So why weren't there many strollers back in the day?

disneyfireman

disneyfireman

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larryz said:
Well, I think the whole "Europe" thing is way overblown... in many respects. "Europe" as a continent is entirely arbitrary, and an anachronistic vestige of a time when Europe was the cultural and population center of the Earth.
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I know not that long ago...when i was in europe in the Air force...English were English not european...Scottish..Irish..German same..Austrian same..Folks from other nations are proud of their culture. I think the european union hurt that. I think in 10 years...all euro nations will take them selves out of it. (European union) I think its best that way.
 
Gitson Shiggles

Gitson Shiggles

There was me, that is Mickey, and my three droogs
Incomudro said:
It's not a weak argument.
Wheeled rolling devices should only be allowed in if they carry human cargo.
Simple as that.
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Every single one of the Keenz-style wagons, that wasn’t parked, was being pushed with at least one child (often two) inside.

ABQ said:
Especially these monstrosities which are meant to be pulled behind, not pushed, and therefore you have no idea what's going on behind you. They are not a substitute for a stroller.
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Who determines how something ought to be used? Sometimes, someone gets an idea and makes a good buck off it. It may last, or it may be a fad. It’s not as if it will become fashionable to wear pants on our heads, and we’ll all end up owning twice as many pants, right? :cautious:
 
Incomudro

Incomudro

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Gitson Shiggles said:
Every single one of the Keenz-style wagons, that wasn’t parked, was being pushed with at least one child (often two) inside.



Who determines how something ought to be used? Sometimes, someone gets an idea and makes a good buck off it. It may last, or it may be a fad. It’s not as if it will become fashionable to wear pants on our heads, and we’ll all end up owning twice as many pants, right? :cautious:
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They're not designed as child carriers.
If you think these things are ok in the parks - you are part of the problem.
 
Janir

Janir

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Gitson Shiggles said:
Every single one of the Keenz-style wagons, that wasn’t parked, was being pushed with at least one child (often two) inside.
Who determines how something ought to be used? Sometimes, someone gets an idea and makes a good buck off it. It may last, or it may be a fad. It’s not as if it will become fashionable to wear pants on our heads, and we’ll all end up owning twice as many pants, right? :cautious:
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Ok not having kids and not knowing what a Keenz-style wagon was I searched for it.
First link---> https://www.littlebabygear.com/stroller-wagon-big-kid/
"Are you going to Disneyland and looking for a double stroller alternative that is allowed there? Or maybe your child has already outgrown your stroller and you need something bigger for daily use and trips? Stroller wagon combo may be just what you need! "
 
Gitson Shiggles

Gitson Shiggles

There was me, that is Mickey, and my three droogs
CaptainAmerica said:
No they do not.
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Well, if seeing it with my very eyes weren’t enough.

Keen 7s:
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Typical tandem stroller that was seen:
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Goofyernmost

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disneyfireman said:
I know not that long ago...when i was in europe in the Air force...English were English not european...Scottish..Irish..German same..Austrian same..Folks from other nations are proud of their culture. I think the european union hurt that. I think in 10 years...all euro nations will take them selves out of it. (European union) I think its best that way.
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I think that there are a number of things that need some attention with the EU, but, people losing the dedication to their own country is pretty far away from reality. Italians will always want to be Italians, Spanish will always be Spanish. French will always want to be French and so on. That will not affect them because they are proud of their individual countries. In this country our heritage is really just where or heritage comes from. We are all one country under one government and we hang on the the identity we have with whatever state we are from. Over two hundred years has not stopped that. Probably in some cases it would be better, but, it hasn't happened and it isn't ever going too.
 
FettFan

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Tick Tock said:
I know this isn't the popular opinion around here, especially in today's "everything must be PC" world that we live in... But in many cases, shock collars can be the most effective method for child control and safety. They take up far less space than strollers, thus relieving the parks and other guests of the cluttered-up walkways which have been such a hindrance in recent years. Just a simple strap goes around the neck, one parent is all that's required to operate the small remote control, and presto! Better behavior and less obstructed sidewalks.

For those claiming such methods are deemed "inappropriate" or "inhumane", :rolleyes: consider that some of the most affordable collars contain electrodes with as low as 400 volts, which are perfectly suitable for the smallest of offspring. You can adjust to higher voltage levels for children as they age, or for traveling with elderly family members who can sometimes become ornery.

As a child, for my first visit to WDW back in the early 80's, I used anywhere from a 1,500 to a 3,000 voltage collar depending on my attitude and park shenanigans. Other guests never became aware of what was actually going on, as many simply assumed I was a normal kid like any other, who'd just have sudden break-dancing episodes for a few seconds periodically.

Disney could even capitalize on this method of child correction by selling themed shock collars at various gift shops throughout the parks. Have different characters and whatnot on the collars / parental remotes for guests to collect over the years.

Forgot to mention: From past experience, I would strongly advise against using these collars AT ALL when the recipient(s) of the shock is dining or partaking in any sort of beverage. It creates quite the mess.
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"Magic Collars"! They can also have a GPS locator inside them, so that if they child gets lost, the parent can easily locate them with a smartphone app.
ALSO... by using "Wireless Fence" technology, the child will also be unable to sneak into restricted areas.
 
FettFan

FettFan

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Fable McCloud said:
I'm not a fan of seeing most of the area around the Peoplemover become a stroller explosion. When we went for an after hours event, it was so bizarre because it was like a barren wasteland compared to earlier in the day.

That and the area near the gates to the Haunted Mansion. Nothing say creepy like a stroller army lol.
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When there is no more room in Hell, the dead will stroll the Earth.
 
Walt Disney1955

Walt Disney1955

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This is how we did it on trips to the Magic Kingdom in back to back years. We went in 2017 with our three kids aged 1-6 at the time. We had a stroller for the youngest one. A year later, our kids are 2-7 years old. We took the two youngest to the Magic Kingdom and then took turns with our oldest at different parks (Epcot, Universal). So just one day at Magic Kingdom with a 2.5, 4.5 and 7 year old. You know what? No strollers! None. We thought of renting one but we didn't. Our kids lasted the whole day until the youngest two crashed after the fireworks. Carrying them to the ferry and waiting for a dog's age to get on wasn't fun but honestly the rest of the day was basically liberating. Our kids walked. If our youngest was tired, and she wasn't much, we carried her. Half of the time you are sitting down with shows and rides anyways. So yeah, our stroller days are gone, we don't even own one anymore.
 
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MattFrees71 said:
In my humble opinion, I wouldn't take kids who are too young to comfortably walk. That's how my parents did it with me and my siblings- with my first visit at 5 years old. They just recognized it wasn't worth all the strollers/diapers and the fact that we wouldn't appreciate it as fully. I have been amazed at the number of infants I've seen at WDW in the parks lately. I've been watching vintage film (90's and before) of WDW on Youtube, and one thing I have noticed and many people in the comments point out is the lack of strollers and the subsequently less congested pathways- I do wish it was still like that.
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It might be more difficult to make that decision when you might be forcing older siblings to wait until they are teenagers before ever visiting the parks. There is a 10-year age spread among my five children. If I waited until the youngest could reasonably handle that much walking, my oldest would not visit until she is 13.
 

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