Space Mountain Heading to the Scrap Heap :)

thanks for the update
and since im a little north in ohio i would love to see pics
1 more thing why scape everything they could sell it
i believe their are people out who would buy that suck
just a thought
 

Lee

Adventurer
I take it meaning Space Mountain is looking at a reopening date after November, possibly 2010??? Right Lee?? Maybe they found structural issues after all???
No.:rolleyes:
Based on what I learned the last few days, SM will most likely open in November.
However...it seems that (sadly, kinda like SSE) the ride that opens in November will not be the totally finished product. Some of what is being done now is laying the groundwork for further enhancements down the road.
 

EPCOT Explorer

New Member
No.:rolleyes:
Based on what I learned the last few days, SM will most likely open in November.
However...it seems that (sadly, kinda like SSE) the ride that opens in November will not be the totally finished product. Some of what is being done now is laying the groundwork for further enhancements down the road.

It's disappointing, but at least the job gets done, right?

I kinda wish we knew about SSE in this fashion. Mighta softened the blow.
 

Cap10_Mickey

New Member
For those of you posting on here about how bumpy WDW's SM is I'll give you a fantastic hint to make the ride more bearable............

Ride in the front seat! :eek: And, no, I'm not kidding. There is a remarkably different ride from the front to the back on SM. This phenomena is typical of wooden coasters, and actually atypical of tubular steel ones. And that makes SM very unique, and fun. Which brings me to my next point a wish list:

1) Add music to the ride
2) Fix up the queue (after the the star tunnel)
3) Update/replace the control system to avoid the frequent shutdowns
4) Don't play with the track layouts - they are fantastic! - but fix whatever should be fixed to keep it safe
5) Replace the post-show (the whole FedEx thing was nifty at the time, but really doesn't make sense without their sponsorship anymore - Anybody remember, "Back at the lab, the package is received by...seems like the lab retriever" :ROFLOL:)

WDW's SM is amazing - a lot of folks on here have griped about this not being a total gut-and-rebuild. I can't agree. Please, somebody name another coaster that can make 23 mph feel so much faster or so much more fun. I've ridden quite a few coasters...RnR (of course), Hulk, Dueling Dragons, Xtreme (SF Magic Mountain), Texas Giant (SF TX), MegaZeph (SF New Orleans - "Ain't 'dere no more")...and I like them all. But no other coaster I've ridden comes close to the "just plain fun" factor that SM has. Ok, I lied...there is one, DL's Matterhorn, which just so happens to share a double-track layout practically xeroxed for...oh yeah, WDW's SM. I for one, would be very sad to see our classic SM go all together. I'd much rather them keep the classic - in good shape, mind you, with my list of enhancements above - and spend the major bucks building something entirely new with all these nifty sound/water/fire/fog effects everyone here is drooling over (i.e. SF's new Terminator coaster) in one of the open areas of the park - for example, the old Bald Mountain (aka Fire Mountain) idea for "Pooh's Playful Place" - the former 20k lagoon. Just my $.02 :cool:
 

MousDad

New Member
No.:rolleyes:
Based on what I learned the last few days, SM will most likely open in November.
However...it seems that (sadly, kinda like SSE) the ride that opens in November will not be the totally finished product. Some of what is being done now is laying the groundwork for further enhancements down the road.

Definitely starting to see a pattern here. Do you think they are taking this new approach for budgetary reasons, attendance/demand reasons, or a combination of both?
 

RSoxNo1

Well-Known Member
I'll be on Disneyland's Space Mountain either today or tomorrow. I was blown away by it two years ago, so I'll be using it as the basis of my comparison for riding the WDW version in December. I know the expectation right now is that the WDW version will not be as good as Disneyland's version in December, but will it approach it in December 2010?
 

Master Yoda

Pro Star Wars geek.
Premium Member
Cheapness.:shrug: They don't want to have a crowd eater close for so long?:shrug:
Correct. This whole thing has been a tug of war between park operations and WDI. For what we have been hearing the budget was there to gut the place but MK management did not want an E-ticket down for more than 6 months. What we will more than likely get is what we got and are still getting at SSE. The heavy duty stuff will be done during the closure and the rest will be done during 3rd shift for god only knows how long.
 

EPCOT Explorer

New Member
Correct. This whole thing has been a tug of war between park operations and WDI. For what we have been hearing the budget was there to gut the place but MK management did not want an E-ticket down for more than 6 months. What we will more than likely get is what we got and are still getting at SSE. The heavy duty stuff will be done during the closure and the rest will be done during 3rd shift for god only knows how long.

Most definitely my biggest pet peeve about this Management Team at TDO. What ever happened to a HUGE re-opening with a finished, stellar, updated attraction? :(
 

hpyhnt 1000

Well-Known Member
Correct. This whole thing has been a tug of war between park operations and WDI. For what we have been hearing the budget was there to gut the place but MK management did not want an E-ticket down for more than 6 months. What we will more than likely get is what we got and are still getting at SSE. The heavy duty stuff will be done during the closure and the rest will be done during 3rd shift for god only knows how long.

Well, thats just stupid. Where did they find these park ops people? I mean, do they consider SSE a success? Do they really want to have every refurb follow down that path? What is wrong with them??? :brick:

So instead of a nice, tidy 12-15 month refurb where everything is operational at the end, we should expect about a 24(+) month long refurb where only the necessary is done in the first 6 months and then everything else slowly comes on line. Great...
 

jt04

Well-Known Member
Correct. This whole thing has been a tug of war between park operations and WDI. For what we have been hearing the budget was there to gut the place but MK management did not want an E-ticket down for more than 6 months. What we will more than likely get is what we got and are still getting at SSE. The heavy duty stuff will be done during the closure and the rest will be done during 3rd shift for god only knows how long.

To infinity and beyond. :brick:
 

Master Yoda

Pro Star Wars geek.
Premium Member
Well, thats just stupid. Where did they find these park ops people? I mean, do they consider SSE a success? Do they really want to have every refurb follow down that path? What is wrong with them??? :brick:

So instead of a nice, tidy 12-15 month refurb where everything is operational at the end, we should expect about a 24(+) month long refurb where only the necessary is done in the first 6 months and then everything else slowly comes on line. Great...
I wish I could tell you what they were thinking. It is definitely short sighted IMHO. I do see their point...having SM down for 2 years would be a hard pill to swallow, but the end result would be well worth it. What I think we will end up with is a refurb that is only a faction of what it could have been and to add insult to injury it will end up costing more in the long run.
 

EPCOT Explorer

New Member
I wish I could tell you what they were thinking. It is definitely short sighted IMHO. I do see their point...having SM down for 2 years would be a hard pill to swallow, but the end result would be well worth it. What I think we will end up with is a refurb that is only a faction of what it could have been and to add insult to injury it will end up costing more in the long run.
Even if it wasn't THAT long...:dazzle:

Just do some major work, open it, and be done. None of this that keeps us wondering if it's done ala SSE.
 

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