Snack price increases?

[21stamps]

Which Marriotts in Orlando are asking $400-$600+ a night like the beach club? None that's the answer. But you can get rooms that are 2.5x the size of that beachclub room for less than the beachclub's lowest rate... and they look like this
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You can compare amenities and features all you want.. but line by line Disney is going to lose in most cases. People are paying for the Disney brand and location.. not because the room is worth a $500+/night hotel.

I think every single person who has ever been to WDW will agree with you on that point. People can admit things are overpriced, yet still pay the price for them. Humans are funny in that way.

Actually research the cost of buying a pretzel at a Disney park because that is your only apples to apples comparison. What is someone who is in a Disney park willing to pay for a pretzel. The cost of said pretzel to the entity turning around and selling it is of no real validity to how much the demand value is.

Logic doesn't exist on this thread.

 

[21stamps]

If you think the comment was about her 1 meal comment... you really need to read more.

You might try terms like... newest, biggest iphone every year.. because.. along with insurance.. because.. or big diamonds.. or paying $200+ for a poolside tent.. or 8 days at Disney's most expensive resort.. or many other spending choices and the justifications behind them. Or you can think it stemmed from one post.. your choice.

I like big diamonds? Awesome . I'm actually not a fine jewelry type of gal..but way to assume. And actually we were only at GF for 6 nights, WL for the last 3. And...I was in not even close to the most expensive room.

 

[drizgirl]

I'm about to just mark this thread as "read" because you folks just keep saying the same thing over and over. So keeping with that trend... If you did rent a car you could pay for that car, for what you have saved in resort costs and meals, easily and have some left over no matter how many Mickey Bars you buy!
Everything we spend and everything we want (our choices) affects how much it costs us and how much a sequestered audience is required to pay for sustenance. Doesn't have to be that way. I have enjoyed WDW on 44 different occasions and have only stayed onsite once. Even then I had a vehicle so I could go offsite and get a good meal for way, way less. So, my point is, anyone that puts themselves in the position of desperation really shouldn't complain about how much it costs.

Yes, I'm fully aware that there are cars available to be rented. The fact is that I don't want to drive on vacation. Nor do I want to grocery shop, nor do I want to pack food to take with me into the parks. Just now how I want to vacation.

 

[21stamps]

Yes, I'm fully aware that there are cars available to be rented. The fact is that I don't want to drive on vacation. Nor do I want to grocery shop, nor do I want to pack food to take with me into the parks. Just now how I want to vacation.

Yes!!!! Finally!! You are the consumer that I have been referencing. You, not just you, "want it all". Yet are somehow surprised that you may pay more for that "all". I have no shame in packing snacks and our water bottles.

 

[NYwdwfan]

I like big diamonds? Awesome . I'm actually not a fine jewelry type of gal..but way to assume. And actually we were only at GF for 6 nights, WL for the last 3. And...I was in not even close to the most expensive room.

So you spent 6 nights at the most expensive resort on property but in not even close to the most expensive room? How sad for you.

 

[flynnibus]

Research used cars next. Specifically after cash for clunkers. It was a pretty big deal in the news when used car prices jumped so dramatically. They were not at all in line with inflation.

Used prices soared because we were in a recession so people were holding onto their cars vs trading in/up. Cash for Clunkers was a program in response to the problem that people were not buying new cars and the audio industry was beat to a pulp by the recession. Retention was the driving factor of reducing inventory. New car sales in 2009 were almost HALF of what they are in 2016.

It's the recession stupid...

 

[21stamps]

Would you stay at a value resort, stop doing any extra upsells or cut your vacation in half like we have?

Seriously, get over yourself. You don't know nearly as much about other people as you think you do.

How was it slumming in that non theme park view room at the Grand Floridian?

No. I would stay offsite. I know plenty of people who stay at values or moderates who could afford RPC at GF. These are open to close park people who don't care as much about the resort as they do about being on property. Nothing wrong with that. I like spending time at the pool and need breaks.

 

[21stamps]

Used prices soared because we were in a recession so people were holding onto their cars vs trading in/up. Cash for Clunkers was a program in response to the problem that people were not buying new cars and the audio industry was beat to a pulp by the recession. Retention was the driving factor of reducing inventory. New car sales in 2009 were almost HALF of what they are in 2016.

It's the recession stupid...

You're completely right. I forgot. You know everything about anything. Cash for Clunkers had no bearing on the used car market at all.

 

[drizgirl]

No. I would stay offsite. I know plenty of people who stay at values or moderates who could afford RPC at GF. These are open to close park people who don't care as much about the resort as they do about being on property. Nothing wrong with that. I like spending time at the pool and need breaks.

So I'll put you down as a "no".

 

[21stamps]

So I'll put you down as a "no".

Since it was the first word in my response.. I'd say that was a safe bet.

I know it sounds weird, but I can justify stupid prices when being on the monorail or walking distance to 2 parks, more than I can justify an overly large property with a long bus line. There's not a right or wrong choice there, just a personal one. Also slides are a must with my kid..so at that point I would spend close to the same amount of money and stay offsite at a hotel with a bigger bed and a pool slide.

