News Space Mountain exit being worked on

tirian

tirian

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Rodan75 said:
They should bite the bullet and do it now. Just close down that end of the park and finish Tron and the SM re-track.
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The MK can’t support a Space closure until Tron opens because the park has been under-built so long that one Mt. refurb causes cascading problems everywhere else. That’s why the last refurb was cut short — @marni1971 can correct me if I’m wrong, but I vaguely remember the cuts being due more to operational capacity than pure budget (although that was involved).

The FL expansion didn’t add enough capacity, since it simply replaced previously lost counts. And FP+ hasn’t helped with crowd flow either.
 
Jon81uk

Jon81uk

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tirian said:
The MK can’t support a Space closure until Tron opens because the park has been under-built so long that one Mt. refurb causes cascading problems everywhere else. That’s why the last refurb was cut short — @marni1971 can correct me if I’m wrong, but I vaguely remember the cuts being due more to operational capacity than pure budget (although that was involved).

The FL expansion didn’t add enough capacity, since it simply replaced previously lost counts. And FP+ hasn’t helped with crowd flow either.
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Although the MK is still much more built-out than the other parks, you would hope that the additions to other parks help spread the crowds further. In fact adding more attractions to MK just encourages second and third days at the same park instead of people spreading themselves around WDW.

But I agree they can't really close Space Mountain until Tron opens.
 
janoimagine

janoimagine

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cheezbat said:
I’m just hoping in a few years they finally take Space Mountain down for a solid year plus refurb and address not only a full rebuild of the ride, but some serious thematic upgrades to both the queue and exit.

Space Mountain in Florida May be the original, but it is in my opinion the worst by far.
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I think when compared to Anaheim's, Orlando's still has more potential, yes, the onboard Audio at Anaheim's is fantastic, but I think if done right, Orlando could have the best one overall. I was so frustrated last time we rode it, all the audio cue's were off throughout the ride ... I still have no idea why they changed the launch tube audio .... the old one was better IMO. The ride just needs some proper love ... and adding video games to the que was by far one of the worst ideas ever to come out of imagineering ... but also a huge waste of money that could have been allocated elsewhere seeing as now they have been removed after what? 3 years, maybe 4? It's hard to make sense of the decisions being made ... other than an accountant looking at a spreadsheet -vs- actually getting out of their cube and experiencing it first hand.
 
Rodan75

Rodan75

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tirian said:
The MK can’t support a Space closure until Tron opens because the park has been under-built so long that one Mt. refurb causes cascading problems everywhere else. That’s why the last refurb was cut short — @marni1971 can correct me if I’m wrong, but I vaguely remember the cuts being due more to operational capacity than pure budget (although that was involved).

The FL expansion didn’t add enough capacity, since it simply replaced previously lost counts. And FP+ hasn’t helped with crowd flow either.
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I totally agree. But they have to bite this bullet sometime and doing it before they have another draw into the park and into WDW on the whole is probably the only real time to do it. Because if they don't do it now, they won't be able to do it until after the 50th celebration and given the attendance trends and what is on the calendar so far to be built, the capacity issue only gets worse.
 
Rodan75

Rodan75

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Jon81uk said:
Although the MK is still much more built-out than the other parks, you would hope that the additions to other parks help spread the crowds further. In fact adding more attractions to MK just encourages second and third days at the same park instead of people spreading themselves around WDW.

But I agree they can't really close Space Mountain until Tron opens.
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But I think this becomes the EE argument again, they can't really close SM once Tron opens either. Tron will draw so many folks to that end of the park that they will need the additional capacity of SM even more.

They survived Splash being closed and BTM being closed in the past, they will survive without Space Mountain.
 
Coasterninja

Coasterninja

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Here's an idea: Why not refurbish half of the track at a time? Take it down for a month or two to deal with the overlapping parts of the layout, and then keep one side open at a time without Fastpass+, if capacity really is an issue. Work could be done at night to prevent the experience being weakened by work lights being on.
 
trainplane3

trainplane3

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Coasterninja said:
Here's an idea: Why not refurbish half of the track at a time? Take it down for a month or two to deal with the overlapping parts of the layout, and then keep one side open at a time without Fastpass+, if capacity really is an issue. Work could be done at night to prevent the experience being weakened by work lights being on.
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We're not talking just track, we mean the entirety of it. The structure is so intertwined with both sides crossing each other that you'd have to demo it all and rebuild. Even if it was only track you would still have the issue.
 
meyeet

meyeet

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How long would a complete retrack take? Disney should have the resources to knock this out in less time if they are willing to spend the money to do it. I'm talking 24x7 construction with multiple crews.

If the track is in bad of shape as some have indicated, I would think they would want this to be a priority, otherwise the opportunity to do it may be gone for another 5 years.
 
flynnibus

flynnibus

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Coasterninja said:
Here's an idea: Why not refurbish half of the track at a time? Take it down for a month or two to deal with the overlapping parts of the layout, and then keep one side open at a time without Fastpass+, if capacity really is an issue. Work could be done at night to prevent the experience being weakened by work lights being on.
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Can't really have a open construction area in the same area as the operating ride. It is after-all, one big dome :)
 
trainplane3

trainplane3

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meyeet said:
How long would a complete retrack take? Disney should have the resources to knock this out in less time if they are willing to spend the money to do it. I'm talking 24x7 construction with multiple crews.

If the track is in bad of shape as some have indicated, I would think they would want this to be a priority, otherwise the opportunity to do it may be gone for another 5 years.
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Disney doesn't work like that anymore. Though...apparently SWGE in DL went into 24x7 mode 2 months (I think) ago since it's getting close to opening.

Well Disneyland's continued to operate up until there was either a failure or signs that a failure was imminent (insiders seemed flipped on this). We know the ride closed unexpectedly before the park opened. But the track was already ordered and it was set to go down "soon". It took them roughly two years but probably could've been shorter since they started working before track was on-site.It took them 2 years to do it but could've been faster if the track was on-site sooner.

Let's just hope they keep on welding the welds of the welds and another DL BTMRR doesn't happen (aka improper maintenance).
 

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