Spirited News & Observations II -- NGE/Baxter

[TP2000]

Ah, but the objective of miss Fickley-Baker's job is not to uphold the truth, but to fluff the truth.

Blondie is not relevant to us here, or to her current employer, as a correspondent. No, she is a pr spindoctor. And in this profession, the ability to fluff the truth is not a capital sin. Not at all.

In fact, it comes highly recommended and those incapable or unwilling to do so had better seek employment elsewhere.

Quite true.

The only thing I have to add is... I'm pretty sure she doesn't like to be called "Miss Fickley-Baker". If a woman chooses the hyphen thing, it's then all about her as her husband can't take a hyphen, and her children can't take a hyphen, at least not for more than one generation or you get names like Jane Fickley-Baker-Johnson, and then her daughter becomes Allison Fickley-Baker-Johnson-Buchanan, etc., etc. into the 22nd century. At some point the hyphen name game just has to stop.

For those types of women it's purely Ms. Fickley-Baker, even though there's a Mr. Baker waiting for her somewhere in a Three Bedroom + Den With Tuscan-Inspired Granite Kitchen Upgrade tract home in greater Orlando. But God forbid she be known as Mrs. Baker, lest someone not take her seriously at work.

I imagine she's a perfectly nice person at cocktail parties though. Or can at least fake it, like any good PR person can.

 

[WDW1974]

I've been a premium for years.
Other posters, who draw more hits to the site than I do, probably more than earn their keep in ad sales.
(That's purely speculation, of course.)

Folks come here to read you, Lee. ... Just like they come to read me, just like they come to read a handful of others.

That's not bravado, that's fact.

 

[WDW1974]

I just came across this article, and while not about the Parks & Resorts division of Disney, it does involve legally/ethically questionable behavior. It also shows that poor treatment of front-line workers may not be limited to just the parks.

http://deadspin.com/espn-x-games-memo-asks-staffers-to-work-for-free-and-no-471205365

It seems pretty foolish to me for someone to ask hourly employees to under-report their hours to avoid overtime. It's especially foolish to put such requests in writing. But hey, they'll get recognition on a wall in the office!

While I agree with a lot of what is in there, that is a godawful memo that should never have gone out.

 

[englanddg]

Meh, this all sounds like jealousy over a lost contract to me.

So the blonde lady blogs about useless crap and fluffed her Linkedin? Who cares? People do this sort of thing all the time.

The reality is, her content and her professionalism is a matter between her and her employer, no one else. If you think she obtained the position due to dubious means, well, you can gripe all you like. But, if she's developing and presenting products that meet the expectations of her employer, it's none of your damned business.

This whole rant is getting rather annoying. Mostly because I fail to see what impact it will have.

Will Disney read this thread and think...Wow, we should fire this "blondey", or will they disregard it as a pointless rant? Will it cause or impact anything? Or is it just a rant?

Rants, I'm fine with, but at least identify them as such. This has been going on for a while now, and unless there is a proposed solution, I care to not follow it.

<ducks>

 

[WDW1974]

I think I just saw @WDW1974 try and catch Upton's HR out there in the left field cheap seats

I NEVER sit in the 'cheap seats' anywhere ... ever. But that game was boring as hell ... gonna be a long season for the Marlins, although it's great to see Juan Pierre back home.

 

[WDW1974]

Yea I'm union....one of the very few things a union is good for.

When you don't have (or aren't allowed to have) a union, you tend to realize just what they are good for.

 

[englanddg]

When you don't have (or aren't allowed to have) a union, you tend to realize just what they are good for.

When you have to negotiate with, and manage union employees, you realize what they are not good for.

 

[the.dreamfinder]

I NEVER sit in the 'cheap seats' anywhere ... ever. But that game was boring as hell ... gonna be a long season for the Marlins, although it's great to see Juan Pierre back home.

My Phillies aren't so hot either...

 

[WDW1974]

Incidentally, here you are doing a major Blondie yourself.

Incidentally, you are doing a great PR campaign for her. Congrats. So what if she lies? So what if she broke a CARDINAL rule of journalism and PR by mixing the two? So what about ethics, right?

What matters is how she worded her lies? Right? That is the bull$H&T you and lazyboy are pushing.
I would just ask why? Or do you not think ethics are important for people in general, and folks who work for TWDC in particular.

You are soooo over the top here. I just wonder what your pony is here.

 

[WDW1974]

Ah, but the objective of miss Fickley-Baker's job is not to uphold the truth, but to fluff the truth.

Blondie is not relevant to us here, or to her current employer, as a correspondent. No, she is a pr spindoctor. And in this profession, the ability to fluff the truth is not a capital sin. Not at all.

In fact, it comes highly recommended and those incapable or unwilling to do so had better seek employment elsewhere.

Are you dense? That's all I can ask when I read something like this? Or do you just get a bulge when you get a rise from someone online?

Do ethics and honesty matter to you? Because if they do, there is NO way to defend what Blondie has been up to. None.

 

[Lee]

Will Disney read this thread and think...Wow, we should fire this "blondey", or will they disregard it as a pointless rant? Will it cause or impact anything? Or is it just a rant?

