Shoplifting

[NormC]

Agreed. Rude, but not uncalled for.

I would say uncalled for as well unless you were there and have facts to prove Poly Lover was lying. We need to be more courteous to each other. It doesn't cost anything to be nice. We are all guilty of letting one fly now and then though.

 

[Nick Wilde]

I would say uncalled for as well unless you were there and have facts to prove Poly was lying. We need to be more courteous to each other. It doesn't cost anything to be nice. We are all guilty of letting one fly now and then though.

She said she was lying....

 

[LdyApxr]

You know you can blame the lack of maturity of a teenager who is shoplifting. If an adult steals, they really should know better because the cost of the items stolen causes the inventory shortage costs to be passed on to the consumer. That makes me so mad. What makes that person think they have the right to take whatever they want without paying? I am not like that, so I cannot understand it. Do you think he went back to his family and showed him what he bought them? If I see someone stealing at Disney, I am going to try to rat them out, too.

Sorry, I don't agree. I have a 17yr old son and a 26yr old son and maturity has nothing to do with thievery unless the child is 3yrs old and snaggin' a piece of candy off a shelf without knowing they need to pay for it. I will not excuse maturity in a teen for breaking the law. That is what is wrong with the world now. Excuses for bad behavior. My nephew(13 at the time) tried to steal a key chain in DLR when we took him(he had never been, we treated him and his little brother to an all expense paid, no expense spared, once in a lifetime trip including giving him a $50 gift card to spend) and I caught him and that was the end of him going in any store unless he was standing right next to my husband or I. He had money, it was not money he had to ask for and he did it simply to see if he could get away with it. Some people just don't care that they break the law whether they are 13 or 31. And no, I will never take those two nephews anywhere ever again and my family knows why. They make excuses for him too including "He must have just been overwhelmed since he has never been given anything great like that trip" and "He just does not know any better". Then that is a failure of my brother's parenting and not a maturity issue.


Sorry for the rant. You can tell it is close to home.

 

[NormC]

She said she was lying....

When did Poly Lover say HE was lying? Link? Poly Lover only posted three times in this thread and there was no claim of lying in any of them.

 

[LdyApxr]

So unless they actually catch them doing it, it could be harrassment if you question them in or out of the store. I mean if you catch them 2 feet from leaving and you are assuming they have something they stole in their pocket or bag, and they don't would that be harrasement?

Also, in regards to bringing them back in and asking for a receipet would not work in a place like WDW. The same shirt sold in one store could be sold in many. Who is not to say that they did buy it earlier in the day and no longer have the receipt? I would say unless you actually catch the person putting it in a bag or pocket you can't do anything.

When we were in WDW in Jan/Feb my daughter had purchased several small rubber type toys in the parks and carried them with her throughout the trip. So if someone came to use on Thrusday and asked us about a toy she was playing with, we might not have the receipt because it was purchased on Monday. There is no way would could have kept every receipt with us at all times, it would be a huge stack from everything from meals to water mice to toys. It would be crazy. So again, unless you are actually caught in the act, I don't think they could or would do anything.

Does that make sense?

This I understand for a different reason. We were in Monterey for the MotoGP in 2008. Huge race, lots of vendors of all sorts and one of them were selling rider bracelets($80-300 bracelets, not cheap). We were all looking at the bracelets and one of the saleman noticed that my niece was wearing one of their bracelets. A Nicky Hayden bracelet. Since this was his booth, he knew who he sold them to and he looked at her and asked nicely "Where did you get that?" pointing at her wrist and she said "Nicky gave it to my cousin(our son Riley)" and the guy looked a little incredulous(it actually is pretty incredulous but it did happen LOL) and he said "Can I take a look at it?" and she looked at me and my husband because she was getting nervous that he was going to accuse her of stealing, and I said "Go ahead, let him" and he took it, turned it over and said "Are you sure Nicky gave this to you?" at which point I stepped in and said "Yes, he gave it to our son last night at the VIP party" and he said "I only ask because we made 346 bracelets(the fastest kmh Nicky had gone in his Championship year) and Nicky kept only 2, #1 and #69(Nicky's race number) and you have #69". Yes, we have it because Nicky gave it to our son. They were very nice about it but it made my niece(who was 16 at the time) very nervous because she had no proof and there was no way to hunt down a racer during a race weekend to verify her story. After that, they gave her one of the cases for the ones they sell and my husband and I put it away. It now rests in the Trophy case along with other race mementos that our son was given by other racers. LOL

 

[Nick Wilde]

I witnessed 2 kids walking off with perfume from a shop in Epcot, it really bugged me I did not tell the CM but I followed them outside and walked up to the kids and said I work for Disney and I witnessed what you did. I will give you a chance to go in and place it back on the shelf if not I will report the theft. They returned the item and I sad this was your lucky day remember the break you got today next time you may not be so lucky.

