Spirited News & Observations II -- NGE/Baxter

SirLink

Well-Known Member
Standards of Business Conduct (TWDC, all employees):

This is the intro to the handbook, written by Bob Iger himself (or one of his PR folks with his signature!):

"Integrity, honesty, trust, respect, playing by the rules, and teamwork – these define not only the operating principles of our Company, but also the spirit of our diverse global workforce and how we function."

That should deadend any questions on the behavior of JFB. Oh, and there are rules for PR and Social Media that go further ... but none of that is needed.

Funny how all those principles went out the door when they were marketing John Carter, when divisions were just not working together - where people in power had disrespect for Andrew Stanton.
 

jt04

Well-Known Member
I wanna know what happened to Iron Man. Is TDA forgetting who's moving in to USH in 2016?

I think the mouse may be more concerned with keeping up with US in Florida and SW at this point. They should be concerned because the Potter adds are going to prove to be overwhelmingly successful. Far beyond the first phase.

For the first time visitors will be able to have a full week of amazing experiences in Orlando without setting foot on Disney property.
 

George

Liker of Things
Premium Member
Meanwhile on the West Coast...

http://micechat.com/26081-disneyland-tron-monsters/

looks like that rumored DHS door coaster is finally arriving, but in DCA.

From a WDW perspective that really, really sucks. TDO really, really sucks.

DHS will still get the coaster... After TDO decides if its successful at DCA

Here's a prediction - It's a coaster in a Disney park. It will be successful. TDO sucks.

PS- it is clear the only reason you would buy a majority interest in WDWMagic is to ban me and Lee and bring back EE and Merf.

Even for you, this is kinda weird.
 

ThemeParks4Life

Well-Known Member
So overnight 5 pages of Blondie arguing happened? XD I'm gonna take a look at that Miceage article now. Yeah, seeing how it's from Miceage I'll take this with a grain of salt.
 

lazyboy97o

Well-Known Member
Bull----. You have an agenda here. It likely is simply to disrupt my comments because you don't like my opinions/conclusions and even, maybe, the eyeballs I bring here.

To you, the only thing that matters in this whole freaking subject is that you focus on some tiny point that may have some validity but only serves to distract and change the discussion. You are not stupid. You are just playing.

Even your BS line about me thinking for others. I don't want that. I want people to use their brains. But I am a media pro as is Dave and when we try and explain why this is so off, you just insist on acting like you know better, you're smarter and let's play semantics ... it is tiresome.

And frankly repeating the same BS ad nauseum doesn't change a thing. It just makes you seem trollish.
I told you exactly what my agenda is in this. I do not believe your end justifies your means. I was repetitious because nobody would answer my inquiries in a straight manner, instead The New York Times Company and The New York Times were repeatedly used interchangeably because that is what created the most effect. That is where the thinking was done for others. It was not enough to point out that the accepted practice in journalism is to reference your specific paper instead of the parent company, it had to be framed as a specific claim to be writing for another paper.

That is exactly what she did. If this is a discussion of ethics and honesty, then those claiming to stand for that should engage in such a manner. No stretch of information, even if it is what the original mischaracterization hopes people assume. Because doing that is the same. It's a slight stretch that should be ignored because it is "small" and still technically true. Your the one who started playing the semantics game and getting y at those who recognize it as such.

Incidentally, you are doing a great PR campaign for her. Congrats. So what if she lies? So what if she broke a CARDINAL rule of journalism and PR by mixing the two? So what about ethics, right?

What matters is how she worded her lies? Right? That is the bull$H&T you and lazyboy are pushing.
I would just ask why? Or do you not think ethics are important for people in general, and folks who work for TWDC in particular.

You are soooo over the top here. I just wonder what your pony is here.
Is your reading comprehension really that bad? I already said I think she lied. My issue is YOU lying about her lie and then justifying it with what would likely be a similar reason, that your statements are technically true and make a bigger impact.

It won't end because a few people here have agendas of their own and will keep going and going ...
Then why doesn't Mr. Straight and Honest say exactly what these agendas are, who has them and why? This is your MO. You make these suggestions so you can't get called out for being wrong since you're "only asking questions." It is exactly the sort of sleazy reporting you claim to dislike.

Does my misrepresentation to you mean that you will fire me? Because I lied? Or do you overlook it because you are pleased with the results you are paying for?
I think this is what I've been getting at, the end (a good lawn) has justified the means (the embellishment). To me, that is important.

It seems to me, that his opinion should carry a great deal of weight in a discussion about ethics in the newspaper industry. But maybe, that's just me.
It does carry weight, but instead of clearly explaining industry practice he too jumped onto those who asked and would not be straightforward without using names interchangeably.

As for Spirit, his track record speaks for itself. I don't understand why folks feel the need to fight him. Embrace Spirited Change, it is good for the soul.
That is exactly what would be said in defense of the embellished résumé. In this discussion there should be no place for playing the very sort of games one is attacking.

Do you realize how often you accuse those who disagree with you of having an agenda? Kinda makes it seem like YOU may have....an agenda.

The fact that you get so angry when people disagree with you on your beloved thread makes me ask just one simple question...

