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Bairstow

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The Mine Train officially opens May 28. Think Diagon Alley will be doing soft openings by then?

I think June is more realistic.
As of earlier this week there are still cherry pickers doing work all over the place and the dragon is yet to be hung. No employee previews yet either.
 

truecoat

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Mine Train will go down as an instant classic for it's intended market of families with small children.
Great job Disney. I was one who wasn't so sure after hearing all the insider talk on this ride.
But it really works as the headliner in fantasy land.

This ride will still be a hit in 10 years.

Even after half the dwarves are covered up or removed because they are non-functional. Instead of Disco Yeti, it will be Six Dwarves Mine Train or Five Dwarves Mine Train. The number might change daily.
 

bhg469

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Even after half the dwarves are covered up or removed because they are non-functional. Instead of Disco Yeti, it will be Six Dwarves Mine Train or Five Dwarves Mine Train. The number might change daily.
Well since their faces are projections they can be either blue screens of death, completely blank, or just masks. I have to admit the cottage scene looks very nice, classic animatronics and a great, memorable scene.
 

Rodan75

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DWA has made several moves recently to diversify their business - acquiring an online channel and Classic Media, their deal with Netflix, for instance. They're even building their own entertainment complex in Shanghai. Part of their motivation is probably to relieve the pressure brought on by a business model that is so reliant on box office performance. Despite their recent streak of underperforming movies, I don't think DWA is going to be swallowed up anytime soon.

I agree that they are diversifying, which is good, however they are still reliant on the film business with TV becoming a bigger part of their portfolio. I just don't understand the magic that Katzenberg is using to keep his hold over the company.
 

Goofyernmost

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Mine Train will go down as an instant classic for it's intended market of families with small children.
Great job Disney. I was one who wasn't so sure after hearing all the insider talk on this ride.
But it really works as the headliner in fantasy land.

This ride will still be a hit in 10 years.
I'm sorry but that is NOT a small child ride. Ages 10 to 14 maybe, but, not much younger then that any more then Thunder Mountain is a kiddie ride. I'm talking on average here, I know that some younger will ride it without having a screaming fit, but it is a risk with all but the excessively brave "small child".
 

CinematicFusion

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Even after half the dwarves are covered up or removed because they are non-functional. Instead of Disco Yeti, it will be Six Dwarves Mine Train or Five Dwarves Mine Train. The number might change daily.

I should say Ins
I'm sorry but that is NOT a small child ride. Ages 10 to 14 maybe, but, not much younger then that any more then Thunder Mountain is a kiddie ride. I'm talking on average here, I know that some younger will ride it without having a screaming fit, but it is a risk with all but the excessively brave "small child".

Yes it is Goofyermost. It is a ride for parents with small children. Ages 3-8 years will be the target. Most 3-4 year olds can't ride Thunder Mountain due to the 40" requirement. Many will love it...some will be scared to ride it. Most children that ride this ride will want to go over and over again. They just rode what in their mind is an adult coaster. They will have gotten over a fear...and it will be very exciting for them. Much like when kids don't want to go to the haunted mansion...until they ride it and fall in love with it.
We will see...and I will eat crow if I'm wrong. This is an instant classic for the target market.

Lets see what the majority of kids say after a year of operation.
 

doctornick

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I'm sorry but that is NOT a small child ride. Ages 10 to 14 maybe, but, not much younger then that any more then Thunder Mountain is a kiddie ride. I'm talking on average here, I know that some younger will ride it without having a screaming fit, but it is a risk with all but the excessively brave "small child".

I'm not sure where you are coming from, my 4 and 6 year old kids love BTMRR. And I don't think they are particularly noteworthy in that regard (we met up with another family that had a 7 year old who also loved it). Certainly some younger children might not like this ride due to the thrill level or due to being scarde by the witch at the end, but I think the typical pre-school/elementary school child woudl be fine and really enjoy it. Most kids at that age tolerate Barnstormer just fine and this doesn't seem to be much more intense and has interesting show scenes to boot.

By 10 to 14, I would think most kids are into larger more intense coasters (like the sort you find at a Six Flags or stuff like the Hulk or Dueling Dragons at Uni).
 

truecoat

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I'm sorry but that is NOT a small child ride. Ages 10 to 14 maybe, but, not much younger then that any more then Thunder Mountain is a kiddie ride. I'm talking on average here, I know that some younger will ride it without having a screaming fit, but it is a risk with all but the excessively brave "small child".

