El Grupo
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Alice in Wonderland (2010) and Pirates 4 (2011) each pulled in over $1 billion worldwide. Not a bad return for either film.
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Alice in Wonderland (2010) and Pirates 4 (2011) each pulled in over $1 billion worldwide. Not a bad return for either film.
I was thinking just that, but I also heard somewhere (here maybe?) that the model was in TDO's lobby for a bit ... have no idea where it is now.
bubbles1812
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And Oz just did really well... Though I'm not sure what the total pull for that was.
True, but I don't know if Amazon was even around when Virgin opened (I know I wasn't using it!) and people (some anyway) still enjoy buying books and music in an actual store. I am one of them ... a dying breed, no doubt.
Taylor
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On Stranger Tides made over a billion. That was two years ago I think.
the.dreamfinder
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It didn't get into the black.
But they can't afford to have all of that space empty when they are adding and replacing other locales in this new project. I think it would fatally wound the project if Splitsville shuttered anytime before Disney Springs new vision is half completed.
Taylor
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Around 500 million.
englanddg
One Little Spark...
What Disney really is searching for is a "Mermaid - Lion King" run...
Pixar extended that with Toy Story, but wrong demographic...and wrong style. The animated musical (the music is part of what kids get addicted to, and something lacking from Pixar releases, etc...)
My point is...a whole generation grew up singing songs from Disney movies...then in the late 90s, they hit jackpot, and a whole new generation grew up also singing songs from Disney movies.
They seek this, and need it, as now those of us who grew up during the second age, our kids are reaching the age of not-believing...and they need to do something quick. Fast blast high profit action films like Pirates will work, forgettable ones like Oz will also make money, for nostalgia...
But, until they find new stories to tell with a Menkin / Rice or Sherman Brothers level composition team again, and recruit them to turn great animated films into animated musicals...they will be lacking. And, their brand will suffer in the long run. As will Pixar.
Just my opinion.
Rapunzel was probably the closest they've been to this dynamic in a very long time.
Pixar extended that with Toy Story, but wrong demographic...and wrong style. The animated musical (the music is part of what kids get addicted to, and something lacking from Pixar releases, etc...)
My point is...a whole generation grew up singing songs from Disney movies...then in the late 90s, they hit jackpot, and a whole new generation grew up also singing songs from Disney movies.
They seek this, and need it, as now those of us who grew up during the second age, our kids are reaching the age of not-believing...and they need to do something quick. Fast blast high profit action films like Pirates will work, forgettable ones like Oz will also make money, for nostalgia...
But, until they find new stories to tell with a Menkin / Rice or Sherman Brothers level composition team again, and recruit them to turn great animated films into animated musicals...they will be lacking. And, their brand will suffer in the long run. As will Pixar.
Just my opinion.
Rapunzel was probably the closest they've been to this dynamic in a very long time.
I also enjoyed the first Despicable Me -- much more so than I would have thought going into it. The story of Gru taking to the three girls had a lot of heart, and the Minions added just the right amount of humor.
The general complaint I've heard about DM2 is the fact that the Minions kind of take over the movie. Considering they have their own movie coming out next year, I would have preferred the actual DM sequel to focus on Gru and the girls.
englanddg
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Universal knows what markets, and markets it.
Minions market to kids. Gru and the girls make the story palatable for adults.
I am a VERY generous man in countless ways (humility isn't one of them, though) ... but I won't call Lone Ranger bad when I haven't seen it yet and everyone I know that has (and I respect all of them, even @Lee) says it is good or very good and is getting slammed unfairly. I know what it's like to be slammed unfairly and it isn't fun. It can even leave rug burn and broken bones.
As to Cars 2 and Brave, they are likely my least favorite Pixar films along with A Bug's Life, which I have only seen once and haven't seen a need to revisit. But they aren't bad at all. Brave is quite good and Cars 2 is fair.
Oh, and on the Five Guys fries ... you are just flat wrong. I know my food from fast to five star. Those are damn fine fries.
PhotoDave219
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Mrs. Lee is Merida's double ... but she certainly is no princess and I doubt she'd like to be referred to as a queen because she associated queens with Disney fanbois! Perhaps Goddess ...
I have not met Mrs. Lee but I would assume that she is a goddess.
One would assume. Or inagine. Probably a bit like Merida & a bit like Scarlett Johansen from the Avengers in a skintight leather outfit that just makes you want [REDACTED FOR SENSATIVE VIEWERS]
Computer Magic
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I actually agree with that statement. As great as Pixar is, really don't have the same musical behind the film. Sure "You have a friend in me" is catchy. But Pixar music doesn't stick like "'Circle of Life", ''Whole new World" or even Phil Collins hits. These songs hit the top billboard charts and kept the move fresh in you mind. Even won Grammies.
Pirates 4 is interesting in that it did significantly worse in the U.S. than Pirates 3 (which in turn did worse than Pirates 2), but significantly better outside the U.S. than Pirates 3. It was Pirates 4's huge overseas take that helped it gross over $1 billion worldwide. I'm curious to see whether Johnny Depp's star power outside the U.S. can help salvage Lone Ranger's overall box office.
Ice Age is another franchise that has seen diminishing returns in the U.S., but growing popularity abroad. The last Ice Age couldn't muster $200 million in the U.S., but exceeded $700 million outside the U.S. Kind of hard to predict these things, sometimes...
the.dreamfinder
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Kim Masters' interview with Alan Horn that spirit referred to.
http://hollywoodreporter.com/news/alan-horn-lone-ranger-risks-577825
http://hollywoodreporter.com/news/alan-horn-lone-ranger-risks-577825
Never saw John Carter. I only had the slightest interest and the reviews -- and the trigger finger writeoff -- killed it for me.
Disney had a huge blockbuster with Alice in Wonderland three years ago. And the last two PoC films certainly qualified (even if the last one caused a family member to fall asleep during the screening). Oz could have been if it hadn't of cost so much. ... And I think Enchanted was a huge hit with a smallish budget, but can't recall off-hand. Tangled has been, even if it wasn't in initial domestic release, because of the ability to use the characters across multiple platforms etc (that's Igerspeak for suck it dry!) Why do I feel like I'm skipping something?
Last I heard, it had ... amazing what a film like that has to do to be in the black.
No, every film can't cost $150-275 million just to make, Mr. Weatherman.
Taylor
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Ralph maybe?
And counting ...
On that subject, before folks write off Long Ranger, please understand that westerns are extremely popular in Europe and the film doesn't unspool before some key market audiences UNTIL AUGUST.
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