Snack price increases?

[21stamps]

Let's have a one sided discussion. Consisting of bashing Disney and no opposing views of why it isn't actually ALL that horrible.

That would be satisfying.

Does anyone not think it's a problem that someone could read so much negativity and potentially allow it to influence if they go to WDW or not? If you go by a few of these posters one would think it is the UNhappiest Place on Earth. That just isn't true.

 

[Hakunamatata]

Let's have a one sided discussion. Consisting of bashing Disney and no opposing views of why it isn't actually ALL that horrible.

That would be satisfying.

Does anyone not think it's a problem that someone could read so much negativity and potentially allow it to influence if they go to WDW or not? If you go by a few of these posters one would think it is the UNhappiest Place on Earth. That just isn't true.

Lets not forget the "we dont like it because we love it" line....

 

[SorcererMC]

The cost of said pretzel to the entity turning around and selling it is of no real validity to how much the demand value is.

A consumer will determine their value proposition according to the retail mark-up they are willing to pay...eg, does a soft pretzel cost $6 in your local grocery store? Or can one purchase an entire box of soft pretzels? If I make my own pretzel dough (eg in a villa kitchen) and shape it like Mickey, would that cost me $6? That is why people balk at the price...they can roughly estimate the true cost relative to what they are paying, and decide if the price for quality is worth it to them, to eat it in-park or not.

(Personally, in my family we have 'vacation rules' where the normal calculus does not apply, and one is allowed to make an exception for a 'splurge' on an item they really want, within reason of course/ budgeting for impulse add-ons like snacks and souvenirs.)

 

[21stamps]

A consumer will determine their value proposition according to the retail mark-up they are willing to pay...eg, does a soft pretzel cost $6 in your local grocery store? Or can one purchase an entire box of soft pretzels? If I make my own pretzel dough (eg in a villa kitchen) and shape it like Mickey, would that cost me $6? That is why people balk at the price...they can roughly estimate the true cost relative to what they are paying, and decide if the price for quality is worth it to them, to eat it in-park or not.

(Personally, in my family we have 'vacation rules' where the normal calculus does not apply, and one is allowed to make an exception for a 'splurge' on an item they really want, within reason of course/ budgeting for impulse add-ons like snacks and souvenirs.)

Yes, but when at a theme park, amusement park, sporting event, or any other entertainment venue, if you didn't bring it with you then you don't have access to that item from a grocery store or your own kitchen. That's why people pay it, and that's why said places charge what they do.

 

[21stamps]

It's all in the presentation, Toots. And quite frankly, yours stinks. You argue with absolutely everybody about everything. And then ... you edit.

Actually, I would say it's about 4 people...and we're constantly debating over the same 4 things-- Is Disney horrible? Is Disney worth going? Do upcharge events benefit some? and last but not least- Why do you still go if you despise it so much?

 

[SorcererMC]

Yes, but when at a theme park, amusement park, sporting event, or any other entertainment venue, if you didn't bring it with you then you don't have access to that item from a grocery store or your own kitchen. That's why people pay it, and that's why said places charge what they do.

I'm not sure what to say other than that 'the Disney bubble' is not real and one can venture out to source what they need...from grocery stores or stay somewhere with access to those things, on-property or otherwise.

 

[donaldtoo]

JYHO

 

[NYwdwfan]

Actually, I would say it's about 4 people...and we're constantly debating over the same 4 things-- Is Disney horrible? Is Disney worth going? Do upcharge events benefit some? and last but not least- Why do you still go if you despise it so much?

Still not seeing the one constant in the equation?

 

[21stamps]

I'm not sure what to say other than that 'the Disney bubble' is not real and one can venture out to source what they need...from grocery stores or stay somewhere with access to those things.

I agree. Which is why I bring my own water into parks. I also bring milk for my son..I think I may have mentioned this earlier in the thread.. but this trip I accidentally packed it in our carry on and it got thrown away obviously. I was quite mad at myself over that one. We bring a few cereals and Zone Bars as well.

When I go to an amusement park I typically pack our lunch or hit up Jimmy Johns or Subway first if we're coming from somewhere other than home.

I think prices at all of these places are ridiculous. Sometimes I'll pay, sometimes I won't...also depends on the lines for whatever item. I always try to have snacks on me in case it's a "Won't" moment. If you don't plan then you really have no one to blame, just as I can't blame the TSA for my milk mistake when I was packing.

 

[The_Jobu]

This thread is becoming far too divisive. Let's talk about something more agreeable.

Oh, I know.

Is it worth it for me to get the Disney Dining Plan™ next trip?

 

[drizgirl]

This thread is becoming far too divisive. Let's talk about something more agreeable.

Oh, I know.

Is it worth it for me to get the Disney Dining Plan™ next trip?

Or politics?

