So what changes will we see at DHS GE based on DL GE?

bclane

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Another big problem was letting people reserve without having tickets. It should have been the other way around. Anyone who had internet access could reserve a spot or many spots without having any idea of whether they would really be able to go.
Definitely agree. I think they should have figured out a way to do what they do with dinner reservation cancellations. If they would have charged even a minimal fee (like $10 per person) for no shows, only people who were serious would have signed up (for the most part anyway). I know the logistics of that would have made check-in even more of a nightmare, but if the 30% no show rate is accurate, that's a lot.
 

bclane

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Which is why they should have made different versions including non vegan ones. Punish the ones who choose to go vegan, not the other way around.
I'm not a vegan (I am a lacto-ovo vegetarian), but I do try to limit my dairy consumption for various reasons and so I'm glad they have a vegan option. But why is that the only option? I just feel it was a bad business decision to not have a full dairy version of the stuff as well. It makes no sense to me why they wouldn't offer it.
 

ar81

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With no shows and the wait time for ride being 25 mins or so this can not be good news. Don’t we usually rate a new rides success based off the demand and ride wait time. Pandora and Potter were successes with people waiting 3 hours plus to ride them with glowing reviews. All I have seen is a lot of sugar coated reviews kind of meh. Thus can’t be good. Unless I’m interpreting this all wrong and the reservation system changes the whole outlook. Don’t know how low attendance figure can be perceived as a good thing.
 

ar81

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Bingo.

You can’t conpare the Potter or Pandora openings to GE because the reservation system totally changes the game. June 24th will demonstrate the true demand of the land.
Valid point. But I have some concern that the reviews haven’t been overwhelmingly positive especially to the food offerings and blue/green milk. Even the ride is getting more just so so reviews than I expected. I don’t know I guess my expectations were too high.
 

nol_dur

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With no shows and the wait time for ride being 25 mins or so this can not be good news. Don’t we usually rate a new rides success based off the demand and ride wait time. Pandora and Potter were successes with people waiting 3 hours plus to ride them with glowing reviews. All I have seen is a lot of sugar coated reviews kind of meh. Thus can’t be good. Unless I’m interpreting this all wrong and the reservation system changes the whole outlook. Don’t know how low attendance figure can be perceived as a good thing.
Yes both Pandora and Potter had lines with people waiting 3 hours to ride them but both didn't have the reservation system to limit the amount of guest going in. We will see the true extent of how many people are willing to wait in a line for a Star Wars ride in Florida if they don’t bring a reservation system there to.
 

Dunston

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What were they thinking with the Cantina?? Hopefully it won't be as bad in Orlando because there are plenty of other places to buy alcoholic beverages in Studios.
 

TP2000

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They really limited the amount of people in. There were no more than 2000 people in my 8am group.

CM's on another board said they had 4,000 spots per reservation window, but with the highest no-show rates of 40% or more for the first and last windows of each day. So 2,000 or so aligns with what you experienced at your 8am group.

Even the afternoon windows are light with 30% no-shows. All that said, it allows for some really nice experiences aside from the cramped little Cantina. This type of park environment and light crowds allows this type of thing to happen, from a couple days ago....



None of that could have happened if the land was packed with people and strollers and electric scooters and extended Standby queues.
 

Janir

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Ok, but disney handles million things that need to be refrigerated and specifically to the same places that serve this drinks. It's not like they are buying a sub zero fridge just to hold their milk. They have huge walk ins.
Yeah, but not in SWGE area. And they have refrigeration but that still and extra cost for inventory storage effectively. Storing 30 cases of shelf stable product beats 30 cases of refrigerated space they now need to accommodate for. Product sitting on a shelf still costs money just to sit. Sitting on a refrigerated shelf costs more to now have to run the refrigeration and its displaces something else. So make a product that doesn't require refrigeration and only end point cooling at best and logistics becomes simpler.
Storage space on a room temp shelve is still much cheaper than a refrigerated shelf. And it won't expire as quickly.
 

drod1985

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To be fair, the mixed reaction to the two milk flavors, feedback on the menu, etc. can very well influence how GE at WDW launches compared to DL. It probably won't, but it can.

We're more likely to see differences in how Savi's or Oga's handle capacity and reservations.
 

bclane

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To be fair, the mixed reaction to the two milk flavors, feedback on the menu, etc. can very well influence how GE at WDW launches compared to DL. It probably won't, but it can.

We're more likely to see differences in how Savi's or Oga's handle capacity and reservations.
You're probably right about Savi's and/or Oga's. That's definitely more likely than my pie in the sky dream adjustment which would be a complete redesign of the SR ride to implement top and bottom gunner positions and proper pilot/co-pilot controls.
 

drod1985

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You're probably right about Savi's and/or Oga's. That's definitely more likely than my pie in the sky dream adjustment which would be a complete redesign of the SR ride to implement top and bottom gunner positions and proper pilot/co-pilot controls.

What exactly are the proper pilot/co-pilot controls? Would it just be taking turns? IIRC both seats have the same steering rig. And it’s obviously possible to pilot the Falcon solo...(pun definitely intended)
 
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bclane

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What exactly are the proper pilot/co-pilot controls? Would it just be taking turns? IIRC both seats have the same steering rig. And it’s obviousoy possible to pilot the Falcon solo...(pun definitely intended)
I would say either way is fine with me. You could take turns...so that both pilots have full control of steering for a period of time (maybe they switch after something in story damages the controls of one pilot forcing the other pilot to take over ). Or they could just make the left side (Hans chair) the actual pilot and the right side would be given other tasks to do (that have nothing to do with steering the ship). Either of those options would be better imo but i’m still incredibly excited to ride it even the way it is now.

Edit: I originally typed my post as I was running out the door (very late to an appointment) this morning and just got home and saw what a mess it was. lol! Apologies to anyone who tried to understand my original nonsense.
 
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DeletedAccount55555

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People seem to be staying away from Disneyland in droves since the opening of GE. On our wait-time based scale of 1 to 10, DLR has been a '1' every day, and DCA has averaged 1.5.

I suspect this is because of the reservation system - locals who know they can't get in to GE, are staying home.

There's some evidence that Disney is scrambling to address this. PR started reaching out to travel writers last week, pitching article ideas for things like the new brunch at Lamplight Lounge. And we've already seen relaxation of the guest reservation rules for GE.

All of this makes me think it's less likely that WDW will see a pre-opening reservation system. A virtual queue may be more likely.

Y'all laughed at me when I suggested months ago that people without reservations would avoid Disneyland.

Yet I was able to hit 24 attractions on a Saturday (and that was with my 4-hour GE reservation). They even let me ride Splash Mountain twice without waiting again.
 

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