You mad, bro?
Exactly, and what is stranger is the most vitriol is saved not for those who completely disagree, but those with only slight disagreement.
 

wannab@dis

Well-Known Member
Agreed, anyone who doesn't... Look at views on a 74 thread and compare them to the rest. This isn't opinion, it's fact. For better or for worse, when running a forum you pray to get someone who draws numbers.
I'd say for worse, much worse. I see mods are "liking" posts over the past couple of pages so they are aware of the continual personal attacks taking place here and letting them stand. So, we know where they stand... but as long as they get clicks, ethics don't matter? Hah

The irony of someone screaming about ethics while at the same time using ad homs, belittlement, accusations, and trashing others is priceless. No, there's no agenda here, no money on the line somewhere. If you believe that, then enjoy being played.
 

djlaosc

Well-Known Member
Meanwhile on the West Coast...

http://micechat.com/26081-disneyland-tron-monsters/

looks like that rumored DHS door coaster is finally arriving, but in DCA.

My only issue with that (apart from that it isn't coming to WDW) is the same that people have with the placement of the Monsters Inc. Ride currently there - what does Monsters. Inc (or in this case, Monstropolis) have to do with California? It would probably be better as a sub-land of Fantasyland, unless it's just going to be a sub-land of Hollywoodland?
 

wm49rs

A naughty bit o' crumpet
Premium Member
I'd say for worse, much worse. I see mods are "liking" posts over the past couple of pages so they are aware of the continual personal attacks taking place here and letting them stand. So, we know where they stand... but as long as they get clicks, ethics don't matter? Hah

The irony of someone screaming about ethics while at the same time using ad homs, belittlement, accusations, and trashing others is priceless. No, there's no agenda here, no money on the line somewhere. If you believe that, then enjoy being played.

If you don't like the way Steve and the other mods run this site, you have other options.....
 

|Q|

Active Member
My only issue with that (apart from that it isn't coming to WDW) is the same that people have with the placement of the Monsters Inc. Ride currently there - what does Monsters. Inc (or in this case, Monstropolis) have to do with California? It would probably be better as a sub-land of Fantasyland, unless it's just going to be a sub-land of Hollywoodland?

I agree that it doesn't fit in Hollywoodland (a Muppet's Studios miniland would be better), but i can't see how would fit better in Fantasyland, lol
 

GiveMeTheMusic

Well-Known Member
My only issue with that (apart from that it isn't coming to WDW) is the same that people have with the placement of the Monsters Inc. Ride currently there - what does Monsters. Inc (or in this case, Monstropolis) have to do with California? It would probably be better as a sub-land of Fantasyland, unless it's just going to be a sub-land of Hollywoodland?

Monsters has absolutely nothing to do with CA or Hollywood (other than it being a movie), but that hasn't stopped additions to DCA since it opened in 2001. What does Mermaid have to do with CA? Honey badger Disney don't care
 

Eeyore

Mrs. WDWMAGIC [Assistant Administrator]
Premium Member
I'd say for worse, much worse. I see mods are "liking" posts over the past couple of pages so they are aware of the continual personal attacks taking place here and letting them stand. So, we know where they stand... but as long as they get clicks, ethics don't matter? Hah

The irony of someone screaming about ethics while at the same time using ad homs, belittlement, accusations, and trashing others is priceless. No, there's no agenda here, no money on the line somewhere. If you believe that, then enjoy being played.

This has always been very much a self moderated forum. Most posters here are adults and therefore we let the users dictate the discussion unless posts are reported. Just because one or more of us may agree with a particular point doesn't mean that a. We've had time to read the entire thread or b. agree with all the points made within said thread or even with all viewpoints made by the same poster.
 

fosse76

Well-Known Member
Are you reading the same memo?

The one that says
- please don't work overtime hours... cutout before working beyond the time that would push you to OT
Actually, the part of the memo that addressed OT explicitly stated that if only a small amount of OT was worked, not to claim it (by example):

"Hourly folks - don’t push the OT. If it’s 9:10, take the 9:00 out – don’t push for9:30."

In other words, it says even if you work until 9:10, sign out at 9:00. Hourly workers are non-exempt, which makes even the suggestion of this practice illegal. Since I don't work there, I have no idea how the OT is paid incrementally (i.e., 15 minute- blocks, 30-minute blocks?). If I work 40 hours and 10 minutes, I expect to be paid for 40 hours and 10 minutes. If company policy requires that I be paid in 30 minute increments for OT, then they have to pay me for 40 hours and 30 minutes.
 

wannab@dis

Well-Known Member
This has always been very much a self moderated forum. Most posters here are adults and therefore we let the users dictate the discussion unless posts are reported. Just because one or more of us may agree with a particular point doesn't mean that a. We've had time to read the entire thread or b. agree with all the points made within said thread or even with all viewpoints made by the same poster.
If you notice, I didn't say you agreed with any viewpoint, just that you were aware of the posts. I just thought the whole ethical irony was a hoot.

On one hand, we have someone that stretches the truth on a resume (by saying she worked for a parent company) being attacked by a pitchfork carrying mob trying to trash her and get her fired. But on the other, we have the leader of the mob that stretches the truth all the time, makes veiled accusations but cloaks them in self-righteous questions, and vilifies anyone that doesn't partake in his echo chamber.

She gets clicks on the Disney Parks blog and he gets clicks on this forum. Hilarious!
 

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