So, You Want to be an Imagineer: An Imagineering Competition (Season 13: Get a Clue)

spacemt354

Chili's
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This is incredibly sad. The game lost its best player.

For some reason I held out hope that a killer would be found or that some form of accountability would be shown with the votes.

But once again the person who cared the most is eliminated. Can't say I'm surprised given the game's setup, but it's very disappointing.
 

MANEATINGWREATH

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Considering the original Cinderella Castle Mystery Tour left TDL in April of 2006 (over ten years ago?!?) and has been replaced by Cinderella's Fairy Tale Hall in 2011, I'm going to assume that my version of the project takes place in an alternate universe where the Mystery Tour never left our existence in the first place...

Just to make sure I'm able to turn SOMETHING in this time around, here is my project now. Yes, I know it's early.

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In April of 2006, TDL guests were shocked to discover that the classic Cinderella Castle Mystery Tour had quickly and quietly closed, perhaps permanently. It's old marquee lay in midair by its hinges for years following, gradually fading in color and appearance as the walkthrough attraction's ornate door sat locked in a state of rot. Somewhere deep beneath Cinderella Castle lurked the animatronic remnants of The Black Cauldron's Horned King, still waiting to put a spell on visitors with his advanced animatronics...

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For nearly six years, the real estate was left untouched until, finally, in late-2012, the marquee came down and construction walls went up. Skeletons (a la The Skeleton Dance) adorned the construction walls in fabulous black-and-white, each clutching a written tabloid or bit of concept art hinting at what adventures were to follow in the future deep beneath Cinderella Castle... Vivid imagery hinted at the likes of Dr. Facilier and even Shere Khan taking residence beneath the castle, perhaps a hint at an even more villainous attraction. On April 13, 2013, The Underworld opened in place of the classic Mystery Tour, bringing new light to Disney's villains, both famous and infamous.

The Underworld

Approaching the former entrance to the Mystery Tour, we find the old marquee to have been replaced by a sign in the shape of Dr. Facilier's crooked top hat, complete with lettering written in the font of "melting green slime," a sight typical to villain-pertaining fonts. On either side of the old entrance stands a hand-carved skeleton (a statue), each holding a flickering torch while looking onward toward the cloudy horizon. As night falls, their hollowed-eyes illuminate a magma-like shade of red, a grim reminder of the horrors to come...



Upon initial entry, we find the interior of the castle to be JUST what one would expect to find inside the fantasy-delving castle; colorful tapestries, a cheerful arrangement of "A Dream is a Wish Your Heart Makes," warmly-lit torches, and even classic portraits of famous Disney protagonists, some taken directly from the original Mystery Tour; Cinderella, Pinocchio, Aurora, Snow White, and Taran. The new portraits include Belle, Ariel, Tiana, and Hercules. Meandering a short distance forward, the quaint corridor transitions into the Grand Foyer.

Notably, a mighty fireplace to rival even that of Hogwarts School of Witchcraft & Wizardry roars to the foyer's northernmost point, a magnificent painting (not to mention a realistic painting, a la Leonardo Da Vinci) depicting the likes of Mount Olympus hung proudly above it. For those with a keen eye, they may notice the menacing gargoyles crafted into the base of the fireplace, their menacing visage peering into our very souls... It is in the Foyer where we are first introduced to our host, a friendly Japanese-speaking CM with a self-given degree in Cinderella Castle's lore and history. According to our host, in the Dark Ages, the grounds of the castle were used for hexing rituals by an ancient tribe to celebrate the supernatural. It wasn't until the Royal Family overthrew the tribe and erected the castle in its place that the rituals ceased. Our host decrees that this very fireplace was once the site of many a ritual, rumored to be an actual passage into the Underworld. Before proceeding further in our tour of the castle, lightning and thunder strike, the fireplace melding into an eerie shade of green. An evil laugh rings out (all of the dialogue is presented in Japanese, but for now, I'll be typing in English)...

"Ladies and gentlemen, a tip of the hat from Dr. Facilier!"

