on Twitter was having a lot of fun at your expense tonight. Sadly he deleted his best insults quickly. Fortunately, screen captures live on forever.

I don't believe it was at my expense. Not from the screen captures I have seen ... but he is jerk and a bully and Disney looks the other way, but he needs to be gone from the company.

Maybe they gave him the epidural last night by mistake?
 

PhotoDave219

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OK, so I didn't get to visit EPCOT for Flower and Garden Fest, so I was thinking about maybe heading back up this weekend. Not all that serious, but ...

I thought I would check rates for a last minute Easter Holiday at Walt Disney World. This is for a 4/19-4/22 stay ... so I could spend Easter Sunday at the World and a few days after.

Here's some of what I found in a quickee search:

ASMu/ (standard room) $158;
AoA (suite) $422;
BWI $537;
BLT (Studio) $607;
SSR (Studio) $431;
FW (cabin) $425;

Yes, those are all REAL rates ... now, let's play 'What the market really sustains.'

The Ritz-Carlton Orlando $258;

Gaylord Palms $179;

WDW Swan $159;

WDW Dolphin $149;

Hilton Bonnet Creek $149;

Hyatt Regency Grand Cypress $189;

Hilton DTD $109;

Sheraton LBV $106;

Wyndham LBV $82;

The Buena Vista Palace $102;

Sheraton Vistana Resort (TWO bedroom unit) $154 ... Now, if you would prefer to check-in tomorrow (Friday, April 18) for a five day getaway, the rates largely stay the same. And, if you book using a hotels.com coupon, you can reduce these rates by 12%. RealityLand anyone...?

Thoughts? Anyone? @ParentsOf4 ?

No wonder 192 was a disaster late at night.
 

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