 

[21stamps]

@SorcererMC I don't think you and I are 'debating'. I'm actually agreeing with all that you've said, because I feel the same. What bothers me is when people pretend that they have no other alternatives, they do have an alternative, it's just up to them to actually do it.

Still not seeing the one constant in the equation?

Yes. I will happily wear the crown of being the so called pixie duster in the bunch. Especially if the alternative is a raging Negative Nancy spending money on something that I'm clearly unhappy with. I can't get on that train.

This thread is becoming far too divisive. Let's talk about something more agreeable.

Oh, I know.

Is it worth it for me to get the Disney Dining Plan™ next trip?

I think there's an app for that. Is there? Has anyone made a Dining Plan Calculator app?lol.

 

[matt9112]

So you don't think that Disney, after capturing the "regular" middle class market such as yourself, may not be trying to lure a more upscale customer with the recent offerings? While I don't care for a few of them (such as Tiana's Riverboat party), the vast majority of them affect a regular customer experience not at all. We do a few of them each trip, and find value in them.

Have you ever paid for Hoop-Dee-Doo Revue? That is an upcharge event that has been around for decades. Do you honestly think you're getting anywhere near the amount of food that you are paying for? Or that the show is worth that much? To some, such as us, we are good with it, and pay the money. Others think it isn't worth it, and decide not to go.

As far as snack prices go, well, we don't ever buy them. If someone wants it, they will pay for it. It's really no different than someone buys a Lexus, and someone else buys a Chevy. Both do the same exact thing, but one costs double or more of the other. Some people will bring in their own snacks to eat, and some will pay for the Disney treat. What people choose to spend their hard earned money on is none of our business and we have no right to judge anyone as well.

if i was as rich as some of you sound i would be disgusted by the types of people and the sheer volume of them in the parks....im far from rich so i deal with it.

 

[matt9112]

You really don't want to be on Nantucket during a classic Nor'easter, There is a reason Nantucket was considered a ''hardship" posting for the Lighthouse and Life Saving Services (pre Coast Guard)

never worked on the island but a few times i had to run calls down the cape in the freezing snow ect. glad i moved to Florida...more money and less snow.

 

[matt9112]

Funny how everyone is complaining about $5 ice cream bars
But nobody is complaining about $3 water or, better yet, $4.50 for "smart" water
Personally, $5 ice cream bars help my diet

water is free....its just not covered in a fancy label....soooo

 

[matt9112]

What should I mention? Join you in saying that WDW was horrible and I had a miserable time?
I can't do that, because it isn't true.

I'm sorry that you look at someone who actually enjoyed their vacay as bragging..on a site about WDW vacations- it should be doom and gloom only, right?
The cabana isn't a huge deal.. it's just a pool cabana, I'm sure plenty of people have been in one before. EMM, yes I hope people read my posts and choose to do it.,and I hope that they enjoy it as much as we did.

enjoying something and wanting it to improve do not need to be totally disconnected. i enjoy WDW i have APs for a reason we go often for a reason however as others have said its not the dollar amount that bothers me its the driving force behind it. guest experiences are constantly cut and or removed to cut overhead while the cost of everything increases. at the end of tomorrow you have less (product) for more cost. at least when they redesign a jar of mayo to contain less product the price stays the same. and for the last how many years that have let the place become a zoo much of the year because of crowd problems and they do nothing to alleviate it.

when i make a product better more people in turn buy the product and so on and so fourth. Disney leans on its lifestyle so hard they are able to reduce the quality of the product whilst increasing its cost.

 

[Hakunamatata]

A consumer will determine their value proposition according to the retail mark-up they are willing to pay...eg, does a soft pretzel cost $6 in your local grocery store? Or can one purchase an entire box of soft pretzels? If I make my own pretzel dough (eg in a villa kitchen) and shape it like Mickey, would that cost me $6? That is why people balk at the price...they can roughly estimate the true cost relative to what they are paying, and decide if the price for quality is worth it to them, to eat it in-park or not.

(Personally, in my family we have 'vacation rules' where the normal calculus does not apply, and one is allowed to make an exception for a 'splurge' on an item they really want, within reason of course/ budgeting for impulse add-ons like snacks and souvenirs.)

I apologize. Ive had two too may marghariters to reshpond tomitie.....

 

[NearTheEars]

No, you don't get it. It's not about people buying upsells and then mentioning them on threads and giving their opinions. But there are some posters who use the forums to mention in every thread, their upsell experiences. Again and again and again!

I'd see your point if they personally were starting threads to talk about their latest adventure, but I've yet too see that. Every one has been in response to someone saying they are a waste of money/dangerous business practice. And they offer a counterpoint from their experience. That's how discussions typically work.

 

[21stamps]

I apologize. Ive had two too may marghariters to reshpond tomitie.....

Did you make a pitcher? If so, will you share?

 

[Hakunamatata]

Did you make a pitcher? If so, will you share?

May have been cheeper to buy a pitcher.