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The iconic "Shadowman" festers among the roaring flames (via mist screen), the "spirited" silhouettes of his "friends on the other side" ominously festering around the now-darkened chamber. "Dr. Facilier! What are you doing here?" Our host timidly asks. "Just thought I'd drop-in and pay my respects to my NEW friends." "New friends?! Well, you are certainly no friend of mine!" "Haha, foolish mortal. We're all friends here in the Underworld." Suddenly, the painting of Mount Olympus morphs into a "landscape" view of the Underworld, as seen in Hercules. Hades' skull-shaped domain and the three-headed Cerberus can be seen lurking in the shadows, while thousands of souls aimlessly flow down the River Styx. "So the legends of the tribe are true," our host mumbles in disbelief. "This fireplace IS a passage to the Underworld." "My dear friend, you're looking at the last remaining descendant of that same tribe you speak of," Facilier chortles. "The land on which this castle is built is rightfully MINE." In a blinding flash, the flames of the fireplace extinguish, Facilier vanishes, and the spirits disappear in a conjoint bloodcurdling scream. Slowly, the brick panels of the fireplace part to reveal an earthy, almost Indiana Jones Adventure-like passageway beyond. Bats can be heard chirping as an underscore to inhuman screams and wails. "Very well," our host says. "I suppose we should venture forward with the tour. Stay together now! And refrain from smoking and flash photography!" As such, we meander forward and into the cavern beyond... Dr. Facilier's laughter rings out as we push forward in our intrepid steps...

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The Menagerie is our first stop in the Underworld, where the spirits of fallen beasts - mythical or otherwise - are kept locked within bone-crafted cages. A distorted rendition of "Serengeti Serenade" (iconic to the original Jungle Book) echoes throughout the grotto, often interspersed by a screeching bat or wailing ghost. Eerie green eyes peer out from the darkened corners, while our host points out the first of several villains found throughout our unnatural tour. Shere Khan and Scar make an appearance in neighboring bone-cages, Shere Khan's iconic yellow eyes following our every move, Scar simply gnawing on a bone. Shere Khan emits a low growl, almost like a possessed motorcycle. In one dark corner, Kaa's hypnotic eyes swirl in an attempt to paralyze us in our tracks, not considering our possible distraction by Shenzi, Banzai and Ed hanging from birdcages suspended from the cavernous ceiling, the three hyenas bickering with one another. Somewhere in the distance, a raven caws in a repeated screech.

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The real danger in the Menagerie comes to us in the form of Maleficent, having permanently transformed into a dragon in the afterlife...which is appropriate considering her death in Sleeping Beauty. As with the original tour, the sleeping dragon awakens with a start, frightening our host into running the opposite direction and henceforth out of the Menagerie, and right into...

The Crypt. Here we find the final resting place of several defeated villains, including elaborate, upright coffins dedicated to the likes of Jafar, the Evil Queen, the Horned King, and even Governor Ratcliffe. As we pass through, our host points out the fallen villains were defeated long ago by the forces of good but are perhaps not yet ready to be permanently put to rest. Immediately, the stone coffins begin to tremble and shake, green light emitting from within each individual tomb. Naturally, our host freaks out - again - and takes us further into the Underworld, crossing a narrow path overlooking a miniature diorama of the River Styx and Hades domain.



A spiral staircase leads us into what appears to be some sort of shrine or sanctuary... Menacing gargoyles look on from the shadows, while a stained-glass window displaying the Seven Stages of Grief (as portrayed by Renaissance-style skeletons) casts light into the chamber... The Sanctuary is the aptly-named dwelling of Claude Frollo, the villain of The Hunchback of Notre-Dame. Although Frollo himself does not make a physical appearance, his shadow is cast upon the wall, cackling wildly. Our host nervously takes us into the next locale of the tour...the dwelling spaces of Hades and the Fates who, although unseen, have recently been in the room as judging by the board game-type diagram ladden in monster-shaped figurines and a small Hercules figurine. Cerberus lurks in a dark corner of the room, his nine red eyes looking outward as all three heads lean forward with a snarl, just barely missing our heads...