When did Poly Lover say HE was lying? Link? Poly Lover only posted three times in this thread and there was no claim of lying in any of them.

 

[thomas998]

When we were at Epcot the other day my husband saw a man come in and shoplift 2 of those t-shirts that are wrapped up tight in plastic in the shape of Mickey ears. It was during Illuminations so everyone was preoccupied and the guy ran in, threw 2 of the shirts in his bag and ran out. My husband was so shocked by it he just stood there dumbfounded for a minute and then told me what he saw. I was like, "um hello, why didn't you say something to the cashier!" He said by the time he realized what was going on the guy was long gone. But it continued to bother my husband for the rest of the night and he kept looking for the guy in all the different gift shops because he wanted to rat him out. He never did see him again.

Anyway, I was just wondering what kind of security they have in the gift shops. Do they have anyone watching TV monitors in a back room somewhere or something? Had my husband told the cashier what he saw would they have ever caught the guy? I was just curious. It seemed like it was really easy for the guy to get away with it.

Ironically, as we were walking out of the store talking about the guy shoplifting we looked down and realized that our toddler had taken a stuffed animal off the shelf when we weren't paying attention and he was playing with it in the stroller! So we quickly ran back into the store and put it back on the shelf. But that just confirmed to me that security isn't very tight in those shops.

I doubt anyone would have done anything even if you had spoken up. I've been in stores where I've seen people doing it and told a cashier only to have them shrug their shoulders and do nothing... Shoot I caught a woman that had broken into my car at a mall, chased her down while my wife phone the cops, all the while she is throwing stuff out of her purse (several of the items were those oversized perfume bottles that they have in department stores) and even when the police get there and arrest her for breaking into my car the do nothing about the items she clearly shop lifted because they didn't witness her doing it.

I'm convinced that stores and Disney don't really care about shoplifters, they simply jack the prices up so at the end of the day they get the profit they want and ignore shoplifters completely.

 

[Laura]

I have never seen anyone shoplift at WDW. However, my little brother stole a map that was for sale at a shop at the KOA in Branson, MO, in the late 1990's.

Hope I never meet that jerk.

 

[Monkee Girl]

It sucks but a lot of times that is the direction the CMs (or any clerk) are given. I worked in a couple retail stores in the mall and was told that if I noticed anything suspicious, you let it go. I wasn't even allowed to say 'are you gonna buy that, or put that back'. It was for our own safety and I guess from causing scenes or preventing the accused from doing anything stupid. We had a budget for the stolen/broken items so I guess it was just a 'let it go' scenario.

However, at Disney, it sucks because it's not like a store you can just walk in and say 'i don't have money, I am gonna steel' like at a mall. The amount of money it takes to go into a park and then steel just shows they are doing it for the thrill and to 'show the man.'

My High School Senior trip was messed up due to a girl caught shop lifting at a store on our last day. We were told during the trip orientation what to expect if anyone was caught. Our Senior advisor was so upset because she planned these trips every year and was on good terms with Disney. It was embarrassing for her and she feared Disney would not want the school back again. All that fear and humiliation because one stupid 17-18 year old punk wanted to see if she could get away with it.

 

[Maelstrom Troll]

What's funny is that we were undercharged got a scarf last trip and we went back to pay for it. The CM told us not to worry about it, it was busy and he didn't want us to have to go to the back of the line. We did see someone get escorted out of the MS apparel shop a couple visits ago by a CM in normal attire. I assume it was due to to shoplifting.

 

[Minnie1986]

Once, when I was a kid, I saw someone shoplift during a parade, and there weren't any CMs around. I knew I was too small to do anything about it, so I screamed as loud as I possibly could to get people's attention; with the number of people that came running, the guy wasn't able to get out of the store before I told them what happened. To thank me, they let me pick whatever I wanted out of the store; I have a Winnie the Pooh stuffed animal that remains bigger than I am to this day.

