Computer Magic
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Maybe Disney wanted the film to flop to drive down the cost of hiring Depp. The I made you, I can break you...
http://movies.yahoo.com/news/johnny-depps-tonto-tanks-lone-ranger-one-flop-003532612.html
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Taylor
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I don't think Rapid Fill is a horrible idea I usually reuse mugs but I see why Disney did it, now if it brought Dr.Pepper in the parks I would love it. And I agree with you Pacific Rim doesn't look too good.
bubbles1812
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Ya know Spirit, I just got back from LR. Reading stuff on here, I was genuinely skeptical of the very positive reaction it was getting... And then I saw it! It was so much fun! Count me as one very surprised gal.
I give it a solid B/B+ (some parts were admittedly better than others) and that final 20 minutes gets an A in my book. I would say I saw strains of Pirates in the movie, though not really so much in Depp's performance, rather, in a few of action sequences. But it wasnt so blatant that I thought this was "Jack goes West."
I would agree with those who say the movie could do with a bit of editing... Id say the original train sequence where John and Tonto meet was the action sequence most in need of trimming. The little boy and Tonto scenes were a nice framing device, but also could have been edited more.
The violence... Would also agree with those who say it is violence in the way Pirates, Harry Potter, LOTR were violent. Very stylized with very little blood for the most part. I didnt think the use of guns made it any more "real" than if swords had been used. I'm no prude, but truthfully I just didnt get why they had to imply he ate the heart. Maybe it would have made sense if they'd kept in the werewolves part of the plot, but since they didnt really explore Butch as a character all that much, I don't think it was necessary. But it is what it is, I suppose.
Overall, I solid film. Not Oscar material, but neither do I think it deserved the beating the critics gave it. Apparently as a collective whole, they lack a sense of humor. Oddly enough, my father, who is not a fan of Disney even wondered if the critics wanted to see "Disney fail." He is a business man and noticed how much glee people not associated with Disney were getting out of its failure. And then wondered why Disney themselves put the film out over 4th of July when the rest of the summer, in his words, "is home free." For me, I am genuinely sad that the possibility to get a sequel is next to nil, and I wouldn't mind seeing it a second time either.
Fair enough. Three years from now the same analysts will be talking about how 2013 was Bob Iger's "sell-by" date and this contract extension just created another Michael Eisner dilemma. They're just acting on the data that is presented to them, and Disney is damn efficient at producing good looking data to distract analysts.
Which, by the way, WHY IN THE HELL hasn't any newspaper big or small picked up on the imminent sale of Busch Gardens Williamsburg? It's not like SEAS is doing a good job of hiding it.
bubbles1812
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More like Transformers vs Godzilla. And it would appear its target demographic is 10-30 year old men. I have two brothers, 21 and 23, who want to see it. As they told me, they didnt exactly care how "good" from a plot or acting sense it will be. They just want to see some good monster on robot action. So yes, it is exactly like Transformers in that sense... Plot doesn't matter. The battles do. But PR obviously doesn't have the built in fans that Transformers came with so it'll be interesting to see how it does.
And oh one more thing about LR... Armie Hammer was finally in a movie where I liked him in it! So props to him..
articos
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I think the patterns this year are going to be out of the norm. My sense is June/July are not where they should be. But Spring was way over, and winter really just stormed right into spring. Strange.I'll pick on the weak summer.
Spent a good chunk of yesterday riding the Monorail (we have some WDW newbies with us this trip) and today at Universal. All seemed crowded but, and I think this is a big but, I have no way of telling whether it's 10% more or 10% less crowded than a typical summer day. 10% more crowded at WDW or Uni would have the execs dancing in the streets. 10% less crowded would have them looking for new jobs.
So ...
Unless someone has access to the numbers or a sense of how execs are reacting, I can't for the life of me understand how anyone can claim they know what's going on by just first-hand exposure. Even if you work at the parks, the ebb and flow of the crowd varies so much that it's extremely difficult for one person in one place to get an accurate count of attendance.
Everything is bad for you. Life is incredibly fatal. ... I'll enjoy soda and juice and wine and tequila and vodka and coffee and etc etc.
I'll still wind up dead as will the fanbois who apparently aren't just afraid of coffee, booze and gals, but sodie pop too. I'm telling ya this book writes itself. I can just pull an Eddie Sotto and cull my posts and the responses from years of being online ...
