Spirited News, Observations & Thoughts IV

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ford91exploder

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You really think WDW only had 427 part-timers working more than 30hrs a week? Just how many College Program kids do you think are on property??

Meanwhile, the same TWDC has been cutting hours for DLR employees to ensure they stay UNDER the limit.

This 'annoucement' sounds of spin spin spin city.


That announcement needs non-contact magnetic bearings it's spinning so fast...
 

Funmeister

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You really think WDW only had 427 part-timers working more than 30hrs a week? Just how many College Program kids do you think are on property??

Meanwhile, the same TWDC has been cutting hours for DLR employees to ensure they stay UNDER the limit.

This 'annoucement' sounds of spin spin spin city.


It stinks. The company has 25,000+ casual regulars (part timers) in Florida. 427 is nothing.
 

GoofGoof

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You really think WDW only had 427 part-timers working more than 30hrs a week? Just how many College Program kids do you think are on property??

Meanwhile, the same TWDC has been cutting hours for DLR employees to ensure they stay UNDER the limit.

This 'annoucement' sounds of spin spin spin city.

I'm too familiar with the fine print of the act, but if there are really more qualified workers then the 427 quote in the article won't they risk facing the $2,000 fine? Are college students exempt? If a company hires a full time summer intern will they have to offer benefits now? To me that makes no sense.
 

Darth Sidious

Authentically Disney Distinctly Chinese
I'm too familiar with the fine print of the act, but if there are really more qualified workers then the 427 quote in the article won't they risk facing the $2,000 fine? Are college students exempt? If a company hires a full time summer intern will they have to offer benefits now? To me that makes no sense.

Non full time workers need to enroll in a program or face an IRS fine.
 

GoofGoof

Premium Member
Non full time workers need to enroll in a program or face an IRS fine.

Including summer interns? It's going to be a rough time being a college kid these days. A lot of companies were already cutting back on internship programs. This will cripple the amount of summer jobs available. I'm not that into politics. Maybe I should pay more attention.
 

Nubs70

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Including summer interns? It's going to be a rough time being a college kid these days. A lot of companies were already cutting back on internship programs. This will cripple the amount of summer jobs available. I'm not that into politics. Maybe I should pay more attention.
All "children" up to age 26 are covered under parents policy.
 

ThemeParkJunkee

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Right now, those crazy swinging babes are the reason Leanne J and Gary B largely have jobs.

Which brings me to an inescapble conclusion and something that I wanted to write about, but haven't had the time ...yet, is something we've all been discusing on numerous threads at many times whether we consciously connected things or not.

Connect Please.

Simply put, Disney is using technology and social media platforms to cover for a stale crappy product. Above all other excuses, those two things have allowed Disney to coast off of what it created in the 70s, 80s and 90s. ... Whether it's MM+ or a Mommy Blogger from Miami, they are designed to take your mind off of reality ... they are in essence pixie dust for the masses.

I have used message boards to help plan and understand and am tired of words like "magical", "awesome", "fantastic" and "delicious" used to describe things I find to be "adequate". Thank you for pointing out the shortcomings of social media and the inherent conflict of interest involved with those who accept "freebies" from Disney.

I really do want to delve further into this, but I have to get back to the real world.

Do Come Back.

Now, let's see what gets more attention, what I wrote above or what I am about to post:

Watched ABC's Tuesday lineup again. Not at all impressed with S.H.I.E.L.D., it is mediocre at best ... and the Goldbergs are even worse. Please, bois, take off your Incredible Hulk undies and admit that the ABC Marvel product isn't very good at all. They'll still let you into the club.

Yes, I've watched two episodes and I'm bored by everything but the "preview" of the new Thor Movie.
 

flynnibus

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@WDW1974 what are your thought on Disney World giving part time workers the option of switching to fulltime to get more benefits from the Affordable healthcare act?

http://thinkprogress.org/health/2013/10/02/2716951/disney-world-obamacare-promote-full-time/

For once.. the Orlando Sentinel article is far more interesting than the national news...
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/busi...e-jobs-to-part-timers-20131002,0,362084.story

The offer may be far more devious than one might think.
 

englanddg

One Little Spark...
So if you hire a part time or summer worker who is under 26 they are exempt? I'm guessing then the college program workers would all be exempt.
Only if they work less than 30 hours a week. If so, then the employer is exempt from the employer mandate for that employee (regardless of the age of the employee).