 

[Minnie1986]

No wonder everything is so expensive. We are paying for all the stolen merchandise.

Exactly.

 

[bristol's mom]

No wonder everything is so expensive. We are paying for all the stolen merchandise.

And, to add insult to injury, we as taxpayers are making it possible for these low-life thieves to be able to afford a trip to Disney via big tax refund checks. You know as well as I do that the "shoplifting type" could never afford a trip to Disney without our subsidizing it. Do away with the subsidy (big tax refunds for those who don't contribute) and you do away with the low-rent behavior and the big crowds. No more having dinner at a signature restaurant being seated next to some toothless imbecile wearing a wife beater and chewing with their mouth open.

 

[Matt_Black]

And, to add insult to injury, we as taxpayers are making it possible for these low-life thieves to be able to afford a trip to Disney via big tax refund checks. You know as well as I do that the "shoplifting type" could never afford a trip to Disney without our subsidizing it. Do away with the subsidy (big tax refunds for those who don't contribute) and you do away with the low-rent behavior and the big crowds. No more having dinner at a signature restaurant being seated next to some toothless imbecile wearing a wife beater and chewing with their mouth open.

Wow. What a disgusting, judgmental, broad generalization. As noted above, bad behavior is not beholden to any particular economic class. Jerks can be rich just as often as they are poor.

 

[wm49rs]

And, to add insult to injury, we as taxpayers are making it possible for these low-life thieves to be able to afford a trip to Disney via big tax refund checks. You know as well as I do that the "shoplifting type" could never afford a trip to Disney without our subsidizing it. Do away with the subsidy (big tax refunds for those who don't contribute) and you do away with the low-rent behavior and the big crowds. No more having dinner at a signature restaurant being seated next to some toothless imbecile wearing a wife beater and chewing with their mouth open.

Wow. What a disgusting, judgmental, broad generalization. As noted above, bad behavior is not beholden to any particular economic class. Jerks can be rich just as often as they are poor.

Unfortunately, this poster is too comfortable with such pathetic statements. With each and every account he's had....

 

[bristol's mom]

Unfortunately, this poster is too comfortable with such pathetic statements. With each and every account he's had....

I have no idea who you are referring to but can't two great minds think alike? This forum is constantly whining about how crowed the parks are and how visitors lack civility and I come up with a solution to resolve this dilemma yet I am the bad girl.

 

[njDizFan]

And, to add insult to injury, we as taxpayers are making it possible for these low-life thieves to be able to afford a trip to Disney via big tax refund checks. You know as well as I do that the "shoplifting type" could never afford a trip to Disney without our subsidizing it. Do away with the subsidy (big tax refunds for those who don't contribute) and you do away with the low-rent behavior and the big crowds. No more having dinner at a signature restaurant being seated next to some toothless imbecile wearing a wife beater and chewing with their mouth open.

Brilliant satire ala Colbert, right? Right!?

 

[Nick Wilde]

And, to add insult to injury, we as taxpayers are making it possible for these low-life thieves to be able to afford a trip to Disney via big tax refund checks. You know as well as I do that the "shoplifting type" could never afford a trip to Disney without our subsidizing it. Do away with the subsidy (big tax refunds for those who don't contribute) and you do away with the low-rent behavior and the big crowds. No more having dinner at a signature restaurant being seated next to some toothless imbecile wearing a wife beater and chewing with their mouth open.

Gr8 b8 m8

 

[wm49rs]

I have no idea who you are referring to but can't two great minds think alike? This forum is constantly whining about how crowed the parks are and how visitors lack civility and I come up with a solution to resolve this dilemma yet I am the bad girl.

No, just the same judgmental prat, hiding behind an avatar with a skirt this time around....

 

[BuddyThomas]

I wondered when someone would catch that. I meant 5 figures as in $10k or more in a tax refund when paying very little in taxes. It happens and the first thing they do is book a trip to Disney. You want to see the crowd levels and low-rent behavior decrease, change our progressive tax system.

What is the matter with you? This is not the place for your classist troll posts. Go start fights on some political board about all that. You are quickly proving yourself to be a real piece of work, Madame.