MK SOFT OPENING WATCH - Seven Dwarfs Mine Train Coaster

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Noticing lots of issues with groups unable to decide who rides with who after they get to load. The confusion is slowing boarding and forcing trains to dispatch with many empty seats.

Tip: ONLY 2 per row, no exceptions so decide who is with who before you get to load and no last minute changes to keep things moving. The way seats are designed you cannot squeeze a little one in between.

Also, posted 90 minute standby line is actually only 60. At merge now.

You would think groups would be familiar with a 2 across seating map. It must be the new ride smell. The fumes are causing mental processing difficulties!

 

[jlsHouston]

I just heard from a guest here at CSR he was offered FP's for the ride from an email. Is this how people are getting FP's for the ride?

 

[aka_emilicious]

They have an interesting grouping procedure from an operation stand point. After merge, odd numbered groups go in one line and even in the other. I'm curious if this is any faster than the usual load procedure.

 

[donsullivan]

I just heard from a guest here at CSR he was offered FP's for the ride from an email. Is this how people are getting FP's for the ride?

If you had a FP for the period when it was 101 you got an email telling you experience was unavailable and you then have an open FP for one time use on a range of attractions for rest of day. That may be what they were referring to.

 

[doctornick]

Noticing lots of issues with groups unable to decide who rides with who after they get to load. The confusion is slowing boarding and forcing trains to dispatch with many empty seats.

Tip: ONLY 2 per row, no exceptions so decide who is with who before you get to load and no last minute changes to keep things moving. The way seats are designed you cannot squeeze a little one in between.

Well, part of that is simply being a new ride, so people don't really know what to expect in terms of the seat configuration. As more people have experience with the ride, it will be less of an issue (and the CMs will also be better aware and able to quickly deal with it).

 

[donsullivan]

They have an interesting grouping procedure from an operation stand point. After merge, odd numbered groups go in one line and even in the other. I'm curious if this is any faster than the usual load procedure.

From what I've seen in my half dozen rides so far it seems to work pretty well. It's kind of a prestaging area that seems to keep actual load filling pretty smoothly, except for the groups I referred to earlier.

 

[MOXOMUMD]

You would think groups would be familiar with a 2 across seating map. It must be the new ride smell. The fumes are causing mental processing difficulties!

Not as good as new car smell I'll bet.

 

[Rob562]

From what I've seen in my half dozen rides so far it seems to work pretty well. It's kind of a prestaging area that seems to keep actual load filling pretty smoothly, except for the groups I referred to earlier.

It's one way to fill a coaster without having a Single Rider line...

Had a Grouper at RnRC trying to do this on their own last year to the detriment of the Single Rider line. The only time Singles were moving in at all was when you had an odd-numbered group in the main queue being followed by an even-numbered group. The Singles line was stretched almost all the way back to the preshow room. Eventually a Lead stepped in and churned things out the way they were supposed to be done there.

-Rob

 

[cw1982]

It's one way to fill a coaster without having a Single Rider line...

Had a Grouper at RnRC trying to do this on their own last year to the detriment of the Single Rider line. The only time Singles were moving in at all was when you had an odd-numbered group in the main queue being followed by an even-numbered group. The Singles line was stretched almost all the way back to the preshow room. Eventually a Lead stepped in and churned things out the way they were supposed to be done there.

-Rob

Silly question:

How is the Single Rider line supposed to work, if not just to fill in odd-numbered groups? Not being sarcastic here... seriously didn't know there was another way to do it

 

[wdisney9000]

Silly question:

How is the Single Rider line supposed to work, if not just to fill in odd-numbered groups? Not being sarcastic here... seriously didn't know there was another way to do it

Ya, I don't understand the difference between having single rider vs. odd number rider line. I would think being able to add one single rider to a "two person ride vehicle" would be easier than having odd number groups. Does anyone know the formula?

 

[cw1982]

Ya, I don't understand the difference between having single rider vs. odd number rider line. I would think being able to add one single rider to a "two person ride vehicle" would be easier than having odd number groups. Does anyone know the formula?

Glad I'm not the only one who's scratching my head over this

 

[Gregoryp73]

Glad I'm not the only one who's scratching my head over this

By putting odd number groups together, you'll always have even amounts of riders, hence limiting the need for single riders.