Taylor
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When people tell me to cut out pop so that I could live longer I tell them "what's the point of living longer if you're miserable." And then they shut up.
Can't say there's a ton, but there are two options that fit the bill for me. I love Kessler's Grand Bohemian, which is probably the best (and only) example of what you're looking for in Orlando. Yes, it's a Marriott (formerly a Westin), but it's only flagged that way, and as soon as you walk in, it doesn't look or feel like a corporate chain in any way. The property itself is owned by Kessler, and he considers this one of his flagship Boutiques. His personal art collection is scattered throughout, as is a one-of-a-kind Bosendorfer piano in the lounge - sometimes the bar is fun, but if it's dead, just walk outside and find a place downtown. Good-to-great service, comfortable luxurious rooms and a great location for exploring downtown, which has a multitude of hip-ish (for Orlando) local spots to explore. Right downtown: Pine 22, Harp & Celt, Hue and a ton of others...then walk over to Thornton Park by way of Lake Eola and check out Dexter's and Graffiti Junktion...Also The Ravenous Pig in Winter Park and a whole bunch of places on Park Avenue, which is one of my favorite walking streets. Baldwin Park is a new neighborhood that's a reuse of the old Naval Base property and is filling in with some great neighborhood trendy places. It's not NYC or Portland, but for Central FL, it's getting there. My other hotel choice for a fun place to stay is Hard Rock at Universal. Feels boutique-y, fun lounge, and right off of CityWalk and the parks. I know Kimpton has been looking around in Orlando, so if they eventually bite, there will be another good trendy place to stay. I don't think it's Ace territory - still a little too down-south for Ace, but Bohemian's a nice start. And...there's always the Poly.
There are hips districts practically everywhere these days. I can't believe the little artsy fartsy community that has sprung up in Delray Beach, formerly known largely for where famous (and non) folks' grandparents go to die. It is quite nice, but the point is not every community is still gonna be hip ... it feels like a nice little enclave for artists and trust fund kids etc who can't afford truly hip locales (like say SoBe, about 70 miles to the south).
Think of it this way: if everywhere is hip, then nowhere really is.
GoofGoof
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...or you could just grab a bottle of coke at the gift shop and put it in your pocket and walk out.
I love it. It is up there with WL for my favorite WDW resort. We had a savanna view (that I think may have been classified as standard by DVC because part of the 'people pen' was under half our balcony ... all I know is when we were out on it at 2 a.m. I saw giraffes below and plenty of wild life every day).
I'm up to close to 100 nights there since 2001 (yes, there was a time when I was a Pixie Dust addict --takes one to know many!) It truly is unique in resorts in the USA because of its design, wildlife, art and cuisine.
Even better when your traveling companion owns DVC so it costs you (ME!) nothing to stay there!
spaceghost
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Pacific Rim is essentially a tribute to the classic kaiju films from Japan (you know, Godzilla, etc.). More than any other movie this summer, I've been looking forward to this one. Advance reviews seem to indicate that it is well done. I think comparing it to the Transformers movies does it a great disservice. (In fairness, I haven't seen the movie yet, but those films were horrid - talk about ruining someone's childhood dreams...Mr. Lucas ain't got nothin' on Mr. Bay.) Guillermo Del Toro has geek cred and my feeling from the trailers and advance hype is that he pulled it off. FWIW, I am a 38 y/o geek, if that puts things in context.
GoofGoof
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I know you are half joking, but its a book I would read...as long as you make it available on kindle
I believe @HenryMystic is asking me to shed light on occupancy? We did a split stay at SSR and WL (2 nights at each), and while SSR felt fairly busy, Wilderness Lodge did not. We only booked the trip about 3 weeks in advance, and even at that point, several popular DVC properties were still available for booking (BoardWalk, AKV, VWL, etc.). The only night of our trip that was sold out just about everywhere (besides OKW and SSR) was the 4th itself. This was surprising given that it was shortly before a very popular travel time. Due to the point charts, "popular travel time" for DVC members doesn't always jive with "peak season," but I still expected more difficulty in booking a July 4th trip at the last minute...
WL itself seemed pretty dead at almost all times of the day. On a couple of occasions, we had boats all to ourselves. Roaring Fork was never busy when we went there, either.
