The Empress Lilly
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Dammit I just kant keep up with l33t speech!
But I'm sure I regain kewl points with the kids with my Vanilla Ice shirt. That's right, I'm still on top on what's hip and funky!
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But I'm sure I regain kewl points with the kids with my Vanilla Ice shirt. That's right, I'm still on top on what's hip and funky!
nor'easter
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There is big difference between the privacy protections for consumers required by the EU and the US. Much of what Disney plans to do would not be permitted by EU directives.
awoogala
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oh my. I just got shivers. Haven't had those looking at Disney for a long while.. but Harry Potter will do it. Give me Dementors!!!!
jensenrick
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If magicbands were as simple and effective as ID&C's- people might not have such a problem with them. I bet ID&C's wristband system didn't cost them $2+ billion either. I'm not afraid of Magicbands, just annoyed.
HMF
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As I have said numerous times If this was just bands that acted as your Park Ticket and purchase things. I would not have a problem with it, In fact I would say it was a great sign of progress for the human race. The Problem I have with it is There are more pressing issues at the parks that need attention and more importantly it should not be used as a tool to track people especially when you don't know who might be reading the information. In the wrong hands information can be very dangerous and considering the attitudes of the people in the upper reaches of the Walt Disney Company I don't think they are worthy of trust. This isn't Walt's Company anymore. I don't believe that the people currently in charge have their Guests interests at heart.
SirLink
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Can't really call it's true name and take a week's worth of coverage from Disney Parks Blog PR, when they announce the name can they...
PeterAlt
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There must be something in the air over there on the west coast. Whatever it is, I want what they're breathing!
Read:
http://micechat.com/42628-miceage-disneyland-update/
The mood there is real uppity and the mood here is a real downer lately...
Doors Coaster @DCA? Monstropolis @DCA? New Star Wars attractions at Tomorrowland? How do they know this? What do we know for what's being worked on for us? NOTHING. Not even a leak. Tons of worthless rumors. Avatar or is that A-vapor-tar? Come on!
They can at least bring back Pleasure Island so that we can soak our sorrows out at the Blues bar!
Read:
http://micechat.com/42628-miceage-disneyland-update/
The mood there is real uppity and the mood here is a real downer lately...
Doors Coaster @DCA? Monstropolis @DCA? New Star Wars attractions at Tomorrowland? How do they know this? What do we know for what's being worked on for us? NOTHING. Not even a leak. Tons of worthless rumors. Avatar or is that A-vapor-tar? Come on!
They can at least bring back Pleasure Island so that we can soak our sorrows out at the Blues bar!
SirLink
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Hardly worthless rumours.
Disney is in a rock and a hard place with Avatar - they know it was a stupid reactionary measure by Bob Iger but if they do cancel it they then have to pay Fox/Lightstorm Entertainment for cancelling the project.
flynnibus
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shutdown costs have to be cheaper than development+buildout+ongoing costs for the next 15 years...
CDavid
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Given some of Disney's other idiotic moves over the years, I'd have to question if they really know Avatar is a mistake; Specifically, I question whether Bob Igor knows that.
But I have to agree with flynnibus, although it would essentially be throwing money away, it has to be cheaper than completing a badly mistaken project. Much as I hate to say it, in this one case we would all be better off if Disney just did the least with Avatar they can get away with (one ride and a shop & dining) and call it done.
crispy
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All right stop! Collaborate and listen, Disney's back with a brand new invention...
(Oh, wait, no they aren't. Never miiiind!)
not to be rude nor do i want an avatar debate, but why is it a mistake? how do you know it wont be massively successful? even if the second movie doesnt do well (im betting it will) it can still be successful kinda like Cars land was
instead of claiming it will be a mistake before you see anything how about give it a chance...how about we see it through before calling it a failure/mistake
bhg469
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I work in the ticketing industry and there is very little difference between mag strips, bar codes or RFID when it comes to entry. There is a device on one end that authenticates the ticket and then it reports back to the server... Disneys solution regarding entry would be the cheapest part of their system.
menamechris
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instead of claiming it will be a mistake before you see anything how about give it a chance...how about we see it through before calling it a failure/mistake
Because at this rate, we will probably all be in wheelchairs before it's completed? That alone is a failure in my book. Disney's projections for this project over 2 years ago will certainly not be relevant now or whenever they actually decide to break ground. And that will be another convenient excuse for Disney to cancel another project and allow Orlando to continue to be stagnant.
LOL i agree with you on how long this will/is taking...its ridiculous that its taking so long on getting any info
menamechris
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I agree. And given that it takes forever to move or greenlight any decisions even within Disney internally - when you add a third party like James Cameron - good luck getting anything approved.
I have been absent from the discussion boards here for awhile, to take a break in the hopes that when I came back we would have some real news or announcements to discuss - but in reality, we have only seen rumor shifts from Carsland to Star Wars, and one or two more "shout outs" about Avatar from Iger. Once the Mine Train mountain completes New Fantasyland in the spring, there is no question that Orlando is in for a long stretch of nothing.
alphac2005
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Thank you, thank you. I had read several studies before the article in Rolling Stone and it really encapsulated the problems quite well. When you live in a culture of denial about reality, stupidity rules out and the development of South Florida is a prime example. It is not an issue of if it's going bad, rather when and how soon, as it's already under way.
alphac2005
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Well the strollers do bother me. Those doombuggies have taken over public space. They are like cars in a once pedestrian area.
Toddlerland, formerly Fantasyland:
Adventureland. Once a calm tropical oasis in the MK, now you move like ants between the plastic toons, spinner and strollers packed with enough food and gear for a six week jungle expedition:
EPCOT's Clone Army, ready to overthrow the Republic:
Classic MK! No strollers! No clogged Fantasyland! Before the Fantasyland Diminishing Project of recent years, FL already featured fountains, waterstreams, shade, resting places, rides, manouverable pathways. To boot, also a Bavarian hillside to go with the Bavarian hillside town architecture.
It's all gone. Turned into a Toon Toilet. [insert some wordplay with 'down the toilet'] Because people drink out of horse buckets nowadays they had to build extra toilets, the skyway had to go for want of disciplined guests, and the area needed to be widened to accomodate those forty million SUV strollers.
Why have your kids walk while having to hold their hands and actually parent when you can push them around?
Especially when they are so big that their legs actually hang out and their feet drag on the ground. Thanks for posting what I, too, have found to be the biggest pet peeve about the guests at WDW.
SirLink
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Unless the shutdown costs are percentage of what would have been on Avatar which could mean it is the same. If they are basing on film success I could see it being 10% of what would of been per year so if say they have a 10 year contract with 2 renewal periods Cameron may be entitled to more than the costs to build it.
71jason
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How would he? How many hours has he spent in a theme park not as part of a PR campaign? How often do you imagine he sneaks into a movie with the general public? Hell, how often do you think he even talks to people who plunk down $10 to see a movie or $95 to visit a theme park?
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