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the.dreamfinder

Well-Known Member
Anyway...
Read this article today. While it's not about WDW or NextGen, it brings up a lot of good points.

http://matadornetwork.com/trips/the-folly-of-an-itinerary/

The folly of an itinerary

by BART SCHANEMAN on January 18, 2013

PEOPLE WANT A PLAN.

They’ve decided they’re going to an unknown foreign country and they want to maximize their time. They want to see all of the sights — go to all the museums, monuments, and any other historically significant spots. They wake up early at a planned time and each subsequent hour until they go back to the hotel and pass out from exhaustion. So they can remember what they were too tired to appreciate at the time they took a lot of pictures. They wake up the next day and do it all over again, doing what every tourist has done for decades.

People like having a plan.

This is no way to experience a country. Guidebooks and travel magazines offer suggestions, loose outlines of what you should do. They’re not supposed to provide you with a regimen of how to spend your time. Even Lonely Planet says their book is not meant as a be-all end-all authority on a place. A travel agent may not have even been to the place they’re planning for you. There’s a very real possibility they receive kickbacks from tourist traps for sending their clients to certain destinations.

For example, many of the guided tours here in Seoul to the Demilitarized Zone are inexplicably partnered with an amethyst mining operation and force tourists to stop at their purple stone jewelry shop before they bring you back. I only know this because the main way to see the DMZ as a plebian is to take a guided tour. We had to talk my mom out of buying a ring when my parents came to visit.

The best plan is no plan.
The hostel in Beijing that arranged our trip to the Great Wall forgot to tell us that they would drive us out into the Chinese countryside and make us eat at an overpriced village restaurant. This is the kind of thing that happens when you have guides and go on arranged tours, often as part of an itinerary.

The best plan is no plan. Do a lot of research before you leave. Learn the cultural customs. Learn as much of the basic language as you can. Get a sense of how the transportation works. Select a few key places you want to see, eat at, and get drunk in. Then just go.

Wing the rest of it. Talk to other travelers. Talk to locals. Rent bikes or motorbikes and allow yourself enough time to get lost. Go walking through common neighborhoods with a camera or a pen and a notebook. Sit down in the park. Lie in the grass. Let the monks in their bright orange robes come up to you at sunset in Laos and practice their English on you. Take it slow. Keep yourself open.

Only by allowing yourself to be open to the suggestions of others and to the environment will you have unexpected moments. This is how you end up in a midnight, Fast-and-the-Furious-style car race in a small city in Russia, or at a movie theater café with Jackie Chan in China. And you don’t have to do it alone. Travel with someone as open-minded as you and you’ll have experiences you could never predict or schedule.

In the film version of “The Sheltering Sky,” when they’re on the bus through the African desert and the flies are covering their faces, Port (John Malkovich) wakes up with his face almost black from the filthy insects. He starts laughing. “What are these flies!” That’s the attitude that carries a traveler to surprising, unforgettable moments.

Don’t be afraid to simply show up in a place and let the trip carry you away. No plan is the only plan.
 

kittybubbles

Active Member
Here's what I don't really get. If this is a tiered program intended to reward the "whales" of WDW can't they come up with better rewards than extra fast passes. To go back to Flynnibus's casino card example, if I play enough slot machines I get a free buffet, if I step up to $15 blackjack for a night I get a free room, if I play $100 craps for a weekend I get a suite with my own butler and if I'm a true whale they pick me up in a private jet and fly me there and lavish me with pretty much anything I want. Flash over to the WDW system. If I spend top dollar at the Grand Floridian for 2 weeks and book all signature dinners I get...an extra fast pass or 2. If they want to do this right they should use the info to offer room discounts, merchandise discounts, free character meals, unique merchandise (imagine something truly unique that you can't buy in any store, only earn by being a big spender), free or discounted unique experiences like the AK trek thing or backstage tours, special meet and greet opportunities for smaller groups with more direct interaction. I could go on for a while. My point is that extra fast pass reservations are not going to be enough to get me to shell out a serious upgrade of cash. It is like offering the casino whale a free buffet instead of the private jet. I agree with the idea that all park guests should get the same basic park experience (including use of fastpass+) but, I don't have a problem with offering higher spending guests some perks, it happens already with transportation to and from the parks. I'm just not sure that FP+ is the ideal carrot to hang in front of them.