The final scene is - for lack of a better description - an animatronic and three-dimensional set piece recreation of the iconic "Friends on the Other Side" sequence, minus the addition of Naveen and his assistant (what's his name?! What's his name?!). One of the world's most advanced (and expensive) animatronics creates Dr. Facilier in addition to expansive projection mapping and fog-based effects. After evading the clutches of the Doctor, we pass through a narrow corridor lined with human skeletons, all scattered and jabbed upon jagged rocks. Facilier's spritely shadow gives chase as we approach a light at the end of the tunnel... Our host bids us farewell and we depart back into Fantasyland, almost as if nothing had happened at all.

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It's not much and makes NO sense in several aspects, but it's better than me posting nothing. :D Think of this as a better version of my iconic Salacious Crumb's Giggle Gas Express attraction.

I've really been lacking in the creative strengths this season. :p The old grey MEW just ain't what he used to be.
 

TheOriginalTiki

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A killer has struck for the final time, and the last victim is....


































.....................................@IAmNotAHufflepuff..........

This means that @RMichael21 @DSquared, and @mickeyfan5534 have guaranteed Final Four spots in the semi-finals. @MANEATINGWREATH and @IAmNotAHufflepuff will now immediately enter a three day mini-challenge to determine the fourth and final slot in the semi finals. MEW, while I very much appreciate your effort with the castle walkthrough and I'll certainly review it on a future podcast, you made the mistake of assuming the final Museum of the Weird duel would be a replication of the main project for this round. Instead, I'm digging this April Fools Day gag out...For real-zies :p ;)

Final Museum of the Weird Duel: The Quest for Lemons



One of the thing Disney is known for is its wide and colorful variety of plant life found throughout each of its parks. Floral Mickey is an iconic fixture of the park and the first thing guests see when entering any of Disney's "Magic Kingdoms". There are historic trees scattered throughout Disneyland like the Swiss/Tarzan's Treehouse and the Petrified Tree. This project, the final players in the Museum of the Weird must put that all to the test. You must design the most amazing of all trees...A lemon tree. For this round, @MANEATINGWREATH and @IAmNotAHufflepuff must create a lemon tree to be planted at any given Disney park. This lemon tree must serve a thematic purpose and be tied directly into the land it is. Please include as much detail as possible about the lemon tree and surrounding area.

I'm dead serious :p ;)
Good luck Puff and MEW. This project is due Friday, September 9th at 6 PM Eastern/3 PM Pacific. Please note that the earlier time is to coincide with a scheduled podcast I'll be recording Friday with @DSquared where I will reveal the identities of the killers, how they pulled off not getting caught all season, and which of MEW or Puff gets that coveted spot in the Final Four.
 

TheOriginalTiki

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It is with a heavy heart, I have decided to resign from the competition. :(

Between school and my limited time, I just don't have the willpower anymore to work on projects at the moment.

Thank you @TheOriginalTiki for being an awesome host, and I hope to see you all, all fired up and ready to go next time round! :D

Totally understandable, Puff. Thanks for playing and I hope you had a good time this season. :)

With that, it leaves us with our final boot order heading into the semi-finals!

Pre-Jury
18th Place: @iamaninsomniac
17th Place: @disneydf
16th Place: @Flippin'Flounder
15th Place: @Angels and Disney's
14th Place: @disneyforever101396
13th Place: @Poe Dameron
12th Place: @MonorailRed
11th Place: @englanddg
10th Place: @Basketbuddy101

Jury
9th Place:
@KingOfEpicocity
8th Place: @SandyClaws
7th Place: @spacemt354
6th Place: @FigmentPigments
5th Place: @IAmNotAHufflepuff

Semi-Finalists
@DSquared
@MANEATINGWREATH
@RMichael21
@mickeyfan5534

I'll still be doing a special podcast with @DSquared around 6 PM Eastern on Friday where the killer twist will be revealed. The identities of the two remaining killers might be abundantly obvious to most people paying attention at this point, but how exactly they fooled everyone into taking the targets off their back throughout the post-merge is something that was a blindside to even me! All will be revealed ;) :p ;) :p ;)
 

TheOriginalTiki

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Everything is about to be revealed!