 

[wdisney9000]

By putting odd number groups together, you'll always have even amounts of riders, hence limiting the need for single riders.

If three groups of three people walk in, you have 9 people. Still an odd number

 

[Tom]

If three groups of three people walk in, you have 9 people. Still an odd number

You pull the two groups of 3 and fill 3 rows of two.

 

[Rob562]

Silly question:

How is the Single Rider line supposed to work, if not just to fill in odd-numbered groups? Not being sarcastic here... seriously didn't know there was another way to do it

The others got it on how the Mine Train system works. It's a way to handle odd-numbered groups without needing the space to run a dedicated Single Rider queue.

The problem with what I experienced at RnRC was that rather than grouping a party of 3 and filling them in with a Single Rider (which is how Single Rider works at all of the attractions that have it), the grouper was then asking the size of the next party in the main queue. If it was odd-numbered, they'd have the odd person out fill in the available seat with the party before. Sometimes if the next group was a small even-numbered group she'd even stick them at the back of the train to get them out of the way, hoping that the group behind *them* were an odd-number.

It was very odd, almost like she didn't want to use the Single Rider unless absolutely necessary. In fact, I think I recall seeing people who'd gotten in the Standby queue the same time we entered the Singles queue actually *pass* us near the boarding platform and ride before we did.

-Rob

 

[Cesar R M]

No I wouldn't assume that. I think it is likely, but there have been cases in the past where soft opens have stopped for a day or so before the official open for some final tweaks.

I wonder if they really took into consideration all the abuse of the 24 hour event.
I'm pretty sure they had a lot of suggestions, comments, CM talk..etc..

 

[Cesar R M]

*gasp* How dare them close it! The entitled are going to be so mad.

INDEED, I WILL SHOW MY ENTITLEMENT BY SLAPPING THE NEAREST CM IN THE FACE WITH MY PRICED ENTRANCE TICKET!! (lol)

cuz the exit queue wasn't completed is what I was told Monday afternoon when I came out of BOG

So, back the they had to unload the CMS in the same loading line?

Noticing lots of issues with groups unable to decide who rides with who after they get to load. The confusion is slowing boarding and forcing trains to dispatch with many empty seats.

Tip: ONLY 2 per row, no exceptions so decide who is with who before you get to load and no last minute changes to keep things moving. The way seats are designed you cannot squeeze a little one in between.

Also, posted 90 minute standby line is actually only 60. At merge now.

I swear you should work as an "online correspondent" with your own TV crew as you report the status of the attractions at Disney.

Imagine a weather.com type website where randomly alerts are poping up. "ATTRACTION ALERT" specials with video are displayed.. to show when something is having problems, or if there is a refurb.. issues..etc.. XD

 

[cw1982]

The others got it on how the Mine Train system works. It's a way to handle odd-numbered groups without needing the space to run a dedicated Single Rider queue.

The problem with what I experienced at RnRC was that rather than grouping a party of 3 and filling them in with a Single Rider (which is how Single Rider works at all of the attractions that have it), the grouper was then asking the size of the next party in the main queue. If it was odd-numbered, they'd have the odd person out fill in the available seat with the party before. Sometimes if the next group was a small even-numbered group she'd even stick them at the back of the train to get them out of the way, hoping that the group behind *them* were an odd-number.

It was very odd, almost like she didn't want to use the Single Rider unless absolutely necessary. In fact, I think I recall seeing people who'd gotten in the Standby queue the same time we entered the Singles queue actually *pass* us near the boarding platform and ride before we did.

-Rob

Got it. Thanks for clarifying!

 

[Cesar R M]

Well, part of that is simply being a new ride, so people don't really know what to expect in terms of the seat configuration. As more people have experience with the ride, it will be less of an issue (and the CMs will also be better aware and able to quickly deal with it).

they could always put a small banner with the seat configuration in the waiting line..

 

[cw1982]

they could always put a small banner with the seat configuration in the waiting line..

This.

Plus, it's not like people don't see the ride in action as it runs. They may not get a good look at the exact structure of the seats, but they should know enough to be able to tell that two people ride in each row. This hardly seems like something that should really be holding up the line.