Space Mountain
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Well I don't know what to take of this.. I will say that 2 things listed are incorrect. And for that 5th gate, don't count on it..at all. I'd spill what I know but I know I need to keep my mouth shut :zipit:
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Some wild (and some not-so-wild) rumors on WDW Radio Show Podcast - January 6th
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Well I don't know what to take of this.. I will say that 2 things listed are incorrect. And for that 5th gate, don't count on it..at all. I'd spill what I know but I know I need to keep my mouth shut :zipit:
disnyfan89
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Since this information has not been posted I figure I would chime in.
$300 is obviously just a rough estimate of the price. Looking at the Discovery Cove web site pricing for their "All Inclusive Package" ranges from $269-$289 and during the slower season you also get seven consecutive days at either Sea World or Busch Gardens. Or you can get both for an extra $20 and starting in the spring you can get both plus the new water park for $50. All inclusive includes A swim with a Dolphin, Snorkeling in their two snorkeling areas all day, entrance into the bird atrium where you can feed the birds till your hearts content, breakfast, lunch, all the snacks you can eat, use of their snorkeling equipment including mask, snorkel, and wet suit, and a locker. I have been to Discovery Cove three times and it really is not a lot to do.
On the subject of Cast Member admission for Discovery Cove employees receive two comp tickets excluding the Dolphin experiences. One comp ticket must be used by the sea world employee. They could add on the Dolphin experience for an additional cost. Lunch was not included. Disney could very easily do something similar to this.
When it comes to hours for Discovery Cove they are not posted online that I could see. If I remember correctly it opened around Nine or ten and would be open until about four or five.
Now lets talk about placement for this so called Disney project. It would be around Animal Kingdom and open at around four. This to me seems like strategic planning. Since Animal Kingdom closes early it would be very easy to send AK's CM to this new exclusive park to help staff it. Eliminate PI all together and you get more CM from there. Depending on how close this park is you could use AK's entertainment facility for characters at the new park much in the same way Epcot and DHS and MK send Characters out for resort dinning.
If Sea World can do it, Disney could find a way to do it bigger and better.
$300 is obviously just a rough estimate of the price. Looking at the Discovery Cove web site pricing for their "All Inclusive Package" ranges from $269-$289 and during the slower season you also get seven consecutive days at either Sea World or Busch Gardens. Or you can get both for an extra $20 and starting in the spring you can get both plus the new water park for $50. All inclusive includes A swim with a Dolphin, Snorkeling in their two snorkeling areas all day, entrance into the bird atrium where you can feed the birds till your hearts content, breakfast, lunch, all the snacks you can eat, use of their snorkeling equipment including mask, snorkel, and wet suit, and a locker. I have been to Discovery Cove three times and it really is not a lot to do.
On the subject of Cast Member admission for Discovery Cove employees receive two comp tickets excluding the Dolphin experiences. One comp ticket must be used by the sea world employee. They could add on the Dolphin experience for an additional cost. Lunch was not included. Disney could very easily do something similar to this.
When it comes to hours for Discovery Cove they are not posted online that I could see. If I remember correctly it opened around Nine or ten and would be open until about four or five.
Now lets talk about placement for this so called Disney project. It would be around Animal Kingdom and open at around four. This to me seems like strategic planning. Since Animal Kingdom closes early it would be very easy to send AK's CM to this new exclusive park to help staff it. Eliminate PI all together and you get more CM from there. Depending on how close this park is you could use AK's entertainment facility for characters at the new park much in the same way Epcot and DHS and MK send Characters out for resort dinning.
If Sea World can do it, Disney could find a way to do it bigger and better.
Thiger
New Member
$300 fifth gate?
no thanks.
I mean, you can barely get people out to PI for free (or nearly free).
Disney's best bet is put all of their purposed 5th gate money into making 2 e-tickets for each park and a few minor rides as well. Add another theater for Soarin, create a few AC-like clubs (possibly tortuga/pirate bar) and a karaoke bar.
Although I dream of a fifth gate one day, (I think a Disney/ Nintendo 'super mario world' theme would be a potter-killer), now is not the time. Focus on making each park a 10-20% fuller experience and boom.