Immediately after the podcast is over I'll be posting the Killer Reveal in text form for those unable to immediately watch the video on Youtube. I'll also be posting the assignment for semi-finals. Please be sure to turn in the Castle Walkthrough project tonight. Over the weekend I plan on doing a review of both Team Chandler and MEW's presentations of the concept with @SandyClaws
 

TheOriginalTiki

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The killer twist has been revealed, and @RMichael21 and @mickeyfan5534 are the two culprits in addition to @MANEATINGWREATH who was outed during the first project. RM and Mickeyfan were able to slip through the post-merge game through an elaborate ruse involving a story that I had chosen new killers and using a quote from me that I actually had nothing to do with.

When asked for a confirmation on if the killer swap actually happened, all I could say was that I could neither confirm nor deny anything, and that RM and Mickeyfan's claims were designed to elicit confusion and throw people off...Something that worked INCREDIBLY well!

Ironically enough, a good 80% of the time the killer votes post-merge landed on @DSquared even though he was the one who was always leading the charge to find the killers in the first place. This makes the final four very appropriate and fitting for the theme of the season. All three original killers have survived, as well as the guy who most everyone was absolutely convinced had been a killer the whole time. In spite of the one-two punch of loosing Space and Figment back to back, I've got to admit this is a "stranger than fiction" scenario that I really love as an ultimate outcome.

Now that the killer twist has worked its course, the semi-finalists have nothing left but their own creative skills and personal devotion to get them to the coveted final project of the season. Which brings us to...
Semi Finals: Crystal Blue Creations
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This concept has been a "Bucket List" project ever since I first started watching Breaking Bad regularly during its second season. Keep in mind, at that point in the show's run the only thing anyone ever knew about it was "the dad from Malcolm in the Middle plays a drug dealer!" If you were a legit fan beyond the surface-level punchline that was Bryan Cranston running around in his underwear the first first episode, you were in a small but devoted following that would get the pleasure in later years of saying they were there from the beginning.

And that's the beauty of Breaking Bad. From its completely pulp roots where its popularity flourished on the distant fringes of pop culture, the show has went on through becoming a staple of Netflix to go on to DEFINE pop culture over the last half a decade. It's reached a level of both public awareness and MASSIVE critical acclaim that it's perhaps become known as a Citizen Kane in the television drama landscape at large, showing up regularly at the top of "Greatest TV of All Time" lists for very good reason.

Indeed, the world that Vince Gilligan and the incredibly talented team behind Breaking Bad and its equally impressive spin-off Better Call Saul have crafted something special. Something that rose through the ashes of obscurity to become a shared cultural phenomenon to an entire generation of TV watchers. With that phenomenon the show has crafted a "Universe" that the characters live it with its own style, sensibilities, and iconic motifs.

In this project, the semi-finalists must replicate that. Your goal is to create a Breaking Bad themed area for a Universal Studios park. This will come complete with an E Ticket to anchor the land, a C Ticket to round out the attraction selection, and at least one shopping and dining location. The show is set in the greater Albuquerque area of New Mexico and its surrounding borders, but the real meat of the Breaking Bad environment is in the way it's shot and composed. This is where research is a key factor. Essentially you're trying to create the essence of a real location as seen through the lens of a game-changing narrative.

You can use any and all reference points from Breaking Bad and Better Call Saul to craft your project. This is by far among the most difficult assignments of the season and will truly put to the test who REALLY is willing to put in the extra work to get the details of the source material down.

Four people enter this project, only two will enter the finals. I will be hand-picking one of the projects to move into the finals. The other selection will be made live on a podcast by my long time co-host and MASSIVE Breaking Bad fan BlueDragonFive! From there the finalists will have one last project to complete before the compiled jury of seven votes on a winner. Good luck, semi-finalists.