We were in the water parks during the day for the 4th and 5th so I can't really speak to crowds those days (besides at the water parks--which were busy but not unbearably so) except at night; DHS was moderately busy on the 4th and MK was very busy on the night of the 5th.
Epcot was dead midday on 6th. Definitely the least crowded we've seen it since February 2012. MK was light the evening of the 6th and crowds were moderate yesterday. If you took the tour groups out of the mix, it would have been light both day. Of course, these experiences are anecdotal, but it sure didn't feel like peak season over the weekend--not even close.
We normally avoid WDW from June until September due to humidity and crowds, but neither were too bad. I was expecting the worst, but it turned out to be quite a pleasant trip.
Oh, and I may only sleep an hour and 32 minutes per night, but that doesn't mean I only spend that amount of time at the resort. My wife needs more sleep than me to function, so I actually spend a good amount of time wandering around the resorts. I'll grant you that the bed at a place like WL is a waste for someone who sleeps as little as me, though.
In other words, your wife is not only vastly better looking than you but she also is far saner ... who would have guessed?!?!
novawildcat18
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Just got back with TLR and I agree with mostly everything that's been said on here. I was thoroughly entertained. That's the purpose of a movie, right?
Action was phenomenal, a lot of the jokes landed (for me, anyway), and although I've never been into Westerns, the whole environment/feel of the movie was really interesting.
I really didn't think the violence was too bad but my friend turned to me halfway through and said, "A little violent for a Disney movie, don't ya think?" so I can understand why some people feel that way.
Thought Hammer was great and that Depp actually performed really well, and it wasn't too Sparrow-esque as I expected. HATED the story-within-a-story but did enjoy Depp playing an old man.
Overall, I'm really disappointed that it bombed and I wish more people had an open-mind to go see it because I honestly think that the general public would enjoy this movie if they saw it.
Action was phenomenal, a lot of the jokes landed (for me, anyway), and although I've never been into Westerns, the whole environment/feel of the movie was really interesting.
I really didn't think the violence was too bad but my friend turned to me halfway through and said, "A little violent for a Disney movie, don't ya think?" so I can understand why some people feel that way.
Thought Hammer was great and that Depp actually performed really well, and it wasn't too Sparrow-esque as I expected. HATED the story-within-a-story but did enjoy Depp playing an old man.
Overall, I'm really disappointed that it bombed and I wish more people had an open-mind to go see it because I honestly think that the general public would enjoy this movie if they saw it.
stevehousse
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Can't believe that LR only did about $30 million compared to the $82+ million DM2 did!
And I totally agree about Pacific Rim, it looks awful! It's basically transformers fighting Godzilla like monsters! No thank you....
And I totally agree about Pacific Rim, it looks awful! It's basically transformers fighting Godzilla like monsters! No thank you....
jensenrick
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Wouldn't Dark Shadows have taken care of that already?
P.S. - I didn't see that Depp movie either, just like I won't see this one. Anyone want to fight about that?
Solve? I don't see that as the purpose of these forums. We're here to talk about themed entertainment and WDW in particular because, it can be assumed, we enjoy those things.
Personally, I'm here to either educate and/or entertain ... and, possibly, to annoy some people in the exec suites.
SW is clearly having financial issues, largely a debt burden. Part of those cutbacks looks like an almost definite sale of BGW and, possibly, BGT.
the.dreamfinder
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Here's a twitter review of Pacific Rim from someone I really respect; Hideo Kojima
Calvin Coolidge
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Everything about Pacific Rim looks amazing to me; it's gotten great reception at screenings from people whose opinions I value. Trailer looks awesome, cast is first rate, effects look great, story seems solid. Gundam meets Gojira as only Guillermo del Toro could tell it. It's not tracking especially strong, but 1. it's nice to see something not from a franchise get a tentpole budget and 2. I think word-of-mouth is gonna be really strong on it, based on the reception it's gotten so far.
I didn't realize how much of AKL is devoted to DVC. I guess it shouldn't surprise me, but it does. I've never stayed there but always sort of wanted to; I mostly stay at Royal Pacific over at Uni because the advantages you get from staying on property there seriously, seriously outweigh the benefits of staying at WDW.
I didn't realize how much of AKL is devoted to DVC. I guess it shouldn't surprise me, but it does. I've never stayed there but always sort of wanted to; I mostly stay at Royal Pacific over at Uni because the advantages you get from staying on property there seriously, seriously outweigh the benefits of staying at WDW.
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