So my stand against WDW has begun

[captainkidd]

Well, yes and no. We're still going in July and January since we have AP's that we already paid for months ago. However, both trips we're renting points from a DVC member. I also cancelled our trip next August entirely.

I did a lot of reading on these forums last night about the current state of things at DLR versus WDW. Having never been to DLR (first time next summer), I can't speak for those. However, I can speak about the state of WDW. As anyone else here, I love WDW, however, I can't continue to ignore the obvious problems. I liken it to having to shut off a 20 something year old child who keeps asking you for money. If you don't stop giving it to them, they'll never learn, no matter how much you love them.

It isn't the price increases that is driving my decision. It's the lack of improvement I'm seeing at the resort as a whole.

-Yeti, still broken.
-Countless effects on Splash Mountain not working.
-No new E-ticket attractions in 5+ years.
-Disregard for simple maintenance issues at the GF (lightbulbs on Narcooses's.)
-Horrible video condition of Soarin'.
-Shared buses at resorts that charge over $400 per night.
-Lack of action regarding rude visitors (flash photography, smokers.)
-Closing of a classic attraction, simply to add another meet and greet.

These are just a few that I can think of off the top of my head. Disney's utter indifference towards it's "Crown Jewel" has simply left me cold, bitter, and no longer wishing to spend any more money on their park tickets or resorts. Little good it may do, but I intend on sending Disney a letter stating all these reasons and more. Let's just hope that others will follow suit and finally, we'll all get the WDW that once was and we all deserve.

 

[DisneyDebNJ]

I would agree with you except for the fact that the original post (as well as most of his subsequent posts) make no sense. I agree with the others who feel like he is extremely contradictory.

Understand but it's his right to voice his opinions. Like I voice mine, dang it, I want a cheaper stay at the Poly and longer EMHs!!!!

 

[captainkidd]

I would agree with you except for the fact that the original post (as well as most of his subsequent posts) make no sense. I agree with the others who feel like he is extremely contradictory.

I'll try, once again, to sum it up.

I love Disney World.
I have already paid for my next 2 trips.
I'm very disappointed with many of the things occurring, and not occurring, at WDW.
I still love WDW, in spite of these things.
I am going to take a year off from going and intend on letting them know why.

That's all.

 

[rufio]

I'll try, once again, to sum it up.

I love Disney World.
I have already paid for my next 2 trips.
I'm very disappointed with many of the things occurring, and not occurring, at WDW.
I still love WDW, in spite of these things.
I am going to take a year off from going and intend on letting them know why.

That's all.

But...

A) You titled this post "So my stand against WDW has begun," implying that you were, in fact, taking a stand against Disney World. This does not comply with your taking 3 more trips to the World before you actually do anything differently. Even if you have already purchased tickets, you will still be spending money there on food and merchandise, correct? So really, unless you're going to go there and not spend a penny, it really isn't making a stand at all. That would require you not going.

B) WDW couldn't care less if you miss a trip. They have plenty of others (like me) going in your place. Like someone already stated, you'll be receiving an auto "we're sorry you're upset" response from Disney. Your skipping one trip really doesn't matter. If you were really trying to "make a stand" on principle you would refuse to go altogether.

 

[captainkidd]

But...

A) You titled this post "So my stand against WDW has begun," implying that you were, in fact, taking a stand against Disney World. This does not comply with your taking 3 more trips to the World before you actually do anything differently. Even if you have already purchased tickets, you will still be spending money there on food and merchandise, correct? So really, unless you're going to go there and not spend a penny, it really isn't making a stand at all. That would require you not going.

B) WDW couldn't care less if you miss a trip. They have plenty of others (like me) going in your place. Like someone already stated, you'll be receiving an auto "we're sorry you're upset" response from Disney. Your skipping one trip really doesn't matter. If you were really trying to "make a stand" on principle you would refuse to go altogether.

If I could edit my thread title, I would. As I said in my first post "Well, sort of." I know my not going isn't going to do anything. I'm just stating why I'm skipping a year. So maybe "taking a stand" wasn't the best choice of words. But again, no thread title edit.

As for the 3 trips, one of those is to Disneyland. Having never been there, I have nothing bad to say about it. I've only read good things.

Trust me, I could easily start a boring thread about all the wonderful things I love about WDW, and they would far outweigh the negative things. And maybe had I not been so many times and experienced years of perfection, I would. Like I said earlier, it's a lot easier to point out when something has slipped from prominence.

 

[DisneyDebNJ]

bottom line folks, it's all good.