This project is due Monday, September 19th at 11:59 PM Eastern
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spacemt354

Chili's
Sigh...since there are no more killers, I will say (and you guys just confirmed this)

Yeah...didn't fool me, I called this:rolleyes:...when RMichael quoted Tiki without an announcement, it threw up red flags;)
I hate to be a stickler, but after TSI I think it's warranted :p

Since RM showed us Tiki's message, can we get a confirmation, from Tiki himself, and not through a message, that the killers are in fact being changed and that they aren't RM or mickeyfan anymore?

Sorry Tiki, but your strategic rep precedes you:p, and I don't put it past you to send us in one direction thinking it isn't rm and mickeyfan, only to find out later that you never changed them:eek:

It could all be an elaborate ruse, so a confirmation would be nice :D
What a mind bend!
Then after I asked for confirmation, there was major push back in denial from the killers...
Well, if I may point out why the heck would I put a purposeful target on our back? Personally, I would have just laid low like I've been trying to do for the whole season so far and try to not rock the boat as much as possible. Then, when the time was right, I would have killed someone and tried to be as discreet as possible. That was my strategy when Tiki asked me to be the killer. Let me just say, this would be the opposite of discreet. :hilarious::p

And honestly, this is exactly what Tiki wanted to happen by not telling us officially, he wanted the paranoia to kick in. :cyclops:

To add on, when Tiki invited us to be the killer at the beginning of the season, he said he would play along with whatever we wanted him to say in his podcasts. But, as a host myself, I told him no, because the host is meant to be the person who always has the straight forward facts (or sometimes the lack of them in the case of TSI ;):p). He agreed and told me that I was right and promised not to do any lying shenanigans.
It was at that point where, I didn't want to press anything because not only did I want to avoid creating a riff in the team when we had a project to complete, but also, I didn't want to just continually accuse people of lying. I basically stayed out of the Trophy Room PMs from then on.

For the future - I think hosts should be completely hands off and excluded entirely from these procedures. Allowing them to insert your username into a fake quote is intervening with the game too much, I feel. But nevertheless, a very devious and intelligent game move.
 

TheOriginalTiki

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Sigh...since there is no more killers, I will say (and you guys just confirmed this)

Yeah...didn't fool me, I called this:rolleyes:...when RMichael quoted Tiki without an announcement, it threw up red flags;)


Then after I asked for confirmation, there was major push back in denial from the killers...

It was at that point where, I didn't want to press anything because not only did I want to avoid creating a riff in the team when we had a project to complete, but also, I didn't want to just continually accuse people of lying. I basically stayed out of the Trophy Room PMs from then on.

For the future - I think hosts should be completely hands off and excluded entirely from these procedures. Allowing them to insert your username into a fake quote is intervening with the game too much, I feel. But nevertheless, a very devious and intelligent game move.

It was certainly unconventional and something I never considered to be a possibility when planning the season. I've got to admit it was a bit of a tough call for me to allow it, but ultimately I decided to just NOT announce the "killer swap" anywhere else on the boards or podcast and simply act on my end as if it doesn't exist. I was hoping that would create doubt within the players of the validity of RM and Mickeyfan's claims.

Had I known how over-powered the Killer Twist would become in later rounds I honestly might have been more upfront about rather or not it was real. I think in retrospect a lot of great things came out of this season. As I said in the podcast, @FigmentPigments was the LONG time pick by Jokers and I to be the winner...so as much as I hated to see her go last round her departure completely opened the door to a very unpredictable end-game. The fact that were left with the three original killers plus the person everyone thought was a killer is very satisfying from a narrative point of view, if not from a black and white "best creative players" point of view. At any rate, I think the race to the finish line is wide open and anyone could take it at this point.