This is a message board. 80% of everything on here can be construed as a rant.
And no, this situation hasn't been disregarded as pointless.

This has been going on for a while now, and unless there is a proposed solution, I care to not follow it.

And yet...here you are.

 

[WDW1974]

I can't speak for anyone else, but If I came across as defending her it wasn't for either of these reasons. I don't see this as a big lie or a big deal. I don't work in her industry, but I have to believe that anyone who does and would be hiring her would figure out the situation pretty fast. I don't see a technicality on a linkedin page as being grounds to fire someone. Maybe if she was a serious reporter for the actual NY Times it would be a bigger deal since it could call into question her journalistic integrity, but I don't think it takes away from her ability to write for the parks blog.

You are wrong.

It is a BIG deal.

And you're missing the point. It's the others here who keep defending her who focus on a technicality.
And it doesn't matter much. It's the big picture stuff that does. Oh, they know it as well. But they're playing games.

 

[WDW1974]

Normally I would say, we agree to disagree......

But I just can't tolerate people that will defend people who misrepresent themselves. If you enjoy liars and cheats, go right ahead. Enjoy your time on Orange Blossom trail. Me? I'm pretty good with my ethical standing. I know the difference between right and wrong. And when she's done is wrong. End of discussion.

No. Trust me, Dave.

It won't end because a few people here have agendas of their own and will keep going and going ...

 

[PhotoDave219]

My Phillies aren't so hot either...

/Durbin'd

 

[WDW1974]

I've only been loosly following @WDW1974 and @PhotoDave219 's frustration with this woman...

I am glad @WDW1974 dropped her name so I could check out her completely worthless blog.

It holds even less content and actual value than the Disney Parks channel and the annoying lady who keeps telling me that Animal Kingdom is amazing (and has for the last couple years, I forget her name, but she came up in another thread recently)...

Nothing she's written (at least from what a google search shows) is anything close to real journalism, and is nothing more than propaganda and marketing / shilling for the parks. Which I'm fine with. Most Mommy bloggers are like that.

What I don't get is the sheer ire. People lie or "embellish" their CV all the time. Who cares, unless you are reporting something of import as an authority? Her posts are silly and stupid.

I don't care that she upsets them so much...I just don't get why it's such a big deal.

Then why are you even posting here? I don't post on threads that don't interest me. I don't join in conversations just to say 'I don't see why you folks are wasting time talking about this' ... It's very clear why this bothers Dave, myself and many, many others. Folks who actually work in media.

 

[PhotoDave219]

Meh, this all sounds like jealousy over a lost contract to me.

So the blonde lady blogs about useless crap and fluffed her Linkedin? Who cares? People do this sort of thing all the time.

The reality is, her content and her professionalism is a matter between her and her employer, no one else. If you think she obtained the position due to dubious means, well, you can gripe all you like. But, if she's developing and presenting products that meet the expectations of her employer, it's none of your damned business.

This whole rant is getting rather annoying. Mostly because I fail to see what impact it will have.

Will Disney read this thread and think...Wow, we should fire this "blondey", or will they disregard it as a pointless rant? Will it cause or impact anything? Or is it just a rant?

Rants, I'm fine with, but at least identify them as such. This has been going on for a while now, and unless there is a proposed solution, I care to not follow it.

<ducks>

First if you dont like it, no one is forcing you to read it, let alone reply.

Second if you have such a lax attitude towards right and wrong, I dont want to be associated with you, let alone interact with you.

What has this thread accomplished? Well, we know who is comfortable with cheats and liars now.

 

[WDW1974]

Meh, this all sounds like jealousy over a lost contract to me.

Oh, so you're still here. You posted a bit ago about having no idea why this bothers myself, Dave and others ... but now you feel like it's time to suggest an agenda.

We are upset because we lost a contract to Blondie. That's really the best you've got? My place in media is in a different UNIverse than JFB's ... and I very much doubt she knows one end of the camera from another unlike a pro like Dave.

So the blonde lady blogs about useless crap and fluffed her Linkedin? Who cares? People do this sort of thing all the time.

People lie, cheat, steal ... oh, and rape, murder and plunder all the time. Who cares, right? God (for those who believe) will make it all equal the next go around, right? Let people do whatever they want now (except for that damn scary Prez!)

The reality is, her content and her professionalism is a matter between her and her employer, no one else. If you think she obtained the position due to dubious means, well, you can gripe all you like. But, if she's developing and presenting products that meet the expectations of her employer, it's none of your damned business.

Sorry, but there's only one word for that: bull$hit!

This whole rant is getting rather annoying. Mostly because I fail to see what impact it will have.

Will Disney read this thread and think...Wow, we should fire this "blondey", or will they disregard it as a pointless rant? Will it cause or impact anything? Or is it just a rant?

Rants, I'm fine with, but at least identify them as such. This has been going on for a while now, and unless there is a proposed solution, I care to not follow it.

<ducks>

Instead of ducking, why not duck out to one of hundreds of other threads here or start one of your own and talk about what interests you. If people are interested ... if they care, I'm sure it will go on 185 pages and counting ...

