Spirited News, Observations & Thoughts IV

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tissandtully

tissandtully

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71jason said:
There's a difference between taking a comment personally and pointing out it's juvenile and adds nothing to the conversation the grown-ups are having.
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Wow, you guys, simmer down. Three words got all this response? We really need more WDW news, haha. I don't feel like I need to say anything else, just having fun watching all you folks squirm when you take my comments the wrong way.
 
flynnibus

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MerlinTheGoat said:
I disregarded nothing, you apparently didn't even read the source yourself if you think there's nothing insulting about the way it was used here (and is often used around the net). Here's a popular definition of the word hater as taken from that source-
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You're getting your panties in a bunch over the simple use.. which is the first freaking paragraph on your page

"Haters Gonna Hate is a catchphrase used to indicate a disregard for hostile remarks addressed towards the speaker"

She was just being dismissive. Then you try to elevate the phrase to some monster... claiming "it was invented as an internet meme to be antagonistic in nature since it first started being used. It is a phrase often used to accuse someone else of being jealous, in a show-offish and trolling kind of way"

It wasn't invented to be antagonistic... but as your own cite says.. to simply blow off or disregard the criticism. Nor are people using it trying to show-offs or trolling. Nor was it a meme first (or used as a meme here..). You took offense because you looked at yourself as being on the other side of tissandtully's comments.. so you considered yourself being grouped as a 'hater' and took offense.

MerlinTheGoat said:
Point i'm trying to make (and I could be wrong but I get the feeling this is how it came across to other people here)- The response calling people haters felt less like an "i'm disagreeing but have no argument", and more of a "lol, u mad bro?" type of response..
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It was nothing more than being dismissive vs not wanting to dive into a point by point.

Lighten up Francis... (you can look that one up too)
 
tissandtully

tissandtully

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flynnibus said:
You're getting your panties in a bunch over the simple use.. which is the first freaking paragraph on your page

"Haters Gonna Hate is a catchphrase used to indicate a disregard for hostile remarks addressed towards the speaker"

She was just being dismissive. Then you try to elevate the phrase to some monster... claiming "it was invented as an internet meme to be antagonistic in nature since it first started being used. It is a phrase often used to accuse someone else of being jealous, in a show-offish and trolling kind of way"

It wasn't invented to be antagonistic... but as your own cite says.. to simply blow off or disregard the criticism. Nor are people using it trying to show-offs or trolling. Nor was it a meme first (or used as a meme here..). You took offense because you looked at yourself as being on the other side of tissandtully's comments.. so you considered yourself being grouped as a 'hater' and took offense.



It was nothing more than being dismissive vs not wanting to dive into a point by point.

Lighten up Francis... (you can look that one up too)
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This. Thank you @flynnibus. I know we've had our disagreements, but apparently you know how to read context.
 
luv

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flynnibus said:
You're getting your panties in a bunch over the simple use.. which is the first freaking paragraph on your page

"Haters Gonna Hate is a catchphrase used to indicate a disregard for hostile remarks addressed towards the speaker"

She was just being dismissive. Then you try to elevate the phrase to some monster... claiming "it was invented as an internet meme to be antagonistic in nature since it first started being used. It is a phrase often used to accuse someone else of being jealous, in a show-offish and trolling kind of way"

It wasn't invented to be antagonistic... but as your own cite says.. to simply blow off or disregard the criticism. Nor are people using it trying to show-offs or trolling. Nor was it a meme first (or used as a meme here..). You took offense because you looked at yourself as being on the other side of tissandtully's comments.. so you considered yourself being grouped as a 'hater' and took offense.



It was nothing more than being dismissive vs not wanting to dive into a point by point.

Lighten up Francis... (you can look that one up too)
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There were no hostile remarks addressed to the speaker. There were no hostile remarks, period.

She wasn't just being dismissive. She was being deliberately, overtly and conspicuously ("show-off") dismissive.

There is no way that calling someone a "hater" is not an insult. Insults are antagonistic, per se.

I don't actually care that much. I take it for what it is worth, lol. But lets not pretend it wasn't what it was. Over? Done with? Absolutely.
 
