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Spaceship in Spaceship Earth

Bender123

Well-Known Member
But I'll say it again I don't think it was "failed" it was just never seen through. I'll need to read one of my books over again but one of the Imagineers who was borrowed from Horizons was brought in to oversee the completion of the moon part and he called it off at the last minute (hence the awkward moon cut outs). The spacestation effect wasn't failed and was very well recieved.
God...I hate that I remember all these...The satellite would have made a lot more sense with a ship. As it stands, it was just drifting around millions of miles from Earth. The lack of moon and space ship just made them feel out of place to me. Different strokes...I recall seeing the original mural design, somewhere, or I may have had seven too many beers last night. Sort of beside the point, but shows that the original top was drastically different from how it was planned.


If I may :D

Claudio Mazzoli painted the mural for SSE; Bob McCall painted the Prologue and the Promise that stood in Horizons until 1986. In the SSE mural, details can be found all the original 1982 ride. Interestingly, the original design was slightly different and featured the planned spaceship in 180top which the ride vehicles were to have exited out of.
 

Dragonman

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Does anyone have a complete list of the scenes and each of their individual animatronics/effects in the original incarnation of SE?
If anyone does it would be the all knowing, all seeing @marni1971

I can however list at least the most appropriate one for this thread.

180 top:
1 space station with lighted red engine lights and fibre optics in windows above
1 AA woman with orange spotlight and lighted transparent window behind her (possibly added in ‘86) inside cylindrical portion of space station
2 static astronaut figures
1 earth projection
1 large satellite with solar panels connected to cylindrical portion of space station with large mechanical arm
1 small satellite suspended from roof of the building, has minimal movement
Several portions of unfinished moon surface
Star projections in room

Btw here’s some good shots of the abandoned elements nowadays. You can see the moon surface a lot better here showing it’s not all flat cut outs.
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Disnerd2003

Active Member
Love this @Dragonman! I usually wait to ride SSE until right before park close when I'm generally alone and use the light on my cell phone to see this stuff (to the annoyance of my kids). Would give the world to see it come back as a blend of the Cronkite 180 top and Irons descent. Wish we could get out of the ride vehicles and run around like kids going where we aren't supposed to haha.
 

marni1971

WDW History nut
Premium Member
Thanks for confirming my theory about the two lights shining on window girl.


I’ve always wondered what happened to the scaffolding Egyptian. It really made no sense to remove him since they never reused him like they did with the Gutenberg press boy and the network ops lady. It would be nice to see him added back.
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Bumping my favourite thread :)

Apparently this figure had no animation; the arm and chisel were attached to a rod in the pillar that produced the motion. The motor in the pillar was long broken and the figure lifeless. It was decided to remove it to focus guests attention on the new mural behind the paper mashing man and the updated Egyptian throne room.
 

Thelazer

Well-Known Member
Anyone happen to know if the original liqued neon and other effects (infinity mirrors), were removed from the decent, or just covered up?
 

hakunamatata

Make The Universe Balanced Again
Premium Member
Love this @Dragonman! I usually wait to ride SSE until right before park close when I'm generally alone and use the light on my cell phone to see this stuff (to the annoyance of my kids). Would give the world to see it come back as a blend of the Cronkite 180 top and Irons descent. Wish we could get out of the ride vehicles and run around like kids going where we aren't supposed to haha.
My kids didnt believe me when I told them the original version of the attraction had the guy from the TV in the moon landing scene narrate it. I really loved Cronkites version. Ihope the new version has a narrator that has a distinguished voice.
 

KikoKea

Well-Known Member
Anyone happen to know if the original liqued neon and other effects (infinity mirrors), were removed from the decent, or just covered up?
I remember the descent as a kid- it was within a year or so after EPCOT opened. My dad was really taken by the whole theme of it being a glimpse of the future. I think the futurustic living room scene had a girl in Japan and someone in the US videochatting? Anyway, as we went backwards, it made me feel like the world was connected and there were amazing things to come. Now, DH and I check out the mid-century modern furniture of the not-very-futuristic scene. We really miss the lights, and wish the too-bright computer screen was gone. We've been known to cover the thing with our jacket, in the winter.
 

trainplane3

Well-Known Member
😳 I am utterly lost as to what provoked that absurd response but in any case, not cool, @WDW862 .

Is not even this thread sacred?

Anyway, to the original topic, I’m curious whether SSE was designed to accommodate a refurbishment to the extent of the upcoming. They can’t exactly cut into the side of the domes like you could a box, right? Is this where the civil engineering challenges come into play?
If I had to guess, it's down to how much the track is integrated with the supporting structure.

It needs love big time. The "clunk clunk" is really bad now.
 

Master Yoda

Pro Star Wars geek.
Premium Member
😳 I am utterly lost as to what provoked that absurd response but in any case, not cool, @WDW862 .

Is not even this thread sacred?

Anyway, to the original topic, I’m curious whether SSE was designed to accommodate a refurbishment to the extent of the upcoming. They can’t exactly cut into the side of the domes like you could a box, right? Is this where the civil engineering challenges come into play?
Cutting into the side of a sphere is not all that different than cutting into the side of a cube or any other shape for that matter.
 

larryz

Can't 'Member Anything
Premium Member
Cutting into the side of a sphere is not all that different than cutting into the side of a cube or any other shape for that matter.
Uh, how much support does the rest of the dome rely on from whatever structure will be cut out?
 

Master Yoda

Pro Star Wars geek.
Premium Member
Uh, how much support does the rest of the dome rely on from whatever structure will be cut out?
It all depends on where it is, what loads are going through it, and what exactly is being cut out. The odds that every structural element is uniformly loaded are pretty slim. A section could be supporting next to nothing to the whole freaking thing and everything in between.
 

marni1971

WDW History nut
Premium Member
😳 I am utterly lost as to what provoked that absurd response but in any case, not cool, @WDW862 .

Is not even this thread sacred?

Anyway, to the original topic, I’m curious whether SSE was designed to accommodate a refurbishment to the extent of the upcoming. They can’t exactly cut into the side of the domes like you could a box, right? Is this where the civil engineering challenges come into play?
Think more big changes at ground level.
 

MrHappy

Well-Known Member
Probably.

Possibly whole scale load and unload changes too. Why is beyond me.
Would it be for purely for aesthetics? I'm sure they'd want to incorporate the entrance into the new design of FW (the space between the unload and the fountain of nations. From the renderings, it looks like the load would be this "back" area, and the front is basically closed off. Am I anywhere near close on this one ;)
 
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