Spirited News, Observations & Thoughts IV

[PeterAlt]

Cameron is great. My vote for creativity goes to JJ Abrams though. Overall, Cameron is more accomplished but Abrams can really keep you on the edge of your seat. Taking on Star Trek was an extremely tough challenge and IMO he pulled it off great and opened the door to so many possibilities for future movies. Fringe and Lost are in a league of their own as far as tv shows go. (if your into those kinda shows).

JJ Abrams was the best choice for Star Wars, but he's still no (early) Lucas, Cameron, or Spielberg.

 

[PeterAlt]

You'd have to think that the already massive budget for the next Avatar movie just got even bigger. Cameron would have to be crazy to not ask Disney for some $$$ after they made this huge commitment to basically transform an entire park around this franchise. Disney won't want to build all of these attractions based upon another "meh" Avatar movie.

Perhaps, with a little Disney influence, Avatar 2 will not only be visually impressive, but a quality film as well.

Cameron is King Midas. He would have nothing to do with Avatar 2 if any of his standards were compromised.

 

[the.dreamfinder]

You never saw Alien?

I think you meant Aliens.

 

[some guy]

You never saw Alien?

Cameron was Aliens, the sequel where they carried on the tradition of "military vs monsters" movies like Them!

I wonder if there's any decent video coverage of the old UK Aliens attractions?

 

[OldBill71]

Cameron is King Midas. He would have nothing to do with Avatar 2 if any of his standards were compromised.

Avatar was obviously, a very successful movie $ wise, but I don't think I've talked to one person or read one message board post by someone who thought the movie was anything more than a visually impressive movie that had very little "guts" to it. The plot was predictable, the acting was sub-par and the dialogue was poorly written.

Movies can make $$$ on cool visuals, but true classics need more than "cool effects."

Independence Day is fun to look back on and think about how "awesome" it was when it first came out, but I don't think anybody is watching it over and over again for its strong acting or engaging plot lines. Same thing goes for Avatar

 

[some guy]

I think you meant Aliens.

lol aliensmind

 

[englanddg]

I think you meant Aliens.

Yes, you are correct. I'll blame my keyboard. Thanks.

 

[unkadug]

Yes, you are correct. I'll blame my keyboard. Thanks.

I blame Meg.

 

[englanddg]

I blame Meg.

That works too.

 

[JenniferS]

You never saw Alien?

Nope. Nor, Aliens.

I did, however, see Terminator when I was a teenager. There was a line where Arnie says "F-you, A-hole".
My father shortened that to plain old "Terminator".
For years, my brothers and I would growl "Terminator" at each other whenever we were fighting.

 

[some guy]

I blame Meg.

keyboard budgets were slashed, no third shift key replacements, the usual

 

[PeterAlt]

Avatar was obviously, a very successful movie $ wise, but I don't think I've talked to one person or read one message board post by someone who thought the movie was anything more than a visually impressive movie that had very little "guts" to it. The plot was predictable, the acting was sub-par and the dialogue was poorly written.

Movies can make $$$ on cool visuals, but true classics need more than "cool effects."

Independence Day is fun to look back on and think about how "awesome" it was when it first came out, but I don't think anybody is watching it over and over again for its strong acting or engaging plot lines. Same thing goes for Avatar

No, I disagree. There was actually a scientific study that studied the effects Avatar had on people. Under hypnosis, a scary percentage of people claimed that they experienced the scenes first hand and it was real. As a control, they asked them about scenes from other movies and no one claimed to have experience those in real life and that what was described were from movies. No other movie in history has had that kind of effect on people. Only a master film maker and a master work of art can achieve something like that

 

[unkadug]

No, I disagree. There was actually a scientific study that studied the effects Avatar had on people. Under hypnosis, a scary percentage of people claimed that they experienced the scenes first hand and it was real. As a control, they asked them about scenes from other movies and no one claimed to have experience those in real life and that what was described were from movies. No other movie in history has had that kind of effect on people. Only a master film maker and a master work of art can achieve something like that

Link please?

 

[flyerjab]

Go to Tim's thread for that then. Let's leave that junk out of this one.

Agreed.

 

[unkadug]

Go to Tim's thread for that then. Let's leave that junk out of this one.

what thread is Tim's thread?

 

[Captain Chaos]

Yes, you are correct. I'll blame my keyboard. Thanks.

I'll blame your blogging dog....

 

[OldBill71]

No, I disagree. There was actually a scientific study that studied the effects Avatar had on people. Under hypnosis, a scary percentage of people claimed that they experienced the scenes first hand and it was real. As a control, they asked them about scenes from other movies and no one claimed to have experience those in real life and that what was described were from movies. No other movie in history has had that kind of effect on people. Only a master film maker and a master work of art can achieve something like that

So they tested every other movie in history to see if people "experienced" the movie in their dreams?

There are Avatar crazies, just like there are Disney crazies and Star Wars crazies and My Little Pony crazies. Having crazy people think your movie was good doesn't mean it was good.

Avatar had great visuals. Aside from that, it didn't have anything of lasting value, in my opinion.

 

[PeterAlt]

So they tested every other movie in history to see if people "experienced" the movie in their dreams?

There are Avatar crazies, just like there are Disney crazies and Star Wars crazies and My Little Pony crazies. Having crazy people think your movie was good doesn't mean it was good.

Avatar had great visuals. Aside from that, it didn't have anything of lasting value, in my opinion.

Then why is it the highest grossing film? I think people who criticize it and James Cameron are jealous of their success.

By the way, they didn't test every film. It was a random sampling that included classics like Star Wars, Ben Hurr, Casablanca, Psycho, Wizard of Oz, 2001, etc. Did I just name half the movies on Great Movie Ride?

 

[GoofGoof]

No, I disagree. There was actually a scientific study that studied the effects Avatar had on people. Under hypnosis, a scary percentage of people claimed that they experienced the scenes first hand and it was real. As a control, they asked them about scenes from other movies and no one claimed to have experience those in real life and that what was described were from movies. No other movie in history has had that kind of effect on people. Only a master film maker and a master work of art can achieve something like that

I love this post. I have no idea if it's true or not, but I just love it anyway. You are either a very knowledgeable guy or smoking some great stuff. Either way carry on.

 

[unkadug]

Then why is it the highest grossing film? I think people who criticize it and James Cameron are jealous of their success.

By the way, they didn't test every film. It was a random sampling that included classics like Star Wars, Ben Hurr, Casablanca, Psycho, Wizard of Oz, 2001, etc. Did I just name half the movies on Great Movie Ride?

I still want to see this study.