Make no mistake, plans are in place for SYWTBAI Season 14 to be MUCH more simple and streamlined and contain virtually no strategy outside of what already exists within the Project Leader/PoMVP format. I'll be revealing the theme and title of the season at the end of the final Season 13 podcast.
 

spacemt354

Chili's
It was certainly unconventional and something I never considered to be a possibility when planning the season. I've got to admit it was a bit of a tough call for me to allow it, but ultimately I decided to just NOT announce the "killer swap" anywhere else on the boards or podcast and simply act on my end as if it doesn't exist. I was hoping that would create doubt within the players of the validity of RM and Mickeyfan's claims.

Had I known how over-powered the Killer Twist would become in later rounds I honestly might have been more upfront about rather or not it was real. I think in retrospect a lot of great things came out of this season. As I said in the podcast, @FigmentPigments was the LONG time pick by Jokers and I to be the winner...so as much as I hated to see her go last round her departure completely opened the door to a very unpredictable end-game. The fact that were left with the three original killers plus the person everyone thought was a killer is very satisfying from a narrative point of view, if not from a black and white "best creative players" point of view. At any rate, I think the race to the finish line is wide open and anyone could take it at this point.

Make no mistake, plans are in place for SYWTBAI Season 14 to be MUCH more simple and streamlined and contain virtually no strategy outside of what already exists within the Project Leader/PoMVP format. I'll be revealing the theme and title of the season at the end of the final Season 13 podcast.
Me personally, I wouldn't have allowed it. Ironically you stepping in to "not" confirm nor deny it, actually assured me that it was true rather than create doubt. If you didn't respond at all I would have known for sure to go with my gut and that it was fake.

But we can Monday Morning Quarterback it forever - it's best just to learn from it and move forward.
 

MANEATINGWREATH

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Well, I GUARANTEE that with this project I certainly won't be making it into the Finals... Lol. I'm always willing to put in the extra work, but as in the case with my own personal projects at the moment (i.e. my unfinished dream resort), I just haven't had the right amount of time these past two months to give this season my 100%, which really sucks. There are times where I'd love nothing more than to contribute, contribute, contribute without stopping. Would it be more fair for someone more committed like Figments or Space to have my spot? Absolutely. But, it is what it is and I'm grateful to have made it this far.

There is no way that I will be able to whip something extraordinary or considered passable to a hardcore Breaking Bad fan or Universal Studios fan for this project. Not only do I know practically nothing about Breaking Bad, I don't particularly have the time to research enough content to fulfill the assignment's needs. :p However, this is not my resignation from the season. Since I've made it this far, I'm still going to give it a shot. May the best two semi-finalists win! I've had a great time playing this season and I look forward to seeing the end result. To me, I'm totally fine with coming in 3rd or 4th place at this point. It's been a great ride.

Part of the joy of SYWTBAI comes from the experience. Yes, times have indeed changed since the game's beginnings on Visions Fantastic, but the concept and spirit is still there. I'm so looking forward to seeing the progress of the game as it stretches into its future on YouTube and WDWMagic.
 

RMichael21

Well-Known Member
Sigh...since there are no more killers, I will say (and you guys just confirmed this)

Yeah...didn't fool me, I called this:rolleyes:...when RMichael quoted Tiki without an announcement, it threw up red flags;)


Then after I asked for confirmation, there was major push back in denial from the killers...

It was at that point where, I didn't want to press anything because not only did I want to avoid creating a riff in the team when we had a project to complete, but also, I didn't want to just continually accuse people of lying. I basically stayed out of the Trophy Room PMs from then on.

For the future - I think hosts should be completely hands off and excluded entirely from these procedures. Allowing them to insert your username into a fake quote is intervening with the game too much, I feel. But nevertheless, a very devious and intelligent game move.
Coming up with this took some thought, may I might add. You'll hear more of the strings mickeyfan and I pulled should I get to the finals. ;):cool::p
 

mickeyfan5534

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Wow. I never expected to make semis here and then my Achilles Heel got hit. I never got into Breaking Bad and it's gonna hurt me in the strangest of ways. On the killer twist, all I can say is that we played the long game and we won as a result. I'm very glad that I went with the plot as it was fun leading everyone on as we went through the projects.
 

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