 

[englanddg]

First if you dont like it, no one is forcing you to read it, let alone reply.

Second if you have such a lax attitude towards right and wrong, I dont want to be associated with you, let alone interact with you.

What has this thread accomplished? Well, we know who is comfortable with cheats and liars now.

Dave, I totally got and followed your points about her mis-representing herself on her Linked-In (and most likely professionally, though I've seen no proof of that outside of her Linked-In). She is in the wrong, she is mis-representing herself, and it is horrid.

However, I've watched two people who I enjoy on the forum sit here and bash on this worthless blogger over and over again, and I'm not sure I see the point.

Lets say you go to hire me to mow your lawn, and I say I have extensive experience with landscaping and have even worked for Disney (even though I was just a subcontractor).

After a few months, your lawn is green and well kept, and you are happy with my results. Then you find out that I was merely a subcontractor who did nothing in the actual Parks, but rather mowed the lawn near the BP. However, your lawn is green and well kept, and you are happy with my results.

Does my misrepresentation to you mean that you will fire me? Because I lied? Or do you overlook it because you are pleased with the results you are paying for?

 

[PhotoDave219]

Liars and cheats? For what is the perfectly common practise* of trying to present yourself in the best possible light, like everybody else applying for your job?

Do you think employers too don't present their companies in the best possible light? When's the last time a job ad read 'company currently getting hammered by the competition seeks talented people for ty work environment'? Let's not confuse standard practise with an impossibly idealised perfect world here.

Every applicant, everybody on LinkedIn with asperations of managerial positions has a fluffed up profile. Kinda like how on Facebook people show pictures of themselves in scuba gear in exotic places, when in reality their lives are better described as 'cubicle monkeys'. It's not cheating, no, it's something everybody simply understands and expects.

I don't think there is anybody in HR who does not understand how ms. Fickley-Baker's profile works. I don't think there is any job interview with a serious company that wouldn't ask her 'what, and where, exactly, is the job you did as a local correspondent?'




* “Hire Right” recently released some interesting statistics that show how rampant resume fraud is in the United States. The company’s numbers show that 80 percent of all resumes are misleading, 20 percent state fraudulent degrees, 30 percent show altered employment dates, 40 percent have inflated salary claims, 30 percent have inaccurate job descriptions, 25 percent list companies that no longer exist, and 27 percent give falsified references.
http://www.1888articles.com/lying-o...ng-you-could-do-for-your-career-085tf94p.html
To which I would add: the first thing that strikes me about ms. Fickley-Baker's profile is how down to earth it is compared to the usual sheer fiction that seems the standard on LinkedIn.

Quote whatever you want, you've clearly shown your moral character and your tolerance for unethical behavior. I have no desire to interact or engage with such people.

If you want to defend lying and misrepresentation, have fun with it. I'm not going to read it and judge you accordingly. Its a black and white issue and you've made it clear that you're no one I would ever want to associate with.

 

[englanddg]

Oh, so you're still here. You posted a bit ago about having no idea why this bothers myself, Dave and others ... but now you feel like it's time to suggest an agenda.

I suggested no agenda for you to proceed, I have however questioned your motives. I just don't see the reason for your vitriol. You've both been very vague about it, and very hostile to anyone who questions why. But since this thread is so popular, it comes up a lot in the stream. So...lets move on...

We are upset because we lost a contract to Blondie. That's really the best you've got? My place in media is in a different UNIverse than JFB's ... and I very much doubt she knows one end of the camera from another unlike a pro like Dave.

As I said, this is a suspicion. I have no idea who you are, or who he is. I just know you keep ranting night after night about this blonde blogger who mis-represented herself. I am merely trying to grasp what the distaste over her (versus plenty of other "Disney Bloggers") is. My best guess is fiscal loss, hence my use of the words "Meh, this sounds" vs "Meh, this IS". I don't know, and I increasingly don't care.

People lie, cheat, steal ... oh, and rape, murder and plunder all the time. Who cares, right? God (for those who believe) will make it all equal the next go around, right? Let people do whatever they want now (except for that damn scary Prez!)

Yes, people do lie, cheat and steal. Don't tell me you've never in your career said you didn't with all confidence imply you can 100% do something you were not able to do at the time and then learned on the job and done it. If everything requires experience, no one would ever get jobs or opportunities. That is part of success.

With respect to her lying on her Linked-In, I am not going to defend that, because I think you and Dave have that covered. She flat out lied. But, what difference does it make considering her position?

Instead of ducking, why not duck out to one of hundreds of other threads here or start one of your own and talk about what interests you. If people are interested ... if they care, I'm sure it will go on 185 pages and counting ...

That is just sheer arrogance. And, I know I'm addressing two people who have been here a long time when I'm new, but it really seems like it's worthless to the forum. I don't care what you "bring" to the forum, I didn't come here because of you, and I could just as easily go to other forums and get interactions that are not as petty.

Now, you will invite me to leave, I suspect.

And with respect to the thread, since it's long since been a popular one, you didn't start the thread with "This blondie lady is horrid"...

All the bitterness...that's what I don't get.