 

[rufio]

If I could edit my thread title, I would. As I said in my first post "Well, sort of." I know my not going isn't going to do anything. I'm just stating why I'm skipping a year. So maybe "taking a stand" wasn't the best choice of words. But again, no thread title edit.

Yes, a more appropriate title would have been, "So I'm taking a year off of Disney after three more trips because they upset me."

 

[captainkidd]

Yes, a more appropriate title would have been, "So I'm taking a year off of Disney after three more trips because they upset me."

2 more trips. If you have a problem with the thread title, PM the Mods and ask them to change it to what you typed above. Fine with me.

 

[Californian Elitist]

Seems like people are upset because everyday, more and more people state they won't be going to WDW as much or at all anymore. Its losing its "magic" and it's not the same for a lot of people. Why do others care so much?

 

[rufio]

2 more trips. If you have a problem with the thread title, PM the Mods and ask them to change it to what you typed above. Fine with me.

lol! No problems here, just thought I'd help take some of this heat.

 

[alawrence]

Okay DisneyDebNJ

Let me sum up the last post in Atlantic City Terms.

Not being disrespectful at all, but you live in Atlantic City, and it is a gambling mecca.

I love to gamble.
I still have $10,000 in my gambling fund.
I am very disappointed with the casinos, and the things occurring, and not occurring in the casinos.
In spite of these things, I still love gambling.
In am going to take a year off from gambling and intend on letting them know why. (As soon as I have lost my final $10,000 at the casino.)

Thats all.

Do you see how that does not make sense?

Like stated above, this is not the only thread that has been started that ends up in the same situation. I am a DVC member, so I read the DVC threads often. There have been many... many threads there that made the same gripe over and over, and were brought up again and again by the same member. As there has been with threads about light bulb counters, yeti observers, this didn't work right, that doesn't look right or do what it is supposes to do threads. This has nothing to do with the American Revolution or the Bill Of Rights. It just contradicts itself.

 

[DisneyDebNJ]

Seems like people are upset because everyday, more and more people state they won't be going to WDW as much or at all anymore. Its losing its "magic" and it's not the same for a lot of people. Why do others care so much?

In my opinion, nothing makes me feel as if Disney is losing its magic, but I do truly feel, that everyone has the right to say how they feel.

 

[Computer Magic]

Trust me, I could easily start a boring thread about all the wonderful things I love about WDW, and they would far outweigh the negative things. And maybe had I not been so many times and experienced years of perfection, I would. Like I said earlier, it's a lot easier to point out when something has slipped from prominence.

More and more people are taking time away from WDW. I have been one of them Two years and going strong lol. I trutly wish this wasn't the case because I have so many wonderful memories, but the last trip was it for me. I can't pay all that money and not come away feeling satified.

Good Luck

 

[captainkidd]

Okay DisneyDebNJ

Let me sum up the last post in Atlantic City Terms.

Not being disrespectful at all, but you live in Atlantic City, and it is a gambling mecca.

I love to gamble.
I still have $10,000 in my gambling fund.
I am very disappointed with the casinos, and the things occurring, and not occurring in the casinos.
In spite of these things, I still love gambling.
In am going to take a year off from gambling and intend on letting them know why. (As soon as I have lost my final $10,000 at the casino.)

Thats all.

Do you see how that does not make sense?

That's not the same thing. I can't get my money back on airfare or park passes, and even if I could get the money back for the DVC points I rented, I wouldn't do that to the owner. Not with 3 weeks to go before the trip.

I don't know how many times I need to say it, or even why it bares repeating. I am disappointed with several things at WDW, but I do still love the place. It IS possible to love something and have issues with it. But if you want to continue to beat the dead horse of my poorly worded thread title, go for it.

 

[rufio]

That's not the same thing. I can't get my money back on airfare or park passes, and even if I could get the money back for the DVC points I rented, I wouldn't do that to the owner. Not with 3 weeks to go before the trip.

I don't know how many times I need to say it, or even why it bares repeating. I am disappointed with several things at WDW, but I do still love the place. It IS possible to love something and have issues with it. But if you want to continue to beat the dead horse of my poorly worded thread title, go for it.

It actually does seem like the same thing. You see, it isn't just the title, it's the whole thread, and none of it makes sense. At least, until people started pointing out how it made no sense. Then you made it make a little more sense. But overall, it doesn't make sense. Make sense?

 

[Californian Elitist]

In my opinion, nothing makes me feel as if Disney is losing its magic, but I do truly feel, that everyone has the right to say how they feel.

Oh for sure. I agree, everyone has the right to say how they feel, which is why I don't understand why everyone is being rude.