I do not think that any of us will really know what Disney will do as they gain knowledge about their guest. With everything tied together, it should make it easier for WDW to grade each of the guest using MagicMyWay....they will be able to tweak and adjust analogical software that could start with something like...only open half the tables in California Grill to folks on the dining plan and leaving the rest for folks not on a plan...how would any of us know that the resturant was not truly booked, just booked for guest w/ profile 'C'.

They could then start adjusting stuff, the 'whale' would find it easier to get into any SIG TS while the folks who just ordered cheese soup the last time they were at Le Celliar MIT find they can't seem to reserve a table anymore.

Anyway, I have no idea what WDW has planned for any of this, but it is very possible that they will do more to make the big spenders have a much more magical experience than the person their software tells them does not add enough to the bottom line.
 

PhotoDave219

Well-Known Member
I would think that making Disney characters part of the families of Marvel characters would give Universal the East Coast rights to those Disney characters. But this theory also falls into the fallacy that The Walt Disney Company as a whole is all that concerned about Marvel Super Hero Island. It's bringing in money without cost. Your idea also risks doing serious damage to the Marvel brand, making the acquisition a $4 billion waste.

I see the Marvel licensing with Universal continuing. We make money off it without having spent a dime. Make the terms at tad more favorable and it should continue.
 

Sneezy62

Well-Known Member
I'm not understanding how Disney gets me to spend a large fraction more than what I planned on spending to start with. Yes most vacations cost a little more than what one budgets to start with. It's the nature of being on vacation. This sounds though like Disney is deliberately targeting shopaholics. What am I missing?
 

M.rudolf

Well-Known Member
I'm not understanding how Disney gets me to spend a large fraction more than what I planned on spending to start with. Yes most vacations cost a little more than what one budgets to start with. It's the nature of being on vacation. This sounds though like Disney is deliberately targeting shopaholics. What am I missing?
They are. They are basically making it easier for you to justify spending more. It's like going into a electronics store to buy a tv and walking out with a 1000 dollar tv and 500 dollars worth of accessories you don't really need but the salesman swears you have to have them so you get a better picture
 

lazyboy97o

Well-Known Member
I see the Marvel licensing with Universal continuing. We make money off it without having spent a dime. Make the terms at tad more favorable and it should continue.
How would Disney get the terms to be more favorable? It's not like they can push for more when the deal is up for renewal. They have no grounds to renegotiate anything and it would all have to be done with Universal getting the say so with starting and ending such a process.
 

unkadug

Follower of "Saget"The Cult
How would Disney get the terms to be more favorable? It's not like they can push for more when the deal is up for renewal. They have no grounds to renegotiate anything and it would all have to be done with Universal getting the say so with starting and ending such a process.
Simply not renewing the deal is their bargaining chip.
 

PhotoDave219

Well-Known Member
How would Disney get the terms to be more favorable? It's not like they can push for more when the deal is up for renewal. They have no grounds to renegotiate anything and it would all have to be done with Universal getting the say so with starting and ending such a process.

Percentage of IOA's gate revenues. You can ALWAYS push for more.
 

lazyboy97o

Well-Known Member
Simply not renewing the deal is their bargaining chip.
The contract exists in perpetuity. There is no renewing. It is what it is forever unless Universal says otherwise.

Percentage of IOA's gate revenues. You can ALWAYS push for more.
But again, why would Universal agree to give a percentage of the gate when they do not have to make such a deal?
 

Darth Sidious

Authentically Disney Distinctly Chinese
Also knit pick every little thing that the contract stipulates, if I was them I'd go after them by saying certain things aren't upto agreed upon standards

Now that folks is their bargaining chip. This is likely already underway. They opened an office by Universal which I would presume is mostly accountants carefully making sure spending is upheld.
 

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