The indvidiual mandate still stands, however. CP workers would be required to provide proof of insurance (either a personal policy or through their parents insurance) to the IRS.
 

flynnibus

Premium Member
So if you hire a part time or summer worker who is under 26 they are exempt? I'm guessing then the college program workers would all be exempt.

If you are a part time worker.. the EMPLOYER doesn't have to give you money for insurance... you however are still required to have medical insurance. Be it through the exchanges, your parents, etc.

People that don't make a lot are the ones most disrupted by the law.. because they see it as being forced to buy something they think they can't afford. There are lots of subsidies, etc to help with that.

The definition of part time can be tricky when looking at short term employees. The general principle is you average 30hrs a week... but average over what period? By extending the measurement period, employers can effectively lower your average hours a week. What the measurement period is.. is complicated, but to OVERLY simplify it.. think 3m-12m... but it must be applied uniformly to all employees of the same type.
 

GoofGoof

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For once.. the Orlando Sentinel article is far more interesting than the national news...
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/busi...e-jobs-to-part-timers-20131002,0,362084.story

The offer may be far more devious than one might think.
So basically they are making a 1 time offer to people who were over the threshold last year. Going forward they are going to make sure no part time workers exceed the threshold.

The last part about cutting benefits completely for part time workers is really a shame. Something is better than nothing. From a selfish standpoint I can't imagine how much the ticket prices would go up if they offered 24,000 workers higher level benefits.
 

flynnibus

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I'm too familiar with the fine print of the act, but if there are really more qualified workers then the 427 quote in the article won't they risk facing the $2,000 fine? Are college students exempt? If a company hires a full time summer intern will they have to offer benefits now? To me that makes no sense.

A company like Disney has to offer coverage to it's full timers...

The challenge is measuring who is full time. There is the idea of what you are expected to work... and methods to measure what you work.

The union play in this is because the definition of 'full time' isn't just about the Health Insurance requirement. Because of the collective bargaining, full time as recognized by the company and union comes with other things like guaranteed hours, etc.
 

GoofGoof

Premium Member
If you are a part time worker.. the EMPLOYER doesn't have to give you money for insurance... you however are still required to have medical insurance. Be it through the exchanges, your parents, etc.

People that don't make a lot are the ones most disrupted by the law.. because they see it as being forced to buy something they think they can't afford. There are lots of subsidies, etc to help with that.

The definition of part time can be tricky when looking at short term employees. The general principle is you average 30hrs a week... but average over what period? By extending the measurement period, employers can effectively lower your average hours a week. What the measurement period is.. is complicated, but to OVERLY simplify it.. think 3m-12m... but it must be applied uniformly to all employees of the same type.

OK. I was being dense. This makes more sense now. College students who are under their parent's insurance would be covered.
 

alphac2005

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Including summer interns? It's going to be a rough time being a college kid these days. A lot of companies were already cutting back on internship programs. This will cripple the amount of summer jobs available. I'm not that into politics. Maybe I should pay more attention.

If you have parents, you are able to remain on their health plan until age 26 negating the need for your own policy.
 

WDW1974

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@WDW1974 Question for you. I read on disneyandmore that DLP's Indy Jones and the temple of peril is being rebuilt. Do you know if this is true?

Any other news you can share with the class regarding DLP and it's sad step sister Studios? Is there going to be a cash-dump to fix up the park and/or add new rides/eating establishments/anything but hotels?

Yes, it is true.

No news to share about DLP right now. They have a massive infrastructure repair and replace plan to cover the next five years. How much gets funded and done is another matter.
 

WDW1974

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So by comparison what would be the percentage of 'all over the planet' vs. local zone when talking about WDW? 55% local zone seem like it would be totally impossible at WDW based one your own argument. So how does that not make DL, by comparison, a local park?

No, it means there are more locals at DLR than WDW. Nothing more. By that measure, all of the international resorts are actually 'locals' parks too.

The local comparison simply doesn't work as an argument for much of anything except fanboard fodder.
 

WDW1974

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For those that stay at the Disney Deluxes, but are itching to try off property accomadations, I highly recommend The Grande Lakes Resort. They have 2 fantastic hotels (JW Marriott and Ritz Carlton) for a fraction of the price of The Deluxes. And they blow away the Deluxes. Simply an amazing place to stay.

The typical WDW deluxe guest of 2013 would be VERY uncomfortable in places like that. They have no idea how to act or what a true 4-5 star caliber experience actually is largely.
 

stevehousse

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All this healthcare talk... I still don't even understand what exactly it is that this healthcare program all is or entails? and how it will impact big corporations like Disney?
 
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