Spaceship Earth not finished?

HMF

Well-Known Member
And on a completely unrelated note, who made the decision to cut those cool flashing blue lights at the beginning of the ascent? Those looked really neat and made for a much more visually appealing beginning of the ride.
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Don't worry' They will be in version 5.:animwink:
 

HMF

Well-Known Member
Umm...No....It was changed from Communication to Futurism and Tech because the sponsor, Seimens wanted it to be, seeing that it's a company that deals in those industries. The dumbing down just came with that. :lol:
I don't really follow. The story is basically the same only dumbed down.
 

WDITrent

Active Member
You know, MiceChat made such a fuss about the small world rainforest that they kept small space for it...

...So, in a way, WDWmagic might might might might might potentially be able to sway something...

...Just sayin'. ;)
 

HMF

Well-Known Member
You know, MiceChat made such a fuss about the small world rainforest that they kept small space for it...

...So, in a way, WDWmagic might might might might might potentially be able to sway something...

...Just sayin'. ;)
That's because Micechat has Al Lutz.
 

EPCOT Explorer

New Member
I don't really follow. The story is basically the same only dumbed down.
The narration changed and many of the sets were "repurposed". Thus...Theme Change! :lol: Story, too.
You know, MiceChat made such a fuss about the small world rainforest that they kept small space for it...

...So, in a way, WDWmagic might might might might might potentially be able to sway something...

...Just sayin'. ;)

Too late. :(


Besides, all our reserves are fired on LoW. :lol:
 

WDITrent

Active Member
Well, Al Lutz recently did a column titled "Economy Class" about Space Mountain. All he needs to do is go pay a visit to SSE and write a column called "Neglect: TDO Mercilessly Abandons a Classic". ;)
 

HMF

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The narration changed and many of the sets were "repurposed". Thus...Theme Change! :lol: Story, too.
I am aware of that but it is still basically how man has gone from the caves to the reaches of space because of evolving Communication technology. BTW. the new script is so fragmented and dumbed down that it is very difficult to follow. compared to Irons anyway.
 

EPCOT Explorer

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I am aware of that but it is still basically how man has gone from the caves to the reaches of space because of evolving Communication technology. BTW. the new script is so fragmented and dumbed down that it is very difficult to follow. compared to Irons anyway.

I've never really gotten the "Fragmented" argument for this script. In fact...It flows MUCH better than any of the past ones, seeing that it continuously mentions how each scene relates to the future. The old scripts just gave a description to each scene. Dumbed down? Only two lines, for me (ABC & Taxes) and the intonation and inflection is off. The rest of it is fine, and just as good as Irons, IMHO.


And granted, the story of "Creating the Future One Step At Time" IS heavily slanted on Communication, but it HAS changed from it. It's evident in the presentation of the old scenes, the new ones, and the narration. Just listen to the opening.

SSE isn't as bad as it originally once was. They tweaked the hell out of that thing, and if the damn descent had something besides some cheesy screens, I really would have no problems. It's a EPCOT Center attraction in Epcot'09 and with a Epcot'09 feel to it. And a Epcot ending, if that makes any sense. The soul of this attraction is still VERY alive and well....It's just "unfinished."

And again...It could have been MUCH, much worse.
 

aladdin2007

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I've never really gotten the "Fragmented" argument for this script. In fact...It flows MUCH better than any of the past ones, seeing that it continuously mentions how each scene relates to the future. The old scripts just gave a description to each scene. Dumbed down? Only two lines, for me (ABC & Taxes) and the intonation and inflection is off. The rest of it is fine, and just as good as Irons, IMHO.


And granted, the story of "Creating the Future One Step At Time" IS heavily slanted on Communication, but it HAS changed from it. It's evident in the presentation of the old scenes, the new ones, and the narration. Just listen to the opening.

SSE isn't as bad as it originally once was. They tweaked the hell out of that thing, and if the damn descent had something besides some cheesy screens, I really would have no problems. It's a EPCOT Center attraction in Epcot'09 and with a Epcot'09 feel to it. And a Epcot ending, if that makes any sense. The soul of this attraction is still VERY alive and well....It's just "unfinished."

And again...It could have been MUCH, much worse.

Agree with the bold, however it apparently still needs tweaking as things are not working and being let go. Last week I reported about the hideous curtains in the ascent being a mess, the burning rome smell turned off, the glowing power lines in the operator scene turned off, and the horrible white lights on under the tracks in the cave scene and on the side wall in the star field top. Aside from all that though they could at least get rid of the trash laying on top the chicken wire and triangle panels if they arent going to do anything else, and get rid of the dumb panels too if they arent going to follow through with them. Those parts are the most uncalled for, the rest I can live with and just pout about it on my own. :wave:
 

EPCOT Explorer

New Member
Agree with the bold, however it apparently still needs tweaking as things are not working and being let go. Last week I reported about the hideous curtains in the ascent being a mess, the burning rome smell turned off, the glowing power lines in the operator scene turned off, and the horrible white lights on under the tracks in the cave scene and on the side wall in the star field top. Aside from all that though they could at least get rid of the trash laying on top the chicken wire and triangle panels if they arent going to do anything else, and get rid of the dumb panels too if they arent going to follow through with them. Those parts are the most uncalled for, the rest I can live with and just pout about it on my own. :wave:

Honestly, that sounds like work is being done, if anything. :lookaroun
 

DisneyNut2007

Active Member
You know, MiceChat made such a fuss about the small world rainforest that they kept small space for it...

...So, in a way, WDWmagic might might might might might potentially be able to sway something...

...Just sayin'. ;)

Sorry to tell you this, but that was just a coincidence and nothing more.

Lutz and his fellow S'Lutz will take credit for ANYTHING that happens in their favor like that, whether they caused it to happen or not.

Get it through your head! :mad:
 

mickey2008.1

Well-Known Member
sorry if i am not familiar with what the ending should have been, but it certainly seems more interactive and comical then the previous ending. It also uses the internet to send your video, which has not been done at any other park that i know of. it may not be landing on mars, which is not that futuristic anymore, except for the human, maybe the ending should have dealt with the ISS, not futuristic anymore either since we are doing it. So what would be a wow ending?
 

Hrudey3032

Well-Known Member
sorry if i am not familiar with what the ending should have been, but it certainly seems more interactive and comical then the previous ending. It also uses the internet to send your video, which has not been done at any other park that i know of. it may not be landing on mars, which is not that futuristic anymore, except for the human, maybe the ending should have dealt with the ISS, not futuristic anymore either since we are doing it. So what would be a wow ending?

You have been able to send your picture for years at Innoventions and the Imagination pavilion so this wasn't a big thing either even though it is a video not a picture(same concept and been around forever too) but this video has been going on forever i.e. the Jetson's. At least in the old ending there were things to see and the music was nice and I always loved it.Now when we hit the top I start to think about my next ride as Spaceship Earth's ride is over.
 

TheBeatles

Well-Known Member
So, is management or WDI to point fingers at?

The two arguments I see are:

1. Management cut the budget and this is the reason SEE came out bad.

2. WDI did a sub par job with the script and design and this is the reason it came out bad.

Are one of these arguments more valid than the other or are both the reason?
 

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