I had one of those excessively brave children. My daughter, who was tall for her age, was 3 years old when she rode the Demon at Six Flags Great America. One time was enough for her that trip. When we went back a couple years later, she rode everything she could get on and had the time of her life. She was very disappointed she couldn't ride the inverted Batman coaster.
 

RivieraJenn

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I'm sorry but that is NOT a small child ride. Ages 10 to 14 maybe, but, not much younger then that any more then Thunder Mountain is a kiddie ride. I'm talking on average here, I know that some younger will ride it without having a screaming fit, but it is a risk with all but the excessively brave "small child".

Sorry, but this ride definitely skews younger than 10 to 14. The 40" height requirement rides, like BTMRR and Splash, consistently attract guests who are at that height--on average ages 4 to 5. This ride looks significantly milder than BTMRR, and I don't see it being a problem for the same set of kids (and it has an even lower height requirement).

I think it looks like a fun ride. But it is definitely on the extremely low end of the thrill scale and perfectly appropriate for elementary school kids.
 

truecoat

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I guess you'll be able to get organic churros now? I kid.
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Fe Maiden

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I'm sorry but that is NOT a small child ride. Ages 10 to 14 maybe, but, not much younger then that any more then Thunder Mountain is a kiddie ride. I'm talking on average here, I know that some younger will ride it without having a screaming fit, but it is a risk with all but the excessively brave "small child".


Really? My 4yo daughter is already over Barnstormer now that she hit the all important 40" and rode BTMRR, not to mention Splash, TOT (her fave), TT, Soarin, etc. I'm sure my sons who are 9 &12 will like 7DMT but not over Space, RNR, or Everest.
 

Goofyernmost

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I should say Ins


Yes it is Goofyermost. It is a ride for parents with small children. Ages 3-8 years will be the target. Most 3-4 year olds can't ride Thunder Mountain due to the 40" requirement. Many will love it...some will be scared to ride it. Most children that ride this ride will want to go over and over again. They just rode what in their mind is an adult coaster. They will have gotten over a fear...and it will be very exciting for them. Much like when kids don't want to go to the haunted mansion...until they ride it and fall in love with it.
We will see...and I will eat crow if I'm wrong. This is an instant classic for the target market.

Lets see what the majority of kids say after a year of operation.
I don't disagree with the classic aspect of it, it is one of the best things that Disney has done in a long time. I do not, however, think that it is only going to be for that age group. I think many adults, including myself at 66 years old, will like it a lot and make it a must do, for years to come. I just don't think, regardless of their target, it will only hit that mark. That is what will make it a classic. It will, I'm sure, appeal to all ages and that is what constitutes a Disney Classic. When you get a Disney Classic it is because it is an attraction that both parents and children can enjoy together, and that means parents of all ages. I haven't gone to a Disney park with children in many years, yet, amazingly I still ride the rides and there isn't one that I can think of, that cannot, in some form or the other be called a "kiddie ride".

One doesn't need to be 40 inches tall to ride IASM, yet adults flock to it. The same goes for PoTC and others. Just because a ride doesn't pump up the adrenaline does not mean that it is only meant for kids.
 

Goofyernmost

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I'm not sure where you are coming from, my 4 and 6 year old kids love BTMRR. And I don't think they are particularly noteworthy in that regard (we met up with another family that had a 7 year old who also loved it). Certainly some younger children might not like this ride due to the thrill level or due to being scarde by the witch at the end, but I think the typical pre-school/elementary school child woudl be fine and really enjoy it. Most kids at that age tolerate Barnstormer just fine and this doesn't seem to be much more intense and has interesting show scenes to boot.

By 10 to 14, I would think most kids are into larger more intense coasters (like the sort you find at a Six Flags or stuff like the Hulk or Dueling Dragons at Uni).
You read it wrong. I know kids like it but it is not referred to by those that categorize things as a kiddie ride. And it shouldn't be. Barnstormer IS, without argument, a kiddie ride. Mine Train is not one exclusively.
 

Goofyernmost

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Really? My 4yo daughter is already over Barnstormer now that she hit the all important 40" and rode BTMRR, not to mention Splash, TOT (her fave), TT, Soarin, etc. I'm sure my sons who are 9 &12 will like 7DMT but not over Space, RNR, or Everest.
I am not trying to classify anything as just a kiddie ride, in fact, I am trying, in vain, to dispel that theory. However, there are some that are so bent on hating anything that Disney does, that find a need to put everything into categories instead of just liking whatever they like regardless of age.
 

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