castlecake2.0
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Just watched California, and it was 100 times better than world. Just beautiful.
While they’re in the minority among fan communities like ours, we don’t actually have any data on what the majority of guests think.So I guess they are the minority. They liked it, they just prefer the other.
While they’re in the minority among fan communities like ours, we don’t actually have any data on what the majority of guests think.
Temporary changes and overlays are always crowd-pleasers. That Disneyland transforms its Haunted Mansion every year for Halloween and Christmas doesn’t mean people dislike the regular version.Yet Disney keeps bringing it back and selling it as a benefit. That should tell you what Disney has measured from its audience.
Sure sometimes things just get tired... and need to go. But if the film wasn't liked, it wouldn't be worth bringing back. People aren't going out of curiosity. And Disney has done it multiple times at DCA. It's not about saying the new version is 'disliked' it's saying the old version is liked enough to be excited to see it INSTEAD of the new.Temporary changes and overlays are always crowd-pleasers. That Disneyland transforms its Haunted Mansion every year for Halloween and Christmas doesn’t mean people dislike the regular version.
I didn’t say anything to the contrary. Of course the old film is liked. I’m not sure why you think I believe otherwise.But if the film wasn't liked, it wouldn't be worth bringing back. People aren't going out of curiosity. And Disney has done it multiple times at DCA. It's not about saying the new version is 'disliked' it's saying the old version is liked enough to be excited to see it INSTEAD of the new.
You talk in circles when people address the statements YOU MADE. (about a film being disliked or not).I didn’t say anything to the contrary. Of course the old film is liked. I’m not sure why you think I believe otherwise.
I meant we don’t have any data as to which film most guests prefer. That should have been clear from the post I was responding to. I have never implied, much less said, that the old film is disliked.You talk in circles when people address the statements YOU MADE. (about a film being disliked or not).
I'll go back to the start... You said "we don’t actually have any data on what the majority of guests think" -- To which I say We do.. we have Disney's actions to bring it back.. REPEATEDLY.. and not as some seasonal tradition.. and have EXPANDED where they are doing it. Disney has data on what guests think![]()
While they’re in the minority among fan communities like ours, we don’t actually have any data on what the majority of guests think.
Hopefully "Over CA" will revert to the default and "The World" will be the special show once in a while, maybe for the holidays!Yeah I expect it to be at least through the end of 2023 at the very least.
Yep! I shared his post earlier in this thread, but here it is again:IIRC I think that question came up and @lentesta said that both versions rated virtually the same among guests they have surveyed.
Pre-schoolers rated the old version as 4.5 stars (rounding to the nearest 0.5). Every other age group had it exactly the same. I'd call them even.
Yet Disney keeps bringing it back and selling it as a benefit. That should tell you what Disney has measured from it's audience.
And we have been waiting since 2003 last Holiday Hoedown for at least a new Country Bear Jamboree. I wouldn't have mind seeing Vacation Hoedown again..And that had no offensive songs at all..Temporary changes and overlays are always crowd-pleasers. That Disneyland transforms its Haunted Mansion every year for Halloween and Christmas doesn’t mean people dislike the regular version.
That may be how people answered in a survey but the reaction that I have witnessed to both CA and The World would argue otherwise. Until the very end of the run, a significant number of people in the theater would give an ovation to CA and I'd hear comments all the time about how great it was. On my rides of The World, there was, at most, a handful of people who gave a golf clap.Yep! I shared his post earlier in this thread, but here it is again:
I've lived in Florida all my life... no idea why people want Soarin' Over Florida lol
There are 3 places that are dramatic visually... but that's it. But you could definitely make a better world version
I'm just going to repost this in case anyone missed this But, Flyover America attraction is How Soarin Should really be..Almost a 10 minute ride, with smells and swoops throughout and there's only CGI until the finale..That may be how people answered in a survey but the reaction that I have witnessed to both CA and The World would argue otherwise. Until the very end of the run, a significant number of people in the theater would give an ovation to CA and I'd hear comments all the time about how great it was. On my rides of The World, there was, at most, a handful of people who gave a golf clap.
While the two versions might rate the same as standalone choices in a survey, I would be willing to bet that if you had a group of people selected to experience both back to back (having half experience CA first and half experience The World first) and then take a survey comparing the two, that CA would come out on top by a wide margin.
Agree about FL. On the world version, the issues are (aside from the rubber buildings), WAY too much CGI, the ridiculous looking CGI Taj Mahal, too much focus on made made objects and pacing that doesn't have the proper ebbs and flows in excitement matched to the score.
If they focused more on natural landscapes and did a storyboard to have it match the unaltered original score and dumped a lot of the CGI they could make a world version as good or better than the CA version.
This!! Now bring back Impressions de France. I will keep saying it until it gets heard and done lol.Just watched California, and it was 100 times better than world. Just beautiful.
Please. BATB gotta go, I can’t imagine it gets good guest scores.This!! Now bring back Impressions de France. I will keep saying it until it gets heard and done lol.
Lion king 1 1/2 is more enjoyable than that fodder..Please. BATB gotta go, I can’t imagine it gets good guest scores.
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