I'm sure you'll find a way to make that sound "elitist". Instead of the reality of what's important to different people. There's plenty of nice hotels with great pools offsite, at a very decent price.

 

[drizgirl]

Since it was the first word in my response.. I'd say that was a safe bet.

I know it sounds weird, but I can justify stupid prices when being on the monorail or walking distance to 2 parks, more than I can justify an overly large property with a long bus line. There's not a right or wrong choice there, just a personal one. Also slides are a must with my kid..so at that point I would spend close to the same amount of money and stay offsite at a hotel with a bigger bed and a pool slide.

I'm sure you'll find a way to make that sound "elitist". Instead of the reality of what's important to different people. There's plenty of nice hotels with great pools offsite, at a very decent price.

Elitist? Never. I have no idea why that word would even come up.

 

[21stamps]

Elitist? Never. I have no idea why that word would even come up.

So let me ask you this. Why do you pay for a Disney value when you could stay off property and get more for your money?

Are you smarter than the off site people? Should they be judging you? Or should no one judge anyone bc we all have different things that are important to us?

 

[JenniferS]

Yes!!!! Finally!! You are the consumer that I have been referencing. You, not just you, "want it all". Yet are somehow surprised that you may pay more for that "all". I have no shame in packing snacks and our water bottles.

That was obnoxiously rude - even for you.

 

[Goofyernmost]

Yes, I'm fully aware that there are cars available to be rented. The fact is that I don't want to drive on vacation. Nor do I want to grocery shop, nor do I want to pack food to take with me into the parks. Just now how I want to vacation.

Fine, don't get so defensive, however, those are your choices. Just because your choices happen to be the most expensive ones, shouldn't be cause for complaining, if there are other options available. You made that decision and it is a great decision, now the down side, it costs more. That is all that I was saying.

 

[Bandini]

They rose 24% in the course of one year. Which to me would impact families more than a $5 ice cream. That discussion, 600 pages ago.. was referring to someone saying they haven't noticed huge price increases with anything besides WDW. It is irrelevant now at 600 pages later.

That's funny. New cars rose by 24%, but how much value do they lose once they are driven off the lot? I never buy new and I never finance.

 

[flynnibus]

You're completely right. I forgot. You know everything about anything. Cash for Clunkers had no bearing on the used car market at all.

It's called being informed... vs simply repeating attention grabber 'news' stories that were premature. From the experts (not TV news..)..

For a longer-term perspective, consider the underlying trend in the number of used vehicles retailed relative to the number of vehicles in operation – “churn,” if you will. Like new vehicle sales per household, that ratio has been on a steady decline, but the drops in 2008 and early 2009 were more than normal. The reason for that is simple. The majority of used vehicle demand comes from households that already own a serviceable vehicle – they simply want to trade up to something a little better. But, with financing tight and incomes restrained by the weak labor market, many households found they couldn’t trade up, and, as a result, they didn’t trade at all.

Source: https://www.manheim.com/content_pdfs/products/ManheimConsulting_UCMR-2010.pdf

C4Clunkers accounted for ~660k trade-ins.. by comparison there were approx 36 MILLION used car sales in 2008. (that's less than 2% for the math impaired)...

The used car market inventory is fueled by people buying new cars... when the auto industry hit a generational low in 2008/2009... that had a FAR greater impact on inventory than the blip that was C4Clunkers.

 

[21stamps]

That was obnoxiously rude - even for you.

Rude? Because someone feels they are too good to bring food or water into a park..the same park that they are complaining about food prices in?

If you want everything but not willing to change things to get it, then you have no right to complain. We all make choices. We all, most of us, are willing to give a little.. to take something out of the equation. I'll continue to bring my own water into as many venues that allow me to do so.

 

[drizgirl]

Rude? Because someone feels they are too good to bring food or water into a park..the same park that they are complaining about food prices in?

If you want everything but not willing to change things to get it, then you have no right to complain. We all make choices. We all, most of us, are willing to give a little.. to take something out of the equation. I'll continue to bring my own water into as many venues that allow me to do so.

Too good? I see you are still reading minds.

I had back surgery this year and can't carry a backpack with me in the parks.

But I do find it fascinating that you assumed I thought I was "too good".

Fascinating.

 

[21stamps]

Too good? I see you are still reading minds.

I had back surgery this year and can't carry a backpack with me in the parks.

But I do find it fascinating that you assumed I thought I was "too good".

Fascinating.

Yes. The words "Just not how I want to vacation." must have mislead me a bit.

I am sorry about your back. Hope you're on a good road to recovery.

 

[JenniferS]

Rude? Because someone feels they are too good to bring food or water into a park..the same park that they are complaining about food prices in?

If you want everything but not willing to change things to get it, then you have no right to complain. We all make choices. We all, most of us, are willing to give a little.. to take something out of the equation. I'll continue to bring my own water into as many venues that allow me to do so.

It's all in the presentation, Toots. And quite frankly, yours stinks. You argue with absolutely everybody about everything. And then ... you edit.