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Disone

Well-Known Member
True but the chain of command that it takes to get stuff replaced is a lot. Most of the time Imagineering has to be notified, they have to say they need to be replaced and give the right materials to be replaced, then it has to make it back to Florida. Then Florida has to get the person to do it and find them a couple hours where they can install them. Magic Kingdom is littered with people 24/7. Yes its not as complicated as a task as repainting Big Thunder Mountain but it takes time and isn't a "The signs look like crap, replace them tonight"

ehhh. WDI does not need to be notified as they are just bringing of the posters back to the original install condition. So long as they are not changing the poster, they are good to go. Remember, some times it really take a guest to point out the issue. They are there EVERYDAY, and so while they notice the fading, to them it was gradual and may not be as evident to them as to how bad it really is.

That excuse aside, its bad enough. I would replace for sure.
 
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BernardandBianca

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True but the chain of command that it takes to get stuff replaced is a lot. Most of the time Imagineering has to be notified, they have to say they need to be replaced and give the right materials to be replaced, then it has to make it back to Florida. Then Florida has to get the person to do it and find them a couple hours where they can install them. Magic Kingdom is littered with people 24/7. Yes its not as complicated as a task as repainting Big Thunder Mountain but it takes time and isn't a "The signs look like crap, replace them tonight"

Which is why it costs so much to do anything at WDW. Maybe, just maybe, they ought to streamline the process.
 

Biff215

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They may not warrant there own thread, and I probably should've put it in general discussion but I have noticed that it is a trend. Faded paint isn't as noticeable as faded posters
Fair enough, although I'd have to see more to consider it a trend. While certainly not perfect, in my last 17 years of visiting at least twice a year I can't really say that general maintenance is any worse now.
 

Baloo62

Well-Known Member
I commented about how faded these exact signs looked during our March trip. Some are even worse than the ones shown in the photos.
 

GiveMeTheMusic

Well-Known Member
They did. It was called New fantasyland. :jawdrop:

Storybook Circus is part of New Fantasyland and it's a theme park ghetto. Naked children running around, faded ugly tents and giant posters. BUT OMG THERES PEANUT PRINTS IN THE PAVEMENT BECUZ ITS A CIRCUS WITH ELEPHANTS

Storybook Circus is a failure, and it has no place in the #1 theme park in the world. Wipe it and the speedway off the map with an actual themed land with actual capacity; and we'd be in the 21st century.
 

Andrew C

You know what's funny?
Storybook Circus is part of New Fantasyland and it's a theme park ghetto. Naked children running around, faded ugly tents and giant posters. BUT OMG THERES PEANUT PRINTS IN THE PAVEMENT BECUZ ITS A CIRCUS WITH ELEPHANTS

Storybook Circus is a failure, and it has no place in the #1 theme park in the world. Wipe it and the speedway off the map with an actual themed land with actual capacity; and we'd be in the 21st century.

Lol. Ok.
 

wdisney9000

Truindenashendubapreser
Premium Member
True but the chain of command that it takes to get stuff replaced is a lot. Most of the time Imagineering has to be notified, they have to say they need to be replaced and give the right materials to be replaced, then it has to make it back to Florida. Then Florida has to get the person to do it and find them a couple hours where they can install them. Magic Kingdom is littered with people 24/7. Yes its not as complicated as a task as repainting Big Thunder Mountain but it takes time and isn't a "The signs look like crap, replace them tonight"
Do you work for Disney?

ETA: My question is to ask if you are a Cast Member. I ask since you seem to know what the process is for new posters to be put in place.
 
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wdisney9000

Truindenashendubapreser
Premium Member
Ah, of course, when anyone tries using a rational rebuttal using logic and facts, they're accused of working for Disney.
I was not accusing them of being an online Disney person. I meant if they were a CM. Glad to know that you are eager to defend another grown man though. Ill go rephrase my question so your panties can become un-wadded and you dont get swamp butt. Unless you enjoy that kinda thing
 

Matt_Black

Well-Known Member
I was not accusing them of being an online Disney person. I meant if they were a CM. Glad to know that you are eager to defend another grown man though. Ill go rephrase my question so your panties can become un-wadded and you dont get swamp butt. Unless you enjoy that kinda thing

"I wasn't being sarcastic and snarky, and to prove it, I'll explain so in an incredibly sarcastic and snarky fashion!"
 

EpcotEric01

Active Member
Do you work for Disney?

ETA: My question is to ask if you are a Cast Member. I ask since you seem to know what the process is for new posters to be put in place.
This is basically the same process for any large facility with a large maintenance program. Someone puts in a request, their supervisor determines if its necessary or "value added", then it gets approved by management and so on, eventually it gets approved, and then the signs or "parts" get ordered, and then time has to be allocated to complete the task. Depending on the cost probably depends on the level of management it has to get approved by. Each department has a budget for the fiscal year and they have apply that and any maintenance to that budget. So while we see a faded sign(s), they see thousands of dollars of added cost that they didn't initially account for.
 

wdisney9000

Truindenashendubapreser
Premium Member
This is basically the same process for any large facility with a large maintenance program. Someone puts in a request, their supervisor determines if its necessary or "value added", then it gets approved by management and so on, eventually it gets approved, and then the signs or "parts" get ordered, and then time has to be allocated to complete the task.
If so, thats too many people with a say in a simple task. If it were a big job such as painting Splash Mtn, sure, I could see why the chain of command is needed. But signs such as these should be a simple one-two process. When they designed the diarrhea show of Storybook Circus, they should have realized that certain things such as the tents and signs would fade. A plan (and several backups for the signs) should have been ordered when they had the originals made. They could have even made several different ones for each poster and swapped them out occasionally. If the design of how the posters are held in place takes more than 30 minutes to take it down, then thats their fault for a shoddy system. So any claim of MK being filled with people all day is irrelevant in terms of simply taking down a poster and putting a new one up when the park is closed.

So while we see a faded sign(s), they see thousands of dollars of added cost that they didn't initially account for.
If they didnt initially account for added cost and maintenance of several very large signs and tents that are exposed to the elements ALL DAY, EVERY DAY ..(*/Murray Goldebrg voice*), then they are morons
 

CaptainAmerica

Premium Member
If you've never lived in Florida, you have no idea just how bad the Florida sun is. I bought a Mickey Mouse garden gnome at Flower and Garden one year when I lived down there, and it was faded practically to white within a month.
 

Matt_Black

Well-Known Member
You know, it's easy to offer armchair management advice when you're not involved in running one of the busiest tourist destinations in the world.
 

xdan0920

Think for yourselfer
They don't necessarily have them just lying around, and because of their size, they take a little bit to get made.

They take MINUTES to get made. Literally minutes. I know this for 100% fact. I have seen the printers in action, and a family member is a tech for those giant banner printers. Something little like those banners takes minutes to get done.
 

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