Although thats just my 2 cents...
no thanks.
I mean, you can barely get people out to PI for free (or nearly free).
Disney's best bet is put all of their purposed 5th gate money into making 2 e-tickets for each park and a few minor rides as well. Add another theater for Soarin, create a few AC-like clubs (possibly tortuga/pirate bar) and a karaoke bar.
Although I dream of a fifth gate one day, (I think a Disney/ Nintendo 'super mario world' theme would be a potter-killer), now is not the time. Focus on making each park a 10-20% fuller experience and boom.
Although thats just my 2 cents...
Mecha Figment
New Member
mario sells games, but i don't see a theme park based on it doing well in any other country other than japan.
jt04
Well-Known Member
A wrecking ball might help. It's not being maintained in any meaningful way (unlike the Epcot monorail station) which is why I think something new may be planned. :lookaroun
Mr.EPCOT
Active Member
Are you now encased in a high-tech Gizmo suit?
majortom1981
Active Member
I don't see a 5th gate relating to thrill rides being added. I think for disney to do that it would be way to expensive.
Roller coasters are expensive and with disneys theming would be even more expensive. There is too much competition in the thrill category and disney would have better use for this money at their other parks. I can see more of an upcharge addition to animal kingdom going in though.
Roller coasters are expensive and with disneys theming would be even more expensive. There is too much competition in the thrill category and disney would have better use for this money at their other parks. I can see more of an upcharge addition to animal kingdom going in though.
Swim with great white sharks at AK....A new attraction that is invitation only. It will only be given to those guests that demand a free DVC membership and lifetime passes when they complain about the rain storm that completely ruined their vacation.:lookaroun
Wasn't there supposed to be some sort of motocross event there?
RSoxNo1
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I don't think $300 would be ridiculous for a high end park, especially when you consider what a realistic timetable for that park would be. Look ahead several years, factor in a limited number of people admitted, (which would obviously be an appeal) and nothing but e-ticket attractions. With that said, I don't believe this is seriously on the table, at least not as something that would be announced this year.
As for a new Soarin screen, I'm under the impression that they would add 2 screens as opposed to one, based on how the previous two (DCA and Epcot) buildings have been designed.
What makes these rumors sound false to me, is what's missing from them. There's nothing there for DHS, when most people are of the opinion that even after Toy Story Mania, that something else is coming there.
As for a new Soarin screen, I'm under the impression that they would add 2 screens as opposed to one, based on how the previous two (DCA and Epcot) buildings have been designed.
What makes these rumors sound false to me, is what's missing from them. There's nothing there for DHS, when most people are of the opinion that even after Toy Story Mania, that something else is coming there.
PhilharMagician
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OMG here goes my blood pressure. I guess all I will say is :brick:
PKD
Active Member
Keep in mind that SeaWorld Crew Members do not get into Discovery Cove for free. IF such a 5th gate were to happen the way this rumor says, I don't see why Disney doesn't follow the go the same route.
Cast Members don't get into the water parks, DQ, and some nights at PI, so Disney could possibly throw the 5th gate with them for admission rules. Again, if it were to ever happen.
He didn't say "blatherin'!"
I'd go for another Soarin' building. The lines there were insane when I went. But considering the space needed and how much it would cost, I wouldn't be surprised if it didn't happen.
Enderikari
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I was wondering if anyone was going to get the reference. A tip of the hat to you sir
JimboJones123
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Drake Mallard could give a flip...
sublimesting
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Is that Lou Mongello's podcast? He does great work, lots of research and has many resources at his disposal. Althought the 5th gate as it is written seems extraordinarily unlikely. Let's think about this, a ticket at MK for the day is about $70.00. So a themepark open from 4-midnight would be a 1/2 day park and thus should cost about $35.00. So we have a mark-up of $265 for "free" food. The DW and I make very good money and would NEVER drop that kind of coin on a night out. A family of 4 would need over 1K. That's nuts.
Now, if we take the price out of consideration, I can totally see a 5th gate being thrill rides to take on Universal and like another poster said it wouldn't be canibalizing from your own parks but would attract a totally different crowd.