Space Mountain set to reopen Nov 22 2009 and TTA closing dates

[DisneyMusician2]

Well, Lets not forget, with Disneylands SM - it was a "sudden" (if you will) close. They found the track - for lack of a better term - broken - and had to shut it down sooner than they expected. They weren't ready for it to be rebuilt when it HAD to close.

From what I've been reading on here - Disney has already been in talks/ordered most everything (if all said is true). Sooooo, if the track is already made, and only has to be shipped - it could, a BIG could, only take them a few months.
Heck - look at Manta over at SeaWorld. It only took them, what, 3 months to put the track together (it started going vertical Sept 20th ish - and the last piece was put on Dec 12th). A roller coaster CAN be put together rather quickly if all the parts are already there, waiting to go.
And you already have the ground work done for SM - soo, it is possible, I would say for it to be done in Nov.

Of course, we all know how things can and usually do go... :brick:
Pretty much a wait and see timeline now...as I see it.

I would be very impressed if they really got this timeframe right with all the upgrades it would take to rally makeover SM.

But if the parts are ordered it could save them SOME time, I suppose.

 

[hardcard]

Wow... Steve posts the EXACT same information I posted about Space Mountain yesterday, and instead of flaming him with the "It'll never happen, don't kid yourself...you don't know what you are talking about" postss like I was... He's placated..... I guess you guys know where your bread is buttered.. but no.. Mickey Monitor can't be right!



No offense meant to you steve.. Double standards frustrate me...

 

[fosse76]

I'll voice the question that everyone is asking.

How are we going to get the rumored substantial refurb (track/support replacement, load area, new cars, audio, etc.) that replaced the rumored cleaning and maintenance only refurb that replaced the rumored unkown extent of the refurb that replaced the original grand plans for a complete rebuild of SM a la Disneyland's...

...in seven months?

If Six Flags and Cedar Fair, etc. can install a technologically far superior rollercoaster in less than four months, there is no reason a refurbishment can't be done in 7 months. The fact that the ride is indoors complicates it, but I'm guessing they aren't changing every little thing inside the building.

 

[hack2112]

Heck - look at Manta over at SeaWorld. It only took them, what, 3 months to put the track together (it started going vertical Sept 20th ish - and the last piece was put on Dec 12th). A roller coaster CAN be put together rather quickly if all the parts are already there, waiting to go.

The same thing is happening with Hollywood Rip, Ride, Rockit, and that is a much more spread out coaster, considering all the places it goes.

Plus, the new stage Uni built is beautiful. It looks almost exactly like the Hollywood Bowl.

 

[MousDad]

If Six Flags and Cedar Fair, etc. can install a technologically far superior rollercoaster in less than four months, there is no reason a refurbishment can't be done in 7 months. The fact that the ride is indoors complicates it, but I'm guessing they aren't changing every little thing inside the building.

Hey, if we get the refurb Lee's hoping for in 7 months, you won't hear a complaint out of me.

If they know it's going to take 12, and they're officially saying it's going to take 7 for their own self-gratifying purposes, then I think that's low class.

 

[GothMickey]

Hey, if we get the refurb Lee's hoping for in 7 months, you won't hear a complaint out of me.

If they know it's going to take 12, and they're officially saying it's going to take 7 for their own self-gratifying purposes, then I think that's low class.

Been than mantra lately, hasn't it?

 

[CaptainMichael]

Whatever date they want to throw out is fine. That one has been out for weeks, even passed on to travel agents some time

They are just setting themselves up for legitimate guest complaints. I think it would be better to say Spring 2010 and open early than say November 22 and be wrong.

Of course they could just get CPs to build it...we don't get overtime.:lol:

I did in Fall 2007. I made more in one shift than I had ever made in an entire week on New Years Eve.

 

[nibblesandbits]

Wow... Steve posts the EXACT same information I posted about Space Mountain yesterday, and instead of flaming him with the "It'll never happen, don't kid yourself...you don't know what you are talking about" postss like I was... He's placated..... I guess you guys know where your bread is buttered.. but no.. Mickey Monitor can't be right!



No offense meant to you steve.. Double standards frustrate me...

I'm pretty sure Steve got the info from the Mickey Monitor...now...that doesn't mean he believes it to be correct, but it was the date put out by Disney, so he went with it, as that was all he had to go on as well.

However, I believe what some of the insiders here are saying...I bet it will be down for longer than 7 months...but I believe that Disney is putting out the Nov. date as a way to lure people into convincing people that it will be up and then...oh...oh no...we ran into trouble and it's gonna last longer than we though.

It wasn't necessarily meant to be a double standard...it's just that a lot of us believe that it's a "temporary" date. One that will be pushed back later in the year.

 

[nibblesandbits]

They are just setting themselves up for legitimate guest complaints. I think it would be better to say Spring 2010 and open early than say November 22 and be wrong.

I actually agree with you...this is the better option...give us all a date that is further than they think it will be and then if it the refurb ends early, they can open early...yay! Not the other way around.

However, we both know they won't do that...it interferes with bookings...people might skip their vacations if the date that's out there is all the way into 2010. With the date that's out there now though, people will be more likely to plan a vacay, pay for it, then if Disney announces "oh, we need to extend the dates.", those people may be upset, but they are less likely to cancel said vacation. So, Disney still gets the money out of them. Ah...corporate America.