MerlinTheGoat

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tissandtully said:
Wow, you guys, simmer down. Three words got all this response? We really need more WDW news, haha. I don't feel like I need to say anything else, just having fun watching all you folks squirm when you take my comments the wrong way.
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All we needed to hear about your true intentions (though I can't figure why it wasn't already blatantly obvious to some). Admitting to "enjoying watching people squirm" as you put it paints a supremely crystal clear picture of your character and intentions for everyone here to see. It reveals in an even more obvious manner that you did indeed post that comment in order to get a rise out of people and admit to enjoying the ensuing drama. Any other way your comment could have been taken went flying out the window with that admission.

luv said:
There were no hostile remarks addressed to the speaker. There were no hostile remarks, period.

She wasn't just being dismissive. She was being deliberately, overtly and conspicuously ("show-off") dismissive.

There is no way that calling someone a "hater" is not an insult, which is, in fact, antagonistic.

I don't actually care that much. I take it for what it is worth, lol. But lets not pretend it wasn't what it was. Over? Done with? Absolutely.
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Well said. Anyone who doesn't realize calling someone a hater is an insult can't have experienced it being used often. It's almost never a word or phrase used in friendly and respectful context in regards to arguments. It's actually quite similar to the also often troll-like response to a disagreement- "u mad bro?". Almost always used to pointlessly mock the recipient without adding any decent rebuttal.
 
PhotoDave219

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tissandtully said:
Agreed, used ours for our trip this past weekend and it was great. Haters gonna hate.
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Now I see where all this came from.....


Make no mistake. I'm. Not in live with the concept at all. Mine just works.

I still have plenty of reason to dislike this program mainly because he drew serious money away from rehabilitations and investments and building and growing the audience further. Monies slated for other projects were put on hold or canceled because we had to get a sweaty wristband.

At least it works… Some of the time.
 
Goofyernmost

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PhotoDave219 said:
Now I see where all this came from.....


Make no mistake. I'm. Not in live with the concept at all. Mine just works.

I still have plenty of reason to dislike this program mainly because he drew serious money away from rehabilitations and investments and building and growing the audience further. Monies slated for other projects were put on hold or canceled because we had to get a sweaty wristband.

At least it works… Some of the time.
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That, again, didn't take anything from the rehab and investment and building funds. Completely separate pile of allocated money. If they never would have thought of Magic Bands they still wouldn't have been building anything, because that isn't were they are at for the moment. I think they are waiting it out. See how much power Uni has in the tank and what they are designing and what is popular. Then, at some point down the road, will expand again after Uni has blown all their development money. Time will tell, but I really think that is, at least, part of what is going on.
 
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Goofyernmost said:
That, again, didn't take anything from the rehab and investment and building funds. Completely separate pile of allocated money. If they never would have thought of Magic Bands they still wouldn't have been building anything, because that isn't were they are at for the moment. I think they are waiting it out. See how much power Uni has in the tank and what they are designing and what is popular. Then, at some point down the road, will expand again after Uni has blown all their development money. Time will tell, but I really think that is, at least, part of what is going on.
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Given how quickly Disney currently takes to build a single small attraction, after Universal has 'blown all their development money', they will probably still have enough time to accrue more capital off their investment that they will be funding another expansion before Disney has decided how to respond.
 
PeterAlt

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Food for thought...

The skate park at Festival Bay Mall without reason announced they are closing shop. This has some local business owners scratching their head because the skate park has been highly successful. Why would a highly successful business just shut its doors without giving an explanation?

I mentioned on another thread that several years ago (pre-Iger), plans were almost set in motion that would have expanded the current ESPN sports complex into an action and sports themed park.

A skate park would be a natural expansion for ESPN. I'm not saying the plans are back on to make a full fledged Fifth Gate out of ESPN. It would make sense to incrementally add stuff for a very slow evolution into a Fifth Gate theme park.

Very strange why that skate park would close without explanation and a skate park at ESPN would make perfect sense as the next step in a slow evolution expansion of the complex...

Think about it. This wouldn't be the first time Disney would allow a third party business on its premises...
 
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