Coming from a Disneylander, if TDA/management decided to stop caring and refused to fix Harold if he were ever to go down, refused to replace lightbulbs, refused to fix broken animatronics on Splash, etc., I'd be ed and I'd definitely feel Disneyland would be losing a bit of its "magic" and appeal because Walt Disney himself took pride in the upkeep of Disneyland, just like the Disneylanders do now. He said it himself, Disneyland would not be like other places. It would be clean and well kept. Disneyland is in fact clean and well kept, so I have nothing to complain about. That's why I understand where kidd is coming from. I don't want to see broken lights, animatronics, and a broken yeti when I'm at Disneyland/WDW. Disney is supposed to be better than that.

 

[wannab@dis]

Seems like people are upset because everyday, more and more people state they won't be going to WDW as much or at all anymore. Its losing its "magic" and it's not the same for a lot of people. Why do others care so much?

Who are all those people? Attendance is still up over last year so it must not be that many upset guests. Do you really think you should be making observations about WDW losing magic if you've never been?

 

[captainkidd]

It actually does seem like the same thing. You see, it isn't just the title, it's the whole thread, and none of it makes sense. At least, until people started pointing out how it made no sense. Then you made it make a little more sense. But overall, it doesn't make sense. Make sense?

No.

I think it makes perfect sense. I've explained why many times. It just doesn't make sense to the people that refuse to acknowledge WDW has any problems.

1.I've already paid for my next 2 trips. Can't get the money back. Even if I could, I wouldn't cancel. I'm looking forward to going. I just think some time away from the place might do me some good. And with any luck, in that time away, they'll make improvements where they're needed.
2.After those trips, I'm taking a year off, which for me, constitutes about 3 trips.

 

[DisneyDebNJ]

Okay DisneyDebNJ

Let me sum up the last post in Atlantic City Terms.

Not being disrespectful at all, but you live in Atlantic City, and it is a gambling mecca.

I love to gamble.
I still have $10,000 in my gambling fund.
I am very disappointed with the casinos, and the things occurring, and not occurring in the casinos.
In spite of these things, I still love gambling.
In am going to take a year off from gambling and intend on letting them know why. (As soon as I have lost my final $10,000 at the casino.)

Thats all.

Do you see how that does not make sense?

Like stated above, this is not the only thread that has been started that ends up in the same situation. I am a DVC member, so I read the DVC threads often. There have been many... many threads there that made the same gripe over and over, and were brought up again and again by the same member. As there has been with threads about light bulb counters, yeti observers, this didn't work right, that doesn't look right or do what it is supposes to do threads. This has nothing to do with the American Revolution or the Bill Of Rights. It just contradicts itself.

Firstly, let me make this clear ... no need for Atlantic City terms, Im from North Jersey . secondly, regardless of a posters feelings, everyone has the right to say how they feel. And YES I do understand differences of opinions (I have a degree in psychology) but it's just differences in opinion, something this great land is based on. (Not to mention my DH is one of those hated Homeland Security officers that make sure everyone arrives safely to their destination) I see how it ALL makes sense (thank you for pointing that out) however, all I am saying, pro or con, everyone has the right to speak their opinion, yeah or ney, the personal attacks to one's character, is hitting below the belt, especially regarding a vacation destination. Do you see how that makes sense??

 

[captainkidd]

Who are all those people? Attendance is still up over last year so it must not be that many upset guests. Do you really think you should be making observations about WDW losing magic if you've never been?

How does that makes one person's feeling any less valid though?

 

[alawrence]

That's not the same thing. I can't get my money back on airfare or park passes.

I don't know how many times I need to say it, or even why it bares repeating. I am disappointed with several things at WDW, but I do still love the place. It IS possible to love something and have issues with it. But if you want to continue to beat the dead horse of my poorly worded thread title, go for it.

To be completely honest, you can not like or like Disney all you want. I just originally posted a fake note to WDW with your name on it, and caught just as much doo doo for it as you are right now. My sole intent was solely to say that your comments did not make sense, and they contradicted themselves. That is it. All of the rest of the arguing has been with other people. Not even you. I was called "Dissrespectful" and "Over The Line". My initial comment was made quoting another posters comment, and giving an example of a letter that would contradict itself. That is all.

I know you love Disney, and are disappointed. That is fine. If you never miss a trip and continue visiting, great. If you never step foot on Disney property again... great. That is your choice. You are a huge WDW fan, I know this. I am too. You have been more times than I have. I know you love the place, and wish everything was roses. But it isn't, and it never will be perfect. There will always be something wrong, or broken.

But, with all of that being said, this site is called WDWMagic, not WDWcomplainabouteverythingthatisnotMagic.