 

[marni1971]

My god.... either Holmes got his way and this is going to be not what we wanted, or it`s PR spin gone mad. Granted, work has already been done 3rd shift (don`t ask) but this is even less than Holmes' original 9 month maximum. Off a digging I will go (I`m still told early 2010)

 

[CaptainMichael]

I actually agree with you...this is the better option...give us all a date that is further than they think it will be and then if it the refurb ends early, they can open early...yay! Not the other way around.

However, we both know they won't do that...it interferes with bookings...people might skip their vacations if the date that's out there is all the way into 2010. With the date that's out there now though, people are less likely to plan a vacay, pay for it, then Disney announces "oh, we need to extend the dates.", and then they cancel. So, Disney still gets the money out of them. Ah...corporate America.

None of this would be a problem if, let's say, Villain Land w/accompanying mountain was opening this Spring at Magic Kingdom. No one would care that Space was down...Ah, to only have a plan in place for inevitable rehabs like this...

 

[nibblesandbits]

None of this would be a problem if, let's say, Villain Land w/accompanying mountain was opening this Spring at Magic Kingdom. No one would care that Space was down...Ah, to only have a plan in place for inevitable rehabs like this...

No...you're right there too...planning this out better would have been a smarter option...but alas...that's not what we got either...

 

[WDW1974]

I stand by everything I've said recently regarding the opening. Anyone expecting to ride this before 2010 is setting themselves up for likely a big disappointment despite what Phil Holmes wants (it would have collapsed before he'd ever have closed it for a single day). Is it possible? Well, anything is.

BTW, remember when that wacko Disney-hater WDW1974 told you that Typhoon Lagoon wouldn't open as scheduled in late March if the economy continued to fall and that they'd use construction delays as an excuse ... well, it's looking like May or June might be dead accurate.

So, no, I wouldn't trust anything Disney says these days.

 

[CaptainMichael]

No...you're right there too...planning this out better would have been a smarter option...but alas...that's not what we got either...

So what have we gotten nibbs? A headache of uncertainty?:ROFLOL:

 

[WDW1974]

None of this would be a problem if, let's say, Villain Land w/accompanying mountain was opening this Spring at Magic Kingdom. No one would care that Space was down...Ah, to only have a plan in place for inevitable rehabs like this...

No. It wouldn't be a problem if Disney hadn't of spent the past decade plus cutting capacity, cutting entertainment, even shuttering shops ... it wouldn't be a problem if every guest didn't seemingly feel entitled to be there when every attraction was operating ... it wouldn't be a problem if Disney's kneejerk 'leadership' team didn't go to pieces whenever a guest complained because an attraction was closed for rehab, you know what used to be SOP.

I swear a whole generation has grown up not knowing what a "Sorry this attraction is being refurbished for your future enjoyment' sign looks like.

 

[mcjaco]

I stand by everything I've said recently regarding the opening. Anyone expecting to ride this before 2010 is setting themselves up for likely a big disappointment despite what Phil Holmes wants (it would have collapsed before he'd ever have closed it for a single day). Is it possible? Well, anything is.

BTW, remember when that wacko Disney-hater WDW1974 told you that Typhoon Lagoon wouldn't open as scheduled in late March if the economy continued to fall and that they'd use construction delays as an excuse ... well, it's looking like May or June might be dead accurate.

So, no, I wouldn't trust anything Disney says these days.

I've heard from my people we shouldn't believe anything you say either.

:lookaroun

 

[WDW1974]

I've heard from my people we shouldn't believe anything you say either.

:lookaroun

You got people?

 

[CaptainMichael]

No. It wouldn't be a problem if Disney hadn't of spent the past decade plus cutting capacity, cutting entertainment, even shuttering shops ... it wouldn't be a problem if every guest didn't seemingly feel entitled to be there when every attraction was operating ... it wouldn't be a problem if Disney's kneejerk 'leadership' team didn't go to pieces whenever a guest complained because an attraction was closed for rehab, you know what used to be SOP.

I swear a whole generation has grown up not knowing what a "Sorry this attraction is being refurbished for your future enjoyment' sign looks like.

They had the perfect opportunity to make a big splash when they filled in the 20k lagoon...instead, we got a playground.

 

[nibblesandbits]

So what have we gotten nibbs? A headache of uncertainty?:ROFLOL:

Yes...:lol: a headache is quite accurate.

No. It wouldn't be a problem if Disney hadn't of spent the past decade plus cutting capacity, cutting entertainment, even shuttering shops ... it wouldn't be a problem if every guest didn't seemingly feel entitled to be there when every attraction was operating ... it wouldn't be a problem if Disney's kneejerk 'leadership' team didn't go to pieces whenever a guest complained because an attraction was closed for rehab, you know what used to be SOP.

I swear a whole generation has grown up not knowing what a "Sorry this attraction is being refurbished for your future enjoyment' sign looks like.

Ah...society...can't settle for disappointment anymore...gotta love it... :brick: We're all entitled to everything. Does it suck that my favorite ride will be closed when I'm down there in Sept? Yep...sure does. Will I be able to live with my disappointment? Yep...I'm a big girl...and I've been disappointed before. I've lived through it...and guess what? I'll be disappointed again. Unfortunately, the rest of society has been conditioned by everyone that disappointment is the end of the world and shouldn't be allowed.

 

[mcjaco]

You got